Global Warming

“Uh, no XL, I have refuted all 3 postulations quite conclusively.


CB - thought the same thing myself. Obviously a troll who joined just yesterday just to poke around on this single fuego thread. We all know how often new members instantly turn on fuego and jump right into the middle of a fuego thread...”

“yes you accurately used deflection and consensus to refute Scientific evidence....I swear if you ever become a defense attorney..I want you defending my suspects....(LOL)”

“You guys turn nasty quickly.”

“Corey my man, not to worry. You apparently are very well versed in logic and facts. It is apparent you know from whence you speak. Don't let them chase you off.

The insults conservatives get are 'sarge", Stove Stomper etc....that is like being called "an enemy of the state" in the old soviet union...wear it as a badge of honor.”

“so co2 causes solar wind...........”

“oh yea xl, i saw a tv program that says YOURE wrong!”

“OKay I will come clean, Stove, Nigal and I are getting ready to start selling Carbon Vouchers. See I figure that you are basically getting credit for stuff you didn't do.

Well Stove was supposed to build a Steel Smeltering plant (BIG POLLUTER) and the accompanying HIGH SULPHUR (no scrubbers on this one either) Coal plant.

Nigal, was going to install A 40 trillion ton HVAC unit on the AT (with lights) so that people could hike without having to take heavy gear.

Me...well...I had planned on getting Braniff airlines going again. Figure 1000 aircraft flying all over (from the Climate Controlled AT to Stovie's Coal fired steel plant)

So if you guys are successful who can we sell these carbon footprint thingys to?

Jeeze I mean you guys bought the pet rocks and Carter in the 1970' s we figured you would buy this crap too...apparently "Never underestimate the stupidity of the American Consumer" actually does underestimate the stupidity.


oh and I gotta ask, since you libbies say Bush Lied about Iraq (regardless of the factual evidence from previous administrations)


If ALGORE were to say...admit he was overrepresenting the facts...would that mean he was LYING????

HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM????

well then...OSHPPER

http://www.grist.org/news/maindish/2006/05/09/roberts/index.html
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“You guys turn nasty quickly.”
Corey B


Very true, Corey B.

The worst part is that they think they're being funny.”

“They....? OOOH its the threatening THEY that control everything (LOL)”

“I just love how when the lefties selectively read/quote sources to prove points, they get called to the mat as the worst liars of the century.

You guys do it (and also ignore other sources that say the exact same thing as your source), and its all good. Yeah, real good way to discuss issues, guys. Makes you look really bad.”

“is the You guys above an agreement that you libbies do it...or are you saying You guys meaning NOT libbies?”

“This chap m9ght have lost his mind.”

“Corey, yes, XL has lost his mind.”

“Whats your opinion of the British show techntrek?”

“Ha ha ha !!!

I think XL has rabies.”

“Is there a British show called "techntrek"?”

““This chap m9ght have lost his mind.”
Corey B

Can't lose what you don't have.”

“I licensed my TT name to a show, but haven't seen a dime yet. But I'm believing reeeeeeeally hard that I'll get a check soon... I feeeeeel it.”

“me thinks you don't care about others opinions or getting all the facts

waste of a good brain”

“Um corey...when they go personal its kinda their idea of a hissy fit. Keep fighting you have really come in good. I mean it took me a couple of months before I got the Sarge comparison.”

“xl400236, the comparison doesn't sound like a good thing. Fihting ain't my bag. Just trying to learn. It;s amazinf how much you can learnby actually listning to 2 sides of an issue.”

“Two sides?”

“2 is betterthan 1”

“Its fun, Corey there are many times where being the Devil's Advocate or just throwing replies in can be entertaining.

Go with the belief that....IT AIN'T SERIOUS>”

“these scientists are coming out of the woodwork

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/warming/debate/singer.html”

“Thanks for the web link Corey B”

“That would be one view ladies and gentlemen. He does make some valid points, but he is not the spokesperson for the thousands of scientists that would disagree with many of his other points.”

“So your belief is majority must be right?

