I'm in really big trouble...

“Shut up Ewker.......
LOL...hugs......”

“I appreciate that Pinkbubelz, and I will try my hardest to take in that advice, and the advice that everyone has given me. And I should have known that posting here was like posting to my family. And for my parents, they will not get in trouble. For anyone thinking that my parents have neglected me, well they are really incredible parents. They were the ones who said that if I show desire, they'll show me a plane ticket to Nepal. They've supported me in everything, they've been the most trustful and honest people I have ever known, and it was my choice to go to that party, not my parents.

~ By the way, I did go to school today. I live in New Hampshire, and my school get's out at 2:15.”

“I for one am rooting for you and that mountain :)”

“So am I... Well i'm not planning on climbing it just yet... but next summer I will be on it, just not the top. I'll climb the damn thing later when I've got about $60,000...”

“They were the ones who said that if I show desire, they'll show me a plane ticket to Nepal. They've supported me in everything, they've been the most trustful and honest people I have ever known, and it was my choice to go to that party, not my parents.”

“Jaynewallll,

I work with students all of the time, and am glad to hear you are willing to try harder to stay on the better path towards your goals. Be true to your dreams and make them a reality!
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“"Who can tell me what happens now?”

You admit your guilt and take your punishment.”

“Well what do you mean... for the actual crime I commited or for something dealing with trail talk... For the actual court itself the officer and I settled with AA meetings and 20 hours of community service. So I don't even have to attend court.”

“Sorry, I posted before reading this whole thread. Look, you are 16 now and nearly an adult. The habits you form now will be with you for years. It's real easy for us to sit here, having been through it before, and tell you to get new friends. Haha! 16 year olds don't switch friends. Learn from this and do the right thing next time. You just might be a good enfluence on your friends in this way also.

Good luck.”

“Are you Jay Newall or Jayne Wall if you care to say?”

“Was the bathroom on the 2nd floor or in the basement? Did you think about the diving out the f-ckin' WINDOW? or hiding in the shower or closet? Anything but walking out to face the music.”

“When you're 12-24, sometimes there is no tomorrow, only the fear of the consequences of yesterday and the life of now. But I'd say:

Dump your alcoholic friends (do they hike, do they climb mountains, what's on their agenda, what's on your agenda) and take care of your health NOW even despite and over your parents allowances.
Perhaps you don't want to live with the morals you find all around you, but if you regularly drink and smoke you'll likely never find the morals that are really YOU. You will remain where you are: lost inside of the search, contantly searching and -- perhaps drunk.

Act kindly to TT'ers and you might just make some of the best friends you'll ever have. I miss my hikers all the time.

You should get through the legal stuff o.k. this time, but the stuff you may be feeling might be guilt, and the emotion's there to help you stop acting as you seem to have been acting.

Insert 2 pennies , please :)

I respectfully disagree with CMB.
What was once done BECAUSE it was done before is not neccessarily what SHOULD be done in future. Normative ethics is not the same as relative moral values, although in the post-modern West, we often take them to be on equal footing with one another.”

“hahaha... yes I did think about diving out the window until I saw two flashlights heading towards the door which was about three feet from my window. And yes i did think about hiding in the shower... luckily I didn't because as we waited in the kitchen over 30 kids went into the bathroom to do whatever they were doing. I happened to make use of my bathroom time by shoveling water down my throat and drinking as much cranberry juice as i can. Guess it didn't bring me down to a 0.00 though.


By the way it's Jay Newall. I'm a guy.

And I've listened to people tell me to drop the friends that drink... but looking at my highschool... there isn't many people who don't occasionally drink. And I don't think I could ever drop some of the best friends i've ever had over alcohol...”

“Hey, there's always this guy you can hang with. He doesn't drink, doesn't smoke, doesn't know any girls and has a 34th level fighter on World of Warhammer. Ya won't get laid hanging out with him but ya won't get arrested either. LOL!

”

“Nigals self portrait! :D










JK”

“Many of them will leave YOU.”

“How about something simple, Jayne?

Say you are sorry. Mean it.
Then find ON YOUR INITIATIVE community service to do in New Hampshire before
the courts order it.

You brought dishonor to your family who, are, by your own words, "incredible parents".

You can mend this but it will take humility, time and the ACTIONs by you over a long time to bring you "success".

Thank God you WERE raided.

