Global Warming

“Looks like somebody's ignoring the peer-reviewed studies!

LMAO!

Ironically, Jack and Jill is likely a reference to higher taxes based on less product - the backbone of global warming alarmism - more taxes on less substance!!

Jack fell down and broke his crown, and Jill came tumbling after. Ah, the good 'ole days when people actually wrote child propoganda that is against big government. What happened to this world?

libs


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“I expect the successful? 'deniers' would be happy with this, which would truly relieve them of all responsibilty in the name of 'the cloth' and their leader:

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=viewArticle&code=CHI20070521&articleId=5720”

“Hey hillside - try to stay on topic. Thanks.

Although you did just nicely confirm that this isn't as much about global warming for you guys, as it is about hating the right.

Nice job.
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“Get back to pollution and leave Gore with his religion then. Or, did you all kinda like that big unmanageable catch all term 'Global Warming'? Start thinking as I , that 'Global Swarming' is where the problem lies. It is nice to see you wingers getting a scrap of food occasionally.”

“Sarge this is all so typical of the new home of Socialisim. The object is to SHARE the pain of being "a victim". The thing the professional victims miss (until too late) in their desire to "Stickit to the Rich" is when they do eventually nail the successful they lose even more.

LOL...I remember following the riots in LA where the street scum burned the Korean Grocery Stores (saying they had been stealing from them). Then a few weeks later there is this Free Money queen CRYING, "Ain't got no where to cash my check."

We will shortly begin seeing the attack on smokers pay off when the taxes we have bet on smokers paying drops as the smokers quit. Here is the question...since Big Government needs the money...where will they turn?”

“Quit lying to these people.”

“no comments on the peer-reviewed articles?

Out of sight ... out of mind. Maybe we'll forget?”

“Ol' tiltypoo has such an open mind. ;-)”

“It's just more trolling.”

“That's all it is.... And that's all you are.”

“Hey tilty...where do you live in Augusta?(LOL) you may be getting a surprise before long.”

“Yeah Right.”

“Tilt - are you trying to bump the peer-reviewed information off the page with your senseless gibberish? Come on man.”

““New Peer-Reviewed Scientific Studies Chill Global Warming Fears

An abundance of new peer-reviewed studies, analysis, and data error discoveries in the last several months has prompted scientists to declare that fear of catastrophic man-made global warming “bites the dust” and the scientific underpinnings for alarm may be “falling apart.” The latest study to cast doubt on climate fears finds that even a doubling of atmospheric carbon dioxide would not have the previously predicted dire impacts on global temperatures. This new study is not unique, as a host of recent peer-reviewed studies have cast a chill on global warming fears.

Climate fears reduced to ‘children’s games’

Overturning IPCC consensus ‘in one fell swoop’

UK officially admits: Global warming has stopped!

Sampling of very recent inconvenient scientific developments for proponents of catastrophic man-made global warming:

New peer-reviewed study on Surface Warming and the Solar Cycle:

Belgian weather institute’s (RMI) August 2007 study dismisses decisive role of CO2 in warming

New peer-reviewed study finds global warming over last century linked to natural causes

New peer-reviewed study finds clouds may greatly reduce global warming:

New peer-reviewed study finds that the solar system regulates the earth’s climate

A July 2007 review of 539 abstracts in peer-reviewed scientific journals from 2004 through 2007 found that climate science continues to shift toward the views of global warming skeptics.

Chinese scientists Lin Zhen-Shan, and Sun Xian’s 2007 study, published in the peer-reviewed Meteorology and Atmospheric Physics, noted that CO2’s impact on warming may be “excessively exaggerated.”

Several recent scientific studies have debunked a media hyped UK study alleging there has not been a solar-climate link in the past 20 years.

An August 2007 NASA temperature data error discovery has lead to 1934 -- not the previously hyped 1998 -- being declared the hottest in U.S. history since records began.

Numerous U.S. temperature collection data errors exposed by team of researchers led by Meteorologist Anthony Watts in 2007

Team of Scientists Question Validity Of A 'Global Temperature'

A July 2007 analysis of peer-reviewed literature thoroughly debunks fears of Greenland and the Arctic melting and predictions of a frightening sea level rise.

Even the alarmist UN has cut sea level rise estimates dramatically since 2001 and has reduced man’s estimated impact on the climate by 25%.

A May 2007 Senate Environment & Public Works report detailed a sampling of scientists who were once believers in man-made global warming and who now are skeptical.

An upcoming Fall 2007 blockbuster U.S. Senate report is set to be released that will feature a sampling of peer-reviewed studies and hundreds of scientists (many current and former UN scientists) who have spoken out recently against Gore, the UN, and the media engineered climate “consensus.”

Prominent scientists speak out to calm CO2 emission fears

Spitting outside has ‘same effect’ as doubling CO2

‘Temperature drives CO2’

Man-made CO2 equivalent to linoleum on first floor of 100 story building

NASA's James Hansen calls climate skeptics ‘court jesters’

Media continues to ignore growing scientific evidence


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“I don't argue with winos on the street, either.”

“I don't argue with winos on the street, either.”
Tilt
12:07:03 PM
8/22/07

I doubt this statement is true.”

“Global Warming is not about SAVING the Planet...it is ALL about POWER..the Socialist Power grab of the Have Nots over the