Global Warming

“In this case, the messenger doesn't seem to really believe the message.
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“Gotta agree with Corey....kinda like ...Oh I don't know...a Televangleist who is caught doinking a secretary....But you guys allow him a pass don't you?

Or say a Congressman who is big on family values who is caught doinking around...I seem to remember the libs really standing up for him.....

(SOUNDS LIKE HYPOCRISY TO ME!!!)”

“It's hard to tell people to stop smoking with a cigarette in your mouth. But, Gee, are you going to not believe the message? I have a good friend who is a famous theologian and is himself an athesist.”

“Shall I spell out (yet again) all the ways I "walk the walk" through gradual change? The word "gradual" is key - this isn't about becoming agrarian again and throwing all of our modern efficiencies in the compost pile. You change a little at a time, and if everyone changed a little at a time suddenly the problem goes away.

You walk 2160 miles by taking it one step at a time, not all of it in one giant leap from GA to ME.”

“That's a good point, but there doesn't seem to be a cigarett either.

No warming problem. People who "think" it is doesn't take it seriously and are more worried about shoving their ethics down my throat than leading by example.
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“So if they kill themselves to cool the globe, then you'll believe them? You know ,kinda like a 'sewerside bomber'.Better talk to XL, have him tell you about the anti-socialist socialist.”

“First they lie.... then they fry.”

“Kill themselves to cool the globe? How? You lost me. Are you saying if they did what they ask of everyone else they'd be dead?”

“There is no such thing as global warming, I'm offended - please ban this thread Miss Analbead!”

“Ain't no such thang as being offended by no such thang, so, forget it Analbeard. Borey C, what you say does not hear me. Dead people are endothermic only days above 99*F, so I lied to you. But, to walk the walk, 'sewerside' is the ticket, because all the food you eat each day warms the planet and if you've noticed Al Gore looks like he's doing his part well.”

“Pretty Sneaky, but
http://www.onelook.com/?w=athesist&ls=a

LOL”

“As usual, the trolls can't acknowledge when some people do follow their own beliefs and act on those beliefs.

Yawn. (XL's yawns are contagious).”

“..elbows up, side to side, lean like a chollo...”

“Tech I have no problem with you or anyone following your religion. What I have a problem is with you demanding the Government enforce your religion.”

“Well XL, Mr. Dorkey B loves shouting from the rooftops that none of us GW evengalists follow what we preach, and I love demonstrating that he's wrong. "He" being used loosely since its a troll..”

“I agree Bush has been a HUGE dissappointment to me. I think part of his problem is he has tried to be a "nice" guy. He wants to build the same consensus he built with the Texas house and senate.

His father had the same exact problem. He tried to MAKE NICE with people who have no other plan than to acquire power.

If you want to hammer him on realistic charges I have no problem. BUT COME ON. there is not one charge that has stuck. They are made up, and promoted by a willing liberal media who is unaccountable.

When Carter did the same incompetent leadership he was opposed by a President who SET a direction, and LED in that direction. Bush seems like he is scared of making a tough call.”

“http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D8QMHR8O0&show_article=1

The number of tropical storms developing annually in the Atlantic Ocean more than doubled over the past century, with the increase taking place in two jumps, researchers say.

The increases coincided with rising sea surface temperature, largely the byproduct of human-induced climate warming,

This is interesting because I'm pretty sure on this thread I can find several references to people saying global warming doesn't cause increases in storm activity, only increases in verocity of the storms.

Which is it?”

“Since we are talking about Global Warming here, my guess is that it's both.”

“WOW...so we can cause Global warming...there have been 6 known Ice Ages (the most recent ended in the LATE 1800's) lets ask a itty bitty question here....five ended before HUMAN presence...how did that happen????”

“magic”

“Why do your tails always get away when you chase them and why do you chase each others'?”

“C'mon uncliff, even someone who doesn't speak english like you has probably chased a little tail from time to time.”

“Here we go, starting with moonglo's post (cool guy) on the non-fuego thread.

http://www.thebackpacker.com/trailtalk/thread/13299,-1,33.php

I wonder if lonesurveyor has changed his mind. You out there?”

“moonglo was a guy??????????????????”

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The air is full of lechery, and rumors of lechery.

I want to compliment Chief Burke--I do honestly. But I can't find anything to compliment him about. He is always rushing furiously around, like a dog after his own tail--and with the same general result, it seems to me; if he catches it, it don't amount to anything, after all the fuss; and if he don't catch it it don't make any difference, because he didn't want it anyhow; he only wanted the exercise, and the happiness of "showing off" before his mistress and the other young ladies. But if the Chief would only do something praiseworthy, I would be the first and most earnest and cordial to give him the credit due. I would sling him a compliment that would knock him down. I mean that it would be such a first-class compliment that it might surprise him to that extent as coming from me.
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In response to the above letter that appeared in the San Francisco Examiner on February 5 -- Twain penned this letter to the Editors of the Examiner. The letter appeared 7 February 1866:

EXPLANATION OF A MYSTERIOUS SENTENCE

EDITOR EXAMINER: -- You published the following paragraph the other day and stated that it was an "extract from a letter to the Virginia Enterprise, from the San Francisco correspondent of that paper." Please publish it again, and put in the parentheses where I have marked them, so that people who read with wretched carelessness may know to a dead moral certainty when I am referring to Chief Burke, and also know to an equally dead moral certainty when I am referring to the dog:

I want to compliment Chief Burke--I do honestly. But I can't find anything to compliment him about. He is always rushing furiously around, like a dog after his own tail--and with the same general result, it seems to me; if he (the dog, not the Chief,) catches it, it don't amount to anything, after all the fuss; and if he (the dog, not the Chief,) don't catch it it don't make any difference, because he (the dog, not the Chief,) didn't want it anyhow; he (the dog, not the Chief,) only wanted the exercise, and the happiness of "showing off" before his (the dog's, not the Chief's,) mistress and the other young ladies. But if the Chief (not the dog,) would only do something praiseworthy, I would be the first and the most earnest and cordial to give him (the Chief, not the dog,) the credit due. I would sling him (the Chief, not the dog,) a compliment that would knock him down. I mean that it would be such a first-class compliment that it might surprise him (the Chief, not the dog,) to that extent as coming from me.

I think that even the pupils of the Asylum at Stockton can under stand that paragraph now. But in its original state, and minus the explanatory parentheses, there were people with sufficiently gorgeous imaginations to gather from it that it contained an intimation that Chief Burke kept a mistress!--and not only that, but they also imagined that Chief Burke was in the habit of amusing that mistress with an entertainment of the most extraordinary character! I grant you that if you can make the sentence mean that it was the Chief who amused "his mistress and the other young ladies," it must mean that the same individual went through the truly surprising performance alluded to. I was sorry to learn that any one had placed so dire a misconstruction upon that sentence; I was genuinely sorry, but the idea was so unspeakably funny that I had to laugh a little, in spite of my tears. Certain friends of thc Chief's were really distressed about this thing, and my object in writing this paragraph now, is to assure them emphatically that I did not intend to hint that he kept a mistress, and to further assure them that I have never heard any one in the world intimate such a thing. I think that is plain enough. I have written hard things about Chief Burke, in his official capacity, and I have no doubt I shall do it again; but I have not the remotest idea of meddling with his private affairs. Even if he kept a mistress, I would hardly parade it in thc public prints; nor would I object to his performing any gymnastic miracle which might suggest itself to his mind as being calculated to afford her wholesome amusement. I am a little at loggerheads with M. J. Burke, Chief of Police, and I must beg leave to stir that officer up some in the papers from time to time; but M. J. Burke, in his capacity as a private citizen, is a bosom friend of mine, and is safe from my attacks. I would even drink with him, if asked to do so. But Chief Burke don't keep a mistress. On second thoughts, I only wish he did. I would call it malfeasance in office and publish it in a minute!

MARK TWAIN.


[12. "Explanation of a Mysterious Sentence" reprinted in "Mark Twain's Imbroglio with the San Francisco Police: Three Lost Texts," Gary Scharnhorst; American Literature (Dec. 1990) pp. 686-91.]



http://www.twainquotes.com/18660123t.html

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“All Hail God Gore!!!”

“moonglo:cool guy as:
a.) sky:blue
b.) Angelina Jolie:Hot Chick
c.) Lyra:preggers
d.) stovestomper:ladies man
e.) a,b&c”

“"moonglo was a guy??????????????????”


yes, he was my troll back in the day - but he was left "ambiguous" for your entertainment pleasure”

“Dangit BB, you know I'm no good at math!”

“lol NC - I'll give you a hint, the correct number, errrrrrr letter is D!”

“Like Moore, Gore's doing something right to get the attentions of the "Libby Twins'and all the other smart ass Trailers that follow the mutha ship.”

“Be on the lookout for the next movie: "No End In Sight"  (you can guess the subject)

Whatever happened to the Rick Santorum project?”

“I was just thinking how the talk radio crap floods the airways day in and day out.  It has an immediate impact, like the nightly news.... but these movies will be around for decades.

I was watching a classic a month or so ago: The Ten Thousand Day War (1980).... realising the film is nearly 30 years old.”

“The head of the Environmental Protection Agency says he will investigate a threatening letter sent by the leader of an EPA-member group, vowing to "destroy" the career of a climate skeptic.

"It is my intention to destroy your career as a liar," Mr. Eckhart wrote. "If you produce one more editorial against climate change, I will launch a campaign against your professional integrity. I will call you a liar and charlatan to the Harvard community of which you and I are members. I will call you out as a man who has been bought by Corporate America. Go ahead, guy. Take me on."

http://www.washingtontimes.com/article/20070727/NATION02/107270089”

“Can I have a 90 day extension on that 10,000 days, my contractors need a few more paychecks.”

“Congress is voting this week on H.R. 969, a bill that will dramatically boost solar and wind energy. If it passes, it'll be like taking 37 million cars off the road.1 Along with the rest of the energy package, it'll be the biggest step in two decades toward a clean planet and affordable energy.

