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The Big Bang Theory
This is an intersting article about the big bang theory and parallel universes:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/science/horizon/2001/paralleluni.shtml
lipstick hiker
11:25:26 AM
9/19/05

story
Here is the article for that link, but it's easier to read if you use the link.


Parallel Universes
BBC Two 9.00pm Thursday 14 February 2002


Everything you're about to read here seems impossible and insane, beyond science fiction. Yet it's all true.

Scientists now believe there may really be a parallel universe - in fact, there may be an infinite number of parallel universes, and we just happen to live in one of them. These other universes contain space, time and strange forms of exotic matter. Some of them may even contain you, in a slightly different form. Astonishingly, scientists believe that these parallel universes exist less than one millimetre away from us. In fact, our gravity is just a weak signal leaking out of another universe into ours.

The same but different

For years parallel universes were a staple of the Twilight Zone. Science fiction writers loved to speculate on the possible other universes which might exist. In one, they said, Elvis Presley might still be alive or in another the British Empire might still be going strong. Serious scientists dismissed all this speculation as absurd. But now it seems the speculation wasn't absurd enough. Parallel universes really do exist and they are much stranger than even the science fiction writers dared to imagine.

Greater dimensions

It all started when superstring theory, hyperspace and dark matter made physicists realise that the three dimensions we thought described the Universe weren't enough. There are actually 11 dimensions. By the time they had finished they'd come to the conclusion that our Universe is just one bubble among an infinite number of membranous bubbles which ripple as they wobble through the eleventh dimension.

A creative touch

Now imagine what might happen if two such bubble universes touched. Neil Turok from Cambridge, Burt Ovrut from the University of Pennsylvania and Paul Steinhardt from Princeton believe that has happened. The result? A very big bang indeed and a new universe was born - our Universe. The idea has shocked the scientific community; it turns the conventional Big Bang theory on its head. It may well be that the Big Bang wasn't really the beginning of everything after all. Time and space all existed before it. In fact Big Bangs may happen all the time.

Of course this extraordinary story about the origin of our Universe has one alarming implication. If a collision started our Universe, could it happen again? Anything is possible in this extra-dimensional cosmos. Perhaps out there in space there is another universe heading directly towards us - it may only be a matter of time before we collide.


Michio Kaku went online to chat about parallel universes. Read his answers to your questions in the BBCi Space site.


Princeton University - Prof Paul Steinhardt
http://feynman.princeton.edu/~steinh/

Dr Michio Kaku
www.mkaku.org

Superstring phenomenology and the brane-world
http://fisica.usac.edu.gt/public/curccaf_proc/quevedo1/

Hyperspace: a scientific odyssey through parallel universes, time warps and the tenth dimension
Michio Kaku

The Elegant Universe: superstrings, hidden dimensions and the quest for the ultimate theory
Brian Greene

Parallel Universes: the search for other worlds
Fred Alan Wolf

The Universe in a Nutshell
Stephen Hawking

Flatland: a romance of many dimensions
Edwin Abbott Abbott, Kendahl J Jubb. 19th century fiction, first published in 1884.
lipstick hiker
11:28:10 AM
9/19/05

Flatland: a romance of many dimensions
Edwin Abbott Abbott, Kendahl J Jubb. 19th century fiction, first published in 1884.


This is one of my favorite math-related books of all time. I highly recommend it. Most of you will swear I am nuts, however, if you follow up on my recommendation. :)
pitts
11:30:38 AM
9/19/05

The subject gets pretty good treatment in both of Brian Greene's books.
Bison
11:38:28 AM
9/19/05

What I want to know is do we have goatees in these other universes and if I have a goatee in this one does that mean my counterpart does not? And how does this effect me here. Isn't the goatee version always the evil one?
Nigal
11:40:00 AM
9/19/05

If I shave my goatee, does that mean that my evil twin in the other universe has to grow one?
bitpusher
11:40:55 AM
9/19/05

Only if there is a freak transporter accident where you switch places with your evil twin.
pitts
11:42:19 AM
9/19/05

Nigal, that was hella-lame. I suppose you have a pet goldfish that kills people too?
Nonconformist
12:00:41 PM
9/19/05

No, but I do have a pony that's gonna bite off your whiener now. >:>
Nigal
12:01:37 PM
9/19/05

We'll see about that right after the chili contest. Do you like your chili, Nigal?
Nonconformist
12:08:18 PM
9/19/05

Uhoh...I better give my parents a call.
Nigal
12:11:38 PM
9/19/05

I've heard of dopplegangers. I think that is the German word for having an exact look alike in the same universe on earth. All I can say is my doppleganger has to lose weight and hike more, lol:)
lipstick hiker
12:13:09 PM
9/19/05

A doppleganger is a creature that can assume the form of others. It's not really an opposition form. They're more like a bogert.
Nigal
12:15:36 PM
9/19/05

Maybe in a parallel universe it's only the goats that have goatees.
MarkO
12:26:20 PM
9/19/05

The parallel universe is supposed potentially have different looking species which is what may happen to you if you go into the black hole which kind of squishes things that enter it.