Come on techntrek, I hope you don't draw all your conclusions that way.

The video clearly demonstrates where the majority has come from - did yiu watch it?”

“WOW..tech how did you come down on the whole copernicus thing? (LOL)”

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“From Financial Times, regarding the recent testimony of the big 4 car makers in front of Congress (chief executives of Ford, DaimlerChrysler, Toyota NA and General Motors):

"John Dingell, chairman of the committee, who represents a district in Michigan that includes the headquarters of Ford Motor and who has been one of the most sceptical Democratic voices in the past, said: "Ladies and gentlemen. Hannibal is at the gates. The old debate is no longer sufficient. We need to talk about what can be done and what will work.

In spite of a past record of scepticism on climate change - particularly by Ford and GM - all four executives politely declined to agree with a suggestion by Joe Barton, a senior Republican member, that man-made carbon emissions were trivial."

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/1fa8a24e-d29c-11db-a7c0-000b5df10621.html



Oh, and since Bison decided to run away instead of supplying links for his "different" temp data (among other things he did not answer), I found another temp chart that does not show the supposed cooling period in the first half of the 20th century. Look at all the blue on the left and red on the right, showing the trend to warmer temps. And the middle is about equal, which doesn't show a cooling trend for that time frame.

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“Temperatures have been kept (albeit of questionable accuracy) since 1870...okay mouseketeer that is not Staistically significant in a geological sense.”

“Bison kept talking about a cooling period from 1900-1950, so I believe a chart showing temps from 1870 to present is quite relevant.

Which is exactly what I said above the chart.

And again at the top of this post.

And I'll probably have to repeat it a few more times.”

“umm could you do that with bullets and a few talking points? I lost the point of the conversation....”

“this is fummy. tech keeps coming back with hard data, and corey keeps coming back with "yea, but did ya watch the movie. it had neat voiceovers and everything", and yet xl keeps saying "way to go, corey youre really kicking his ass"”

“Yeah but facts and stuff aren't nearly as fun and sexy as rhetoric. Heehee!

Personally I still think global warming is a bunch of bullchit propagated to be a political tool and a new agenda. Wasn't it just back in the 80s they said we were entering a mini ice age?”

“the eighties were a long time ago”

“Not in the big scheme of time and history. While the 80s and my wardrobe may seem a long time ago it was but a kunt hair ago. As humans we would have a pretty high opinion of ourselves to think we could cause that much change and damage in that short a time. We aren't that powerful.”

“woah.... youre like, deep and stuff”

“PISH! More like deep dish.”

“Well... we know the earth has natural heating and cooling cycles... the last cycle was a cooling cycle and it ended 10,000 years ago. Read "ice age" on wikipedia:


Variations in temperature, CO2, and dust from the Vostok ice core over the last 400,000 years

So it is a FACT that the Earth has heating and cooling cycles independent of the influence of man and it is a FACT that CO2 levels likewise track heating and cooling cycles. Climate change is a known phenomena of the Earth and takes place independent of the activity of man.

What is at issue is whether or not the activity of man in the last 100-200 years has had significant role to play in altering this cycle. Some say yes, some say no.”

“thank you, mr. flipflopfence”

“ha, the earth hits a 200 year warming trend and folks freak out..........its been doing this cooling/warming thing for eons.......but, hey, lets cry about something...........its..uh...trendy....”

“I say yes but not at the rates the chicken littles claim.”

“...another way to look at this. If you look at the temperature chart techntrek posted (that covered under 200 years) you will see a +/- 1 degree variation in temperature. If you look at the chart I posted going back 400,000 years you can see that a variation of +/- 1 degree is NOTHING compared to the climate change mother nature imposed long before mankind was on the scene. There are LOTS of places on this chart that show a +/- 1 degree variation and often even more.”

“lets decry the criers and also birch about political correctness. they are also trendy

see, i can be dismissive, too. doesnt prove a goddamn thing”

“Whatever you wanna believe dude.

























Was that too dismissive? LOL!”

“trying to prove anything can be an unproven point.....
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