Otherwise, some alcohol laden CHUMP might have offered you a ride home in his car
crashed and killed you.

Take this image with you:

White coats all around as a sheet is pulled back with your dead body underneath.

Now, take a moment to "see" the horror on your parents's faces. Their child in which they have invested half their lifetimes is dead.

For NO good reason.

"Ask not what your country can do for you."
"Ask what you can do for your country."
JFK

Substitute the word family for country.

Good luck, kid.

If your grades are good, look at USNA* if you want to find a good school for college. If you hang tough for nine years, it will not cost your parents a dime and you WILL learn

Honor, Respect, Discipline.

USNA*=United States Naval Academy”

“So how many of the people here preeching were quite as d... I mean responsible as they seem to be preeching when they were 16. Just interested is all?”

“Not me! I was a Bad *ss that had to learn everything the hard way. If I had my time back, I would have done things much differently. If the "Preachers" on TT can save him from even one hard learned lesson, then I say that's a good thing.”

“But it depends what he's doing. Having a few drinks is one thing, worse than that then there could be a problem.
I'm a firm believer that when you get into your late teens you have to learn these lessons yourself.”

“....so if he kills himself or someone else driving drunk, he's learned a lesson? What's wrong with advice regardless of what we did when we were young? Teenagers don't "have a few drinks." I was NOT responsible and I WAS dumb when I was that age. When I look back at some of the things I did that were alcohol related, I consider myself extrememly lucky to be alive today and fortunate that I didn't kill someone else.
Damn right I'm going to try to prevent a lesson being learned the hard way---it doesn't have to happen.”

“Well ok NonConformist, you gotta point. I guess I just think the whole puritanical approach doesn't work (not saying yours was that approach). I think teaching kids to be responsible around drink is by far the best approach - even then, in the main, they have to learn their own lessons. But I guess that doesn't mean we should stop trying.”

“I never denied that I wasn't a bad ass...I think I even stated that I've made my mistakes. ...NOW...you all know that in Germany the alcohol issue isn't as strict, so I do have a slight advantage.

I can think of 5 of my closest friends right now who have died of drug overdoses or who have killed themself driving drunk. If I think real hard, I betcha I can add a couple to that list. soooo....uhm...you decide.

I could turn this around and ask...
how many of the posters who posted "rock on while you can" are parents? Meaning...how many do have kids and are activly involved in their kids life? I betcha becoming a parent will change anyone's mind. At least I hope so.
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“Okay, as of now there's 123 posts, each worth 2 cents. The bill is adding up quickly. Pretty soon you might be out, oh, 5 bucks.”

“Yep, when I was young I did a lot of heavy drinking, smoked a lot of pot, etc...but if there was one thing I knew was to not gte busted. I didn't go to parties, or drink in parks! In fact, I saved my heaviest drinking for college!
But I can also say that I have seen friends die over the years due to drug use. There IS a reason I have been clean for almost a decade.
Worse is some ways is watching friends that never changed as adults-that in their early 30's still act like they are 22.
Thing is if you want to do dumb things you either need to learn how to NOT get in trouble or to not do it.
Will I be honest with my son? Yes. Will I crack his butt if he brings shame upon my home? Oh yes.”

“I'm not a big fan of AA as a punishment. Isn't one of the first steps to admit that you are an addict? Most people who are compelled to go into some kind of treatment aren't going because they feel that the substance has taken on a bad role in their lives. I doubt that Jay has a drinking problem so an AA meeting is just sleepwalking unless he is one of those rare people who can actually learn from other people's mistakes.

That said, he is clearly not making the best choices especially seeing as how this is the second time he has been caught. I'm willing to bet that it isn't just the second time he has been drinking. Sounds like a good time to redirect his energy. I know that it is hard to take advice from adults but these TT'ers come from all walks of life and have experienced everything you have and more. Chances are they have a few nuggets of wisdom you could learn from.”

“Y2's right man. Don't make our young people follow laws and stuff. Just let 'em go so that way when they do finally leave home they REALLY get their asses kicked by life.

I hate sound like my grandad but kids today are soft and spoiled. And it's because people like Y2 are breading them that way.”

“When you bread them that way do you then fry or bake them?”

“Coughcoughfukyoucoughcough!

:)”

“LMAO....my first morning laugh,...LOL..hahahahahahhahaha”