pistol or pitbull

“i usually hike with my pitbull, but now my 5 yr old nephew has been begging to come with me.

my brother wants me to take him, but does not trust my dog b/c he growls at strangers a lot.

so i figure i'll get a pistol instead for personal protection on the trail for when i hike with my nephew.

what kind do you recommend?
i was thinking about a .44 mag.”

“I have a 9mm berretta 15 in the clip, 1 in the pipe.”

“stop #&%!$footin' around! just go with a nuclear bomb.”

“ok make that "pus*yfootin'"”

“I smell trolling.”

“what's the T-meister carry lyra?”

“oh no!!! not dogs and guns again!!”

“why do you need a gun for? are the trails in your area crawling with criminals?”

“well he just got a camo vest for $50 that's made to hold a handgun, a (smoke) grenade, a bullystick, a pair of handcuffs, a knife, and 2 20-round mags. so i think he's prepared. LMAO!!! if only i were kidding.

lately we've been going to the shootin' range and blowing off some rounds with the old AK. fun times, yeeeehaww!!”

“.44 mag sounds good

Make My Day, Punk! ;-)”

“however that's not for hiking, mind you! that's for when SHTF and we have to defend ourselves against the invaders.
8D”

“I would take both. Just incase the kid misbehaves and causes trouble, you can shoot him.”

“I need to know two things before I can advise you:

1. why does your brother not trust your dog for growling at strangers if your brother is not a stranger...
2. why do you need personal protection on the trail...

remember, everything you carry on a hike should serve two purposes - choose a weapon that can be used for protection AND for critter hunting!”

“Don’t forget to bring a six-pack of beer with you. You might get thirsty from carrying the extra weight of the gun.”

“Instead of a gun get another pitbull, train both dogs for fighting, that way they'll spend all there time fighting each other and leave humans alone.


Plus if they get good a fighting you can make a few bucks down at the pit.”

“beer is also good for basting squirrel on a spit...don't forget the machete for the skinnin'!”

“a 6-pack is probably enough for the kid, but what is sacco going to drink?”

“pistol or pitbull?

I think you need both.
The pistol to shoot anyone that tries to hurt the pitbull while the dog is mauling them.”

“well he just got a camo vest for $50 that's made to hold a handgun, a (smoke) grenade, a bullystick, a pair of handcuffs, a knife, and 2 20-round mags. so i think he's prepared. LMAO!!! if only i were kidding.


grrrrrr baby!”

“1. why does your brother not trust your dog for growling at strangers if your brother is not a stranger...
2. why do you need personal protection on the trail...


1. my brother is still nervous around my dog cause the first time he met him last year we had smoked up a bunch. i think my dog got nervous cause we were acting strange to him.
then while we were distracted his kid was playing next to the dog's food dish and my dog growled.
he isn't normally protective of his food though.

2. cause we have bears in NY.”

“Don’t forget to bring a six-pack of beer with you. You might get thirsty from carrying the extra weight of the gun.”

i don't drink on the trail. it's stupid and irresponsible.”

“2. cause we have bears in NY.”
sacco
10:39:39 AM
9/27/0

ever heard of bear spray”

“bullet vs. pepper spray?

i think we all know which is more effective.”

“I dunno if anyone has ever done a study on the effects of pepper spray on a bullet, or vice versa.”

“if you get lucky with the one shot you will get. If you are that afraid of a bear don't go in the woods”

“common sense:

if i shoot a can of pepper spray it will explode. if i spray a gun it will have a nice minty odor for awhile.

winner: gun”

“I really hate dogs on the trail. I used to hike with dogs (actually a coyote)in the wilderness but even in the middle of no where, I've met people. I'm sure my dog has startled/frightened them as they tend to protect their owners. 90% of the dogs I've encountered in the woods were unleashed. Most barked & growled. A few tried to bite. If I carry a gun at all, it's for these dogs. I hate the extra weight so I've left it home until the next dog encounter. I'm gonna shoot the next one that bites me. In 35 years of hiking, I haven't found any critter not afraid of very loud noise, so I carried a .22 The only problem(s) with this .22 is long range & the safety kept coming off on it's own. Now I like a 45 long colt & .410 3" shell (shoots 5 .38 +/- balls) interchangeably w/ double safety derringer.”

