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5arge
7:57:33 PM
2/14/06

Hey everyone! Look! It's a castrated torll!
Sarge
8:05:19 PM
2/14/06

I was kinda surprised the Shakespeare quote wasn't here somewhere, *VBG*.... You know.... Chili's fave...



ALL
God save your majesty!

CADE
I thank you, good people: there shall be no money;
all shall eat and drink on my score; and I will
apparel them all in one livery, that they may agree
like brothers and worship me their lord.

DICK
The first thing we do, let's kill all the lawyers.

(Henry VI, part 2, Act IV, Scene II)



Many people forget it was DICK who delivered that line ----- LMAO
Tilt
8:06:59 PM
2/14/06

Wow, the guy Cheney shot had what they called a minor heart attack today (Tuesday).

Cheney got bagged too, for not having a license to shoot or something like that. I would guess it's a yearly hunting license they are talking about. I was not in all day and only caught part of the news.
lipstick hiker
8:24:49 PM
2/14/06

when you dig further, lipstick hiker, you realize he really just had a fibrillation - something people have everyday - but it's too bad the shot is in his body causing potential damage. Hopefully he'll recover quickly and painlessly.

and, the license thing ... from what I understand they asked what licenses they needed, paid for them - yet, they didn't say he needed that one at the time. It's not like he tried to get out of paying 7 bucks.
Sarge
8:27:53 PM
2/14/06

Not to mix metaphors... but If he croaks, Dick has a tough row to hoe.
Tilt
8:28:51 PM
2/14/06

You almost sound hopeful.
Sarge
8:32:29 PM
2/14/06

God I take a few hours off to catch up on Registry Recert hours...and look what happens.
Lets get some facts straight...Kennedy WAS NEVER FULLY INVESTIGATED. It disappeared, but that was a different time and a different place.
Do we remember the assault at the Kennedy Compound. Now Granted the girl did admit to making the Beast with TWO Backs twice in 30 minutes (remember the commercial coming out of that part of testimony? It was the Energizer Bunny (LOL))but there were some very disturbing facts with the case.
As long as we operated on the same field I agree, but lets look at one President who when faced with the slight possibility of Impeachment RESIGNED, he was told by his party leadership to resign.
The next President WAS IMPEACHED, he did not resign.....
XL400236
8:54:42 PM
2/14/06

LOL XL ... the way you came in you reminded me of ...

Sarge
8:57:42 PM
2/14/06

Sarge, this is why I try and stay out of political debates. I never know what the real story is:)
lipstick hiker
9:56:56 PM
2/14/06

Sarge, this is why I try and stay out of political debates. I never know what the real story is:)
lipstick hiker
9:56:56 PM
2/14/06


ahhhhhh, the perfect republican.
Buddha Bear
4:33:59 AM
2/15/06

The comparison to Kennedy is interesting tho'.... It appears that Cheney had to chill out for a day... consult lawyers... get his story straight... just like Teddy did.”
Tilt
5:56:48 PM
2/14/06

Good point Tilt, the only real difference is that the attorney got immediate medical care and wasn't left to die. Sure it is exactly the same.

I think it is funny that the press is stewing, because Cheney snubs them. Meanwhile the media completely ignores that Al Gore was paid to speak this weekened in Saudi Arabia at a seminar paid for by the bin Ladin group.

Al Gore made allegations of Arab abuse in the United States that he will not substantiate. No news there.

Liberals can't define the line, between we hate Bush and we hate America.
bacpac
5:42:34 AM
2/15/06

It's true lipstick hiker, especially if you rely on the liberal media for your news.

Take the Washington Post for example.

Here's the headline: 325,000 Names on Terrorism List, Rights Groups Say Database May Include Innocent People

If you read a little further you realize it's 325,000 names, but not people: "Because the same person may appear under different spellings or aliases, the true number of people is estimated to be more than 200,000, according to NCTC officials."

If you read a little further, you realize only a percentage of them are even Americans: "U.S. citizens make up "only a very, very small fraction" of that number, said an administration official, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because of his agency's policies."

Yet, they sprinkle throughout the article unrelated tidbits of information to confuse the casual reader into what is really happening: "The NSA is a key provider of information for the NCTC database, although officials refused to say how many names on the list are linked to the agency's controversial domestic eavesdropping effort. Under the program, the NSA has conducted wiretaps on an unknown number of U.S. citizens without warrants."