Big oil and coal are fighting the bill hard, because it would undercut their stranglehold on our economy. That's why Congress needs to hear from the public that clean energy is a priority. So, today we're launching a petition:


"Congress must act now to move our country toward a clean energy economy based on solar and wind power by voting yes on H.R. 969, the Federal Renewable Energy Standards Act."

Can you sign this petition today? Clicking here will add your name:

http://pol.moveon.org/cleanenergyfuture/o.pl?&id=10885-4327567-ayBRb8&t=3

This is the moment on energy that we've been waiting for.


The bill requires utilities to increase the percentage of electricity produced from wind, biomass, geothermal, and solar energy sources. If it passes, utilities nationwide will produce 20% of their electricity from renewable energy sources by 2020. This bill alone will reduce 511 million tons of global warming pollution.

Already, over twenty-one states and the District of Columbia have adopted similar requirements. It's a tested and proven solution.

And because the bill allows utilities around the country to buy and sell extra renewable energy they produce, that means more competition and lower prices.

Investing in renewable energy sources would not only curb global warming and protect the environment—the bill is projected to create over 185,000 new jobs, save consumers over $31.8 billion on their energy bills, and provide almost $67 billion in new capital investments in the next couple decades.2

Here what's the San Antonio Express-News had to say about the bill:

Whether one believes in global warming or not, taking steps to reduce our dependence on non-renewable fuels like oil makes sense. It will result in a cleaner, healthier environment for future generations, wean the nation slowly off its dependence on oil and save consumers millions in energy costs.3

Congress need to hear from us now—the vote is expected to be close, and winning would be an important step forward. Can you sign this petition now?

"Congress must act now to move our country toward a clean energy economy based on solar and wind power by voting yes on H.R. 969, the Federal Renewable Energy Standards Act."

http://pol.moveon.org/cleanenergyfuture/o.pl?&id=10885-4327567-ayBRb8&t=4

Thanks for all you do,

–Ilyse, Carrie, Wes, Karin, and the MoveOn.org Political Action Team
Monday, July 30th, 2007

Sources:

1. "Cashing in on clean energy", Union of Concerned Scientists (report), 2007,
http://www.moveon.org/r?r=2853&&id=10885-4327567-ayBRb8&t=5

2."Cashing in on clean energy", Union of Concerned Scientists (report), 2007,
http://www.moveon.org/r?r=2853&&id=10885-4327567-ayBRb8&t=6

3. "Give the thumbs up to renewable energy" San Antonio Express-News, July 20, 2007
http://www.moveon.org/r?r=2844&&id=10885-4327567-ayBRb8&t=7”

“Please we want SILLY LIBBY BACK.”

“http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/science/article2195538.ece

This is going to hurt the Religion of the HOLY ENVIROWACKOS>...(LOL)

Walking does more than driving to cause global warming, a leading environmentalist has calculated.

Food production is now so energy-intensive that more carbon is emitted providing a person with enough calories to walk to the shops than a car would emit over the same distance. The climate could benefit if people avoided exercise, ate less and became couch potatoes. Provided, of course, they remembered to switch off the TV rather than leaving it on standby.

The sums were done by Chris Goodall, campaigning author of How to Live a Low-Carbon Life, based on the greenhouse gases created by intensive beef production. “Driving a typical UK car for 3 miles [4.8km] adds about 0.9 kg [2lb] of CO2 to the atmosphere,” he said, a calculation based on the Government’s official fuel emission figures. “If you walked instead, it would use about 180 calories. You’d need about 100g of beef to replace those calories, resulting in 3.6kg of emissions, or four times as much as driving”

“Get the illegals out of the jobs they work too hard-that's where the expeniture of energy is.”

“Well that goes without saying...and their primary diet is ???HMMMM???which causes Methane...HMMMM?

Uncliff has stumbled on something here.”

“Packbackers are the real culprits, farting at high elevation- dehydrocarbons?”

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Global Warming is STILL Good for You!

Source: Newsweek, August 13, 2007

Five years ago in their book "Trust Us We're Experts," CMD's Sheldon Rampton and John Stauber exposed the propaganda machine selling Americans the idea that global warming is good for us. Newsweek's Sharon Begley examines the current situation: "If you think those who have long challenged the mainstream scientific findings about global warming recognize that the game is over, think again. ... Since the late 1980s, this well-coordinated, well-funded campaign by contrarian scientists, free-market think tanks and industry has created a paralyzing fog of doubt around climate change. ... Now they contend that the looming warming will be minuscule and harmless."

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“Who'll trade a case of sunscreen for my down bag?”

“fun fun fun         in the         sun sun sun”

“Anyone going to see DiCaprio's narrated flick, the 11th Hour next week?”

“Quick! Somebody name a bigger hypocrite regarding Global Warming than DiCaprio.

(I think there is one)”

“All hail the God, Gore!”

“Cool it, Al.”

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I now know exactly where XL's 'religion' talking point came from and exactly how much the Western Fuels Association paid for it.

(LOL)

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