Global Warming

“As usual XL, you have one hand on your mouse and the other on your crack pipe.”

“OH CRAP....

http://www.wecnmagazine.com/2007issues/may/may07.html

Mines in Switzerland that were overtaken by the Little Ice Age...meaning it was WARMER at one time....then got COOLER (think going from summer to fall to winter to spring if you can't wrap your mind around the Geological thing).

"Bryson describes the navigational instructions provided for Norse mariners making their way from Europe to their settlements in Greenland. The place was named for a reason: The Norse farmed there from the 10th century to the 13th, a somewhat longer period than the United States has existed. But around 1200 the mariners’ instructions changed in a big way. Ice became a major navigational reference. Today, old Viking farmsteads are covered by glaciers.

Bryson mentions the retreat of Alpine glaciers, common grist for current headlines. “What do they find when the ice sheets retreat, in the Alps?”

We recall the two-year-old report saying a mature forest and agricultural water-management structures had been discovered emerging from the ice, seeing sunlight for the first time in thousands of years. Bryson interrupts excitedly.

“A silver mine! The guys had stacked up their tools because they were going to be back the next spring to mine more silver, only the snow never went,” he says. “There used to be less ice than now. It’s just getting back to normal.””

“This killed me:

"Or perhaps it's a remnant of the careless Boomer worldview, that all-American, use-it-before-it's-gone attitude that spins on an axis of a truly horrible irony: The more we learn of our desperate environmental straits, the more we learn of dwindling oil reserves and the more we learn that our shiny happy United States might not be the responsible, beneficent global superpower we once dreamed it was, the more we say "screw it" and grab onto the last gasp of pleasurable excess and vice no matter the future repercussions, telling ourselves we might as well enjoy that stupid, chromed-out three-ton GMC Yukon Denali before the oil runs out and the terrorists eat my babies and the damn liberals change the laws and make us all drive Smart cars to the Tofu Hut in order to turn us all gay. Sound familiar?"

ROF!”

“That's why I love liberals, Tilty!

WOOF-WOOF!!”

“No more Hummer, yay!”

“OKAAAAY...so the fact that it was WARM once (hence silver mines that were covered OVER by the glaciers) means that it might have gotten COOLER now its GETTTING warmer...means what to the Hummer going out of style?”

“Is gasoline the most abused drug in the country?”

“Its a referance to peak oil XL... You did notice the price of gas lately? Its not an accident no one wants to build a new refinery when the supply is dropping...”

“Wrong, LJ, oil companies would love to build more refineries. But every time they try, they are blocked by enviro freaks, legislation freaks, and every special interest group you can think of. Now we are paying the price of our shortsightedness.”

“Yep... it was Them Enviro Freaks that were responsible for the ungodly natural gas prices in California a few years ago... 'til Enron got busted. Maybe you missed that.

If oil companies build more refinery capacity, there will be downward pressure on gas pricing and You Know they sure as #&%!$ don't want That!

Perhaps you should wonder why George&Dickie's buddies in the Awl Bidness bought up all those small refineries and promptly shut them down.”

“That's ok Tilt, keep your head in the sand and blame BIG OIL. It makes you feel better, and that's all that is important. Reality has no place in the libbie world, as you have proven so many times.”

“Big oil could build anything they want , but they want you to think it's all the greenies fault. Nukes are in the same boat, but they want even more gov. perks than the billions already offered.”

“SB, I repeat "Reality has no place in the libbie world, as you have proven so many times". Thank you for the excellent demonstration.”

“I for one hope to see the oil companies profits continue to go up. 4 or 5 dollar gas prices, bring it on.

When oil companies make money, I make money.”

“UM....can anyone tell me the average profit per gallon the BIG EVVVVIL oil makes..and then how much the government makes per gallon?”

“How much of that tax goes back into sudsidies? Go back a few years to that joint senate-house energy circus- what a joke. Or better, go back to the 1979 senate hearing in which the oil execs were telling of the woes of 55MPH and small cars had curbed demand to the point their companies might not survive. I own ;CVX, RIG and XTO.”

“Right now...the reason the supply is low is that we are switching from WINTER blends to something like 55 SUMMER blends...plus the fact that as the demand for fuel has gone up the production capability has actually DROPPED.”

“Just fantasy XL...

You are aware that inspite of the saudi promise to increase oil production they declined 8 percent last year...”

“For six years we had a rubber stamp probusiness government. Do they try to fix this obvious supply problem, no, they're the same bunch that would give amnesty to the 19 9/11 perpetators if they were still alive. Oh that's right, when you're a Rush Limbaugh conservative, national security is done by building ideal democracies out of radio reception area.”

“Xl - if you owned an oil company right now.... why would you want to actually build a new refinery? why spend a few billion when the profits are at an all time high?.”

“Why bother to repair or improve those refineries that you already have when you can drive prices up when they go offline??
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“Yes, BP led the way in NO maintenance. The lord Brown had other things to do. Insurance is cheaper than safety gear. But nomatter what, make the public think your on their side against those damn industrial capitalist.”

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“Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (Dem) walks from his Chevrolet Suburban (left) to attend a news conference on energy efficiency Wednesday in Upper Senate Park. Reid rode in the sport utility vehicle from the Capitol to the event, which was across the street.”
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“Can you imagine having voted for him , if you were in his state. Infact, can you imagine having voted for any of the other 49+1=50,+1=51(the dick). Nice day ,ah?”

“Xl - if you owned an oil company right now.... why would you want to actually build a new refinery? why spend a few billion when the profits are at an all time high?.”
Lumberjack
1:10:52 PM
5/26/07

Why do you have to own an oil company? If refineries are such a profit center, why aren't the Bloombergs of the world building them?”