And that's an article that at least attempts to sneak the real facts in there, although in a misleading way. Most only give one side of the story. They're trying to make you think up front that the Bush admin is violating our civil rights here in America, but really it's a database that is much needed.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/02/14/AR2006021402125.html
Sarge
5:56:46 AM
2/15/06

Good urn Sarge! And while we are talking about violations of personal rights...there was a President who had something like 500 FBI files he was not allowed to have (they were on opposing political candidates) and when they went to find out who took them it was the White House Security Director (or something like that) who NO ONE COULD REMEMBER HIRING?????? WHATS THAT ALL ABOUT I ASK???
XL400236
8:38:20 AM
2/15/06

Geobeet
10:27:19 AM
2/15/06

and, the license thing ... from what I understand they asked what licenses they needed, paid for them - yet, they didn't say he needed that one at the time. It's not like he tried to get out of paying 7 bucks.”
Sarge

Every time I've tried to use ignorance of the law as a defense, it failed.
le Subtil
10:38:53 AM
2/15/06

le Subtil - They didn't "claim" ignorance of the law to get out of paying the 7 dollars. They paid the money. I am the one that brought it up to say they asked the law and the people issuing the license didn't mention it. So, what was your point again?
Sarge
11:26:38 AM
2/15/06

Point is, they didn't pay until they were caught. You seem to be excusing their not buying one initially because they didn't know they needed one. Ignorance of the law.

You or I probably would have been fined.
le Subtil
11:40:17 AM
2/15/06

I had some fun with a couple of “liberals” in the office today.

They were having a great time laughing and making up songs about Whittington getting shot. They were really excited about having a “gottcha” on that other party.

So I stopped by and said, “Yep, there’s nothing quite so funny as someone getting shot.”

…dead silence.


I would have asked when the next meeting of sociopaths anonymous was, but I I took a little pity on their sick twisted souls.

Besides, anyone who is that unaware of their own sick emotions doesn’t want help.
arclite
12:00:34 PM
2/15/06

Le Subtil, " They didn't pay until they were caught.",isn't that like the Income tax system?
letsgetKRUNKdawg
12:06:36 PM
2/15/06

Hee Hee Hee....ol' arclite is just plain evil. ;-)

I'm about to go paddlecrazy, arc....it's going to be up into the 70s this weekend.
I may just have to drag the yak out!
StoveStomper
12:06:54 PM
2/15/06

Violin
12:56:34 PM
2/15/06

Sarge, surveys are another source of misinformation. People will say anything. It depends what the questions are and if the person cares how they appear to the person asking the questions or how annonymous the answers will be.

Buddha, if you mean republicans are realistic and honest, then I take that as a compliment! Thank you:)

Talk show yentas are all yaking about how Cheney should hold what amounts to a press conference about this shooting. I think it's a personal event in his life and where he may want to let the public know what happened, he doesn't have to stand before the press or public and talk more about what we already know. I really don't need to hear Cheney tell the story about what happened. It's over and done with, at least the shooting point. The health issues with the man that was shot still continues.
lipstick hiker
1:08:21 PM
2/15/06

Okay, everyone can chill out. Cheney is going to be on tv later this afternoon, so everyone can tune in and pick apart everything he says.
lipstick hiker
1:15:32 PM
2/15/06

Had he accidentally shot his own son while hunting, which by the way could happen, this whole thing would be different.

On the other hand, had his own son shot HIM, then that, too would be a whole nuther story.

So, after typing this, I guess it just depends on who shoots who and if there was a permit before or after.
Wolfeyes
1:19:37 PM
2/15/06

So I stopped by and said, “Yep, there’s nothing quite so funny as someone getting shot.”

Exactamondo Fonzy!
Nigal
1:21:59 PM
2/15/06


Well, I think a lot of hunters have some beers to pass the time while they wait in sometimes very cold temps for their prey, but is that against the law?

A few days ago, a reporter asked a dumb question which was, "What if the vice president killed the man"? What is the point of asking a question about something that didn't happen? That was also a wasted question on her part, not very good journalism.
lipstick hiker
1:45:52 PM
2/15/06

"Well, I think a lot of hunters have some beers to pass the time while they wait in sometimes very cold temps for their prey, but is that against the law?"