“so you think a 45 colt is the way to go, huh?”

“Glock Model 30 .45 weighs 24oz.”

“you've got pitbulls?”

“I say bring the gun, the dog and a motocross bike....that's about rounds out the package...oh yeah, don't forget to bring a jug of Jack Daniels.

And if you have any gay atheist friends....

:o) :o) :o) :o) :o) :o) :o)
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“yo c-let!

how's it hanging?

ygm”

“i don't associate with athiests or gays.”

“bullet vs. pepper spray?

i think we all know which is more effective

pepper spray. its much easier to aim, and will incapacitate an aggressive bear. cant say the same for bullet”

“for an all around good trail gun.. I suggest a nice .357 magnum revolver with a 4" barrel.

a. a revolver will work every time.
b. it will stop anything upto black bears.(shot placement like always.. is key.)
c. a good 357 revolver can be had for a good price.
d. you can use 38special in your 357 for practice.(lower cost/recoil)

Model suggestion.. S&W 686 hands down one of the best revolvers on the market.

as for bear pepperspray.. im not a pepperspray fan. You have to wait till the bear is close enough(too close), you have to make sure you dont nail yourself. And I aint betting my life on a spice that might or might not work on that perticular bear that day.
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“I carried the 45 long colt/410 only because it was a (small) derringer with decent safety devices. 45 long colt is about 2 to 3 times larger than the 45 auto. I've got 357's & 9's. I like the .410 because of it's short range & can be loaded very well for snake. A 3" .410 shotgun shell coming out of a 3" derringer barrel isn't going to miss anything . Again, I mostly use it for noise & peace of mind. Don't trust pepper spray. I would use it lacking anything else or a non-lethal response, but I'd want something or somebody backing that up. Each to their own & think safety. If you drink or are short tempered, I think a weapon is a very bad idea.”

“Leave the nephew at home. Take the dog.
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“How often do bears attack people in New York? See them all the time in the Smokies, just run at them, scares the hell out of them. OK, so I've never done it but I've seen it done, and it worked. Glock 30 all the way. Guns don't sh@t on the trail.”

“NY has actually extended it's bear hunting season because of nuisance bears. I've had a black bear bluff charge me. I think, I would rather bang a couple rocks together than charge them. (again noise)I'd be more inclined to back away. Docile looking or not, there is a lot of power there. Watch one rip down a door with a swipe. Bears become a problem when they get used to people and/or they feed them. They're more of a problem in heavily traveled area's. In deeper woods or less traveled area's they still have their fear of people. Here, you just catch a blur in the distance.”

“i have to say that the mark of a good troll is when you know hes trolling and you cant help yourself but to respond anyway.

very entertaining, sac-boy :-D”

“thanks CB, normally i let my dog run free when i'm hiking (dogs need their freedom too)
but when we get to meet someday, i'll be sure to keep my pitbull on a leash for you ;)”

“Just thought I'd let you know that the leg wound from the last time your dog bit me is healing up nicely. The stitches should be coming out next week.”

“that's cool zac.

guess you learned your lesson not yell at my dog for poopin on the trail!”

“Gotta agree with Phils Son on this one... everyone seems to discount the 357 Mag... but facts are, the 357 has more "One Shot Stops/Kills than any other gun on the market. I have this one...
http://www.lesjones.com/posts/000037.shtml

There are also much smaller & lighter models of 357 around too if weight is a factor :-)

Capt. Jim

on yeah... I forgot to mention you can get a lever action Winchester or Marlin that fires the same round and have all the guns you'd need to "survive" in the woods alone for quite some time. http://www.gunblast.com/Winchester-Ranger357.htm
last edited: 9/28/05 9:37:11 AM”

“.357mag or 44mag might be a decent pistol round but it's a pitiful rifle round. You'd have to practice with .38's etc because the constant magnum loads would work the action apart. Going smaller & lighter make it harder to control & muzzle flash from magnums takes night vision away which you'll really need since you'll be deaf for a while.”

“Okay sacco, I've figured it out for ya - pistol or pitbull...both!
take the pistol to shoot the pitbull...


did somebody already say that?? :)”