Nigal, okay, you made me look up doppleganger and it does say it is a person who looks exactly like you. Check out this site; it's interesting:

http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/viewarticle.php?id=201
lipstick hiker
2:06:44 PM
9/19/05

Multiverse ... worth reading about if you are interested in such stuff.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiverse
pitts
2:16:15 PM
9/19/05

pitts, yes, it's a very interesting site. Now can you have a scientist come over and explain it all to me, lol:)
lipstick hiker
2:20:48 PM
9/19/05

First you need the magic decoder ring they all get when they graduate. Mine is broken.
pitts
2:45:12 PM
9/19/05

pitts, you can't get those decoder rings anymore. Now Cracker Jacks only gives you those crappy tattoo prizes!!!lol:) Oh, what happened to the old days when you got real prizes???
lipstick hiker
2:48:01 PM
9/19/05

Early in the 1970's a SECRET SPACE MISSION was launched to the other side of the sun, where a TWIN to the planet Earth was found. The astronauts crashlanded on this planet and were PUT ON TRIAL by the denizens of this ALTERNATE WORLD for the crime of ABANDONING THEIR MISSION. They convinced the RULERS of that world to allow them to return to their spacecraft and attempt to come HOME. But the attempt was UNSUCCESSFUL and they crashed again, this time DESTROYING the other Earth's spaceport.

MEANWHILE, back on our Earth, the monolithic MEDIA CONTROLLED BY THE FREE MARKET has suppressed this information. What was once COMMON KNOWLEDGE has been BANNED FROM VIEW. And now NO ONE but I know the TRUTH.
Marvin Gardens
2:52:32 PM
9/19/05

Jatravartids are small blue creatures of planet Viltvodle VI with more than fifty arms each. They are therefore unique in being the only race in history to have invented aerosol deodorant before the wheel.

Many races believe that the Universe was created by some sort of god or in the Big Bang. The Jatravartid people, however, believe that the Universe was sneezed out of the nose of a being called the Great Green Arkleseizure. They live in perpetual fear of the time they call The Coming of the Great White Handkerchief. Theory of the Great Green Arkleseizure is not widely accepted outside Viltvodle VI.
pitts
2:56:32 PM
9/19/05

QUIT STEALING MY MATERIAL, NUTCASE WANKER!

http://www.thebackpacker.com/trailtalk/thread/13814,-1.php
Marvim Garden
3:04:30 PM
9/19/05

Your moon is AN ARTIFICIAL satellite - a titanium sphere COVERED WITH DEBRIS from the Asteroid Belt to form its crust. It is BEING USED as a temporary balancing agent until the two natural moons are replaced and Earth is restored to a fully conscious state. MOONSEEDS ARE BEING PREPARED NOW by Galactic Federation scientists with the help of Earth's Elohim (planetary guardians). These seeds will grow into 'NEW' MOONS TO REPLACE the ones we once had.
Marvin Gardens
3:12:05 PM
9/19/05

If Marvin sez it, it must be so.
Geobeet
3:18:12 PM
9/19/05

This vast artificial ORB WAS CREATED, originally, to be the PROTECTOR of the planet you call 'Maldek'. Today, Maldek is just an asteroid belt that exists between Mars and Jupiter. In former times, it was an Earth-like world nearly 29,000 miles (46,690 kilometers) in diameter, which, for OVER ONE MILLION YEARS, served as the dark Anchara Alliance's headquarters. Galactic Federation FORCES LATER destroyed this planet, in order to RE-COLONIZE your solar system. Much later, forces loyal to Atlantis put your Moon in its present position in order to ATTACK AND DESTROY LEMURIA.
Marvin Gardens
3:25:44 PM
9/19/05

MALDEK!

I knew I had read this somewhere before!
pitts
3:29:01 PM
9/19/05

Your Moon is an ARTIFICIAL CONSTRUCT that was created to be a special tactical station ATTACHED TO Orion Empire fleets of the former Anchara Alliance. It formed part of the fleet that conquered your solar system about 1,000,000 years ago. The Moon's purpose was to be the MAIN DEFENSE COORDINATOR for the former planet that was between Mars and Jupiter. When we came to liberate your solar system about 900,000 years ago, this planet AND ITS ARMED moon were a major threat to our success. Our incoming fleet DEPLOYED a powerful battle planet of its own to destroy this Anchara/Orion Empire base. It was REDUCED TO RUBBLE and the result was the Asteroid Belt.
Marvin Gardens
3:31:24 PM
9/19/05

Geo, notice the spelling Marvim and Marvin

is there 2??
Ewker
3:45:02 PM
9/19/05

Marvim WEARS a goatee.
Marvin Gardens
3:50:44 PM
9/19/05

Sheldan Nidle does not wear a goatee, so I am betting Marvin Gardens does...