“Since 1973, the 'REEL' price of oil has been in the periods when demand diminishes (imaginerally) for a while ,so lower prices reintensify our addiction , which again leads to the 'GAFF'.
The Bloomberg refinery would probably come on line in the middle of the next 'REEL-GAFF'period, at which point he would be standing on an outrageous capital outlay with gross operating cost and lots of 'red' numbers.
Basically, when the Saudies pull the chain ,you better follow.”

“If refineries are such a profit center, why aren't the Bloombergs of the world building them?”
bacpac


Because the oil oligopoly has been steadily buying up smaller refiners and limiting refining capacity in a deliberate effort to drive up prices and the FTC has been negligent by not protecting consumers. They have enjoyed record profits as a result. http://www.gao.gov/new.items/d0496.pdf

duh.”

“http://www.cbs47.tv/news/state/story.aspx?content_id=256a9c75-269a-40ca-929c-8868f84736a5

The Mayor of San F sisco is banning Bottled water to help fight global warming.

This is illustrative of my objection to the global warming hysteria. I do not debate climage changes...it does...but I disagree that we are having any effect.

Rather the people pushing this idea use it to gain control in parts of our lives where they should have no...and I mean NO control.

My argument is that GLOBAL WARMING HYSTERIA is an emotional issue...much like the hysteria over witches in the 16 and 1700s. And I see WAAAY to many people using it for personal gain.
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“Because some become hysterical does that define the lot? Defining all by the actions of the fringe is hysterical in itself. Pick up a copy of 'Collapse' by Jared Diamond. It demonstrates how well the US is following all the other fallen civilizations into the tank in a singlefile line of perfection.
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“And why is that...because maybe we are devalueing the meaning of BEING AN AMERICAN?

Or maybe because we are slowly slipping into the womanized socialist society where the VICTIM gets more attention and praise than the Individual?”

“In as few words+1- Supply Side is a bandaid.”

“In fewer words...FREEDOM WORKS”

“Then, give us Freedom not Fascism.”

“OOOH please define fascisim and in 1000 words or less tell us how that style of government is in effect in the US today?
Thats an emotion word for libbies...no thought just a word.”

“Libby had to appear sometime. Military as a political tool- ring a bell?”

“I think X hears a lot of "bells".”

“So...you can't define fascisim....but you use the word. I thought as much.

Un I really can't argue with you since you do not possess the understanding of the words you use. Kinda like a child using a curse word...its sad.”

“Why don't you explain to us then XL.

And socialism for that matter

And while you're about it explain to us what this BS phrase means

devalueing the meaning of BEING AN AMERICAN

And maybe you'll need more than 1,000 words to explain in how climate change theories can be compared to witchcraft.
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“Y2 I have defined it adinifinitum...so now it is time to see if you know WHAT Fascisim is...or if it is just another neat word you pull like RACISIM etc.

I am betting it is the latter....

As for climate change and witchcraft...it calls for a study of history...LOL same "scientific process" being used. It was a process whereby if you were accused it stuck. There was no real process...it was almost totally emotional.

Same thing for the Enviornutjobs. Face it they are loser loons who make their living on selling the snake oil of the 21st Century which is Enviornmentalisim.”

“And I would have thought you could at least found something in WW2 to compare global warming to.

Battle of the Bulge, operation Sea Lion, Overlord, Midway, Dunkirk maybe?
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“Xl, when you look at something for what it is rather than how it compares to the 'Libby' concept, I'll try my best to take you with some serious consideration.”

“This envoronmentalist seems particulalry wacko:

"The way to meet the challenge of energy and global climate change is through technology. And the United States is in the lead. The world is on the verge of great breakthroughs that will help us become better stewards of the environment."

He's been pitching the sanke oil for quite some time.”

“Science is just hollywood producer manufactured crap . We need to get back to WWII and past to where the real secrets of environment hide. When in Rome do as the Atslantas do.
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“"The way to meet the challenge of energy and global climate change is through technology. And the United States is in the lead. The world is on the verge of great breakthroughs that will help us become better stewards of the environment."
WHY2

SO why would Y want to Handcuff our nation by screwing with the very technology and advances (as a result of free people in the pursuit of success) by forcing Socialistic policies that seem only to be designed to share the pain of the third world by punishing the successes...LIKE KYOTO?

The only reason is that you really don't give a rats ass about global warming you want to support the Global Shared pain called Socialisim.”

“it's getting warm in here........”

“Save that kind of oration for the ReichStag, XL, you're spitting.

I was talking to my sister-in-law recently and she mentioned writing a term paper for senior year in high school about Global Warming/Climate Change.
Uh, the year was 1966.

My father-in-law worked for the National Weather Service in the Washington D.C. area and it seems he and his colleagues saw this stuff coming in the '60s.

Go back to your voodoo-swampthang-witchcraft, XL.

Maybe you will hear some more bells and get this thing settled.”

“After that, I'm going to yahoo music for some Elfman, 'Yes I know...'.”

“LOL..Marky Mark...I was in school in the 60's and 70's and you are WRONG as is charachteristic...the truth is in that time it was...GASP GLOBAL COOLING...yes the next ice age was on the way due to our use of leaded fuels.

Come on that even makes the point. Its not a fact its a political gambit. You guys need to find something different to accuse me of if you go the nazi route...I am not the one (vile baby can back me up on this) who continually alludes to allowing the destruction of Isreal.

but that is the typical libbie "OOOH I AM SCARED..I just peeed my skivvies lets pull the emotion word to get back at him" action...keep it up its hilarious...and we are laughing at you.”