Drinking while hunting is illegal in most if not all states. Bad idea reagrdless of amount consumed.
birch
3:08:40 PM
2/15/06

birch, good point, drinking good, drinking while hunting, bad, even if it wasn't against the law!
lipstick hiker
5:43:43 PM
2/15/06

What about drinking 1 beer hours before a hunt? Is that bad? That would put his blood alcohol somewhere around 0.000%
Sarge
7:08:04 PM
2/15/06

Sarge, I don't know if that was a serious question, but if Dick is taking meds that make him drowsy after an alcoholic beverage, then perhaps one beer is one too many and even certain medications are not to be taken if you are driving "or operating heavy duty machinery", lol:)

Perhaps some meds should include "do not attempt to use a firearm if you are taking this medication or at least wait to see what the effects may be".
lipstick hiker
7:12:44 PM
2/15/06

What med is he taking that you know of?
Sarge
7:14:26 PM
2/15/06

sarge
http://www.nrahq.org/education/guide.asp

Know your target and what is beyond.
Be absolutely sure you have identified your target beyond any doubt. Equally important, be aware of the area beyond your target.
This means observing your prospective area of fire before you shoot. Never fire in a direction in which there are people or any other potential for mishap. Think first. Shoot second.

Never use alcohol or over-the-counter, prescription or other drugs before or while shooting.
Alcohol, as well as any other substance likely to impair normal mental or physical bodily functions, must not be used before or while handling or shooting guns.
birch
7:14:36 PM
2/15/06

of course the Army teaches the same regarding alcohol too...
birch
7:17:05 PM
2/15/06

Sarge, I don't know, but he may be taking something for his heart condition. I'm not trying to hang the guy. I was just bringing up a point in general. Doesn't everyone now and again pop a Tylenol PM, drink some wine, then decide to go out for a drive to get a snack, LMAO!!!!:)
lipstick hiker
7:18:27 PM
2/15/06

birch, maybe just the name Quail was enough to send him into a shooting frenzy, lol:) If he were hunting for a Howard Dean, he may have taken his friend's head right off, lol:)
lipstick hiker
7:21:25 PM
2/15/06

birch, maybe just the name Quail was enough to send him into a shooting frenzy, lol:) If he were hunting for a Howard Dean, he may have taken his friend's head right off, lol:)
lipstick hiker
7:21:26 PM
2/15/06

I never drink and drive.
bearmagnet
7:26:49 PM
2/15/06

birch - obviously there is a limit depending on the amount of alcohol or the type of drug, etc. Otherwise, 99% of people should never hunt under those conditions. The questions are (1) what drug?, and (2) what was the BO level.
Sarge
7:46:22 PM
2/15/06

I swear. I only had ONE BEER!
so il hiker
7:51:45 PM
2/15/06

Buck
10:59:36 AM
2/16/06

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20060216/D8FQDTIOQ.html

No charges.
Like there ever was any reason for any.
StoveStomper
3:40:20 PM
2/16/06

Pick a Spin ... Any Spin
a) That's because Karl Rove and his Kronies threatened the cops!

b) It's the Good 'ole Boys network!

c) Would you press charges against THIS administration? Not if you valued your life!

d) This just proves that there never were WMDs in Iraq.

e) Got no explanation yet, but CBS will find something soon enough, I tell ya! You just wait 'n see.
last edited: 2/16/06 3:57:00 PM
Sarge
3:50:15 PM
2/16/06

Kenedy County has 414 inhabitants. The Armstrong ranch is 50,000 acres. Think they have any pull on the Sheriff's Dept.?
last edited: 2/16/06 3:54:28 PM
Violin
3:53:10 PM
2/16/06

That would be (b) for Violin.
Sarge
3:54:49 PM
2/16/06

why would they prosecute? I cant recall ever hearing of a prosecution for a hunting accident.
birch
6:34:44 PM
2/16/06

Had Whittington died, Cheney would be prosecuted for involuntary manslaughter. He probably would never have served a day in jail though. It looks like the guy will live this story will be old news in two weeks.
Bateauxdriver
7:50:53 PM
2/16/06

Karma Unleashed!
lonesurveyor
7:57:15 PM
2/16/06

Be realistic. We will never really know what happened. The only thing Cheney did by talking about the accident on tv was to give the democrats something to sift through just incase they find out that his story was false. If he offered no story, there would not be anyone looking any further into it. Now that he spoke, people will want to probe. Believe me, no secret service agent will "tell" on the vice president. I'm sure they have all been briefed about the situation whether it was just an innocent accident or carelessness from drinking or anything else.

I don't think he ever addressed whether he was drinking or not and if his friend does not want to come forward and "report" him, then it's no ones business but theirs. We all make mistakes, even the vice president.
lipstick hiker
7:58:10 PM
2/16/06

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