Selamat Ja!
pitts
4:03:03 PM
9/19/05

Yeah Ewk, my money's on Marvin, not Marvim.
Geobeet
4:17:31 PM
9/19/05

Hey, I thought that this was the evil paralell universe!
tahoe
4:43:59 PM
9/19/05

Parallel folks, parallel.
Geobeet
5:16:23 PM
9/19/05

The Quantum Physics of relationships...

In one reality your wrong.
In another reality she's right.
mtnsteve
5:30:20 PM
9/19/05

Actually, mtnsteve, I don't think you have that right ... at least in my universe it's:

In one reality your wrong
In both realities she's right.
pitts
6:41:12 PM
9/19/05

marvin is my hero :) sigh.....my heart throbs!
Spirit Coyote
7:36:12 PM
9/19/05

I think that there's an alternate reality out there somewhere where he's actually right. And maybe with a little luck, we may find it someday...
PhantomSoul
7:53:30 PM
9/19/05

Where's the alternate reality where I win the lottery?
Leofric1
7:55:06 PM
9/19/05

Thats the one where your right...unfortunately, you can't get there from here.
last edited: 9/19/05 8:03:02 PM
mtnsteve
8:02:19 PM
9/19/05

Is there a parallel universe that has a tt forum where everyone gets along? That would suck. We must be living in the good universe if there is an evil one.
lipstick hiker
9:41:56 PM
9/19/05

Black holes don't squish things. They rip them apart by tidal force.
USA
9:47:23 PM
9/19/05

Your Moon is a unique construction. Before it sustained SEVERE BATTLE DAMAGE, it had a thick, Earth-like atmosphere and several oceans and seas. Scattered across these seas were many small landmasses where reptilian and DINOSAURIAN ENGINEERS created an eco-system similar to ones found on moons in any human-stewarded solar system. The aim behind this terra-forming was to disguise the true purpose of this sphere: beneath this veneer, the Anchara Alliance had constructed a metallic globe out of a special TITANIUM ALLOY whose special properties could not only greatly magnify the CLOAKING SHIELD around the main weapons and control stations found in its core, but also maintain the illusion of the Moon as a benign and quite natural satellite. Its interior housed 16 levels containing laboratories, control centers, and 24 MAJOR WEAPONS STATIONS. When the Galactic Federation battle planet blasted the Anchara headquarters, this 'moon' fired upon and caused MAJOR DAMAGE to our battle planet. In the ensuing retaliation, this battle moon was SEVERELY DAMAGED and thrown into an orbit between Mars and Earth.
last edited: 9/19/05 9:48:18 PM
pitts
9:47:37 PM
9/19/05

Phil
3:39:38 AM
9/20/05

LOL -- This thread was just what I needed.

I saw, The Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy this weekend. My children sat quietly as I laughed. Amazingly enough, it kept their attention despite their lack of understanding. :)
sunshine
4:59:41 AM
9/20/05

As well, it is speculated that with each decision made by each conscious being

a new parallel universe is entered

with all new opportunities and outcomes

so the possibilities are infinite.
lonesurveyor
6:52:29 AM
9/20/05

well if it isn't Marvin Gardens! you sexy hunk of man (martian?) meat!
;-D
lyra
12:27:06 PM
9/20/05

If you're planning a trip to another universe, via a black hole, be sure to head for the weak sector:

http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/blackhole_travel_030404.html
Leofric1
12:44:09 AM
9/21/05

THANK GAWD!!!!!!!!!
WE'RE SAVED!!!!!!!

As I was reading this post I said to myself, 'Self, we need Marvin Gardens to make sense out of all this.'

And he APPEARED.
Gremlin
4:18:49 PM
9/21/05

In case of alien abduction these dog tags may save
your life. The crucial data an alien will need to get
you back to Earth is die stamped into these dog tags.

The design is based on NASA research for the Pioneer 10
Space Mission that used a gold plaque attached to the
craft to inform any Extraterrestrials of it's Earthly origin.

http://www.earthbounddog.com/
VioLiN
4:09:02 PM
9/22/05

If you're so far away from Earth that that thing is useful, getting home is the least of your problems.
bitpusher
4:16:35 PM
9/22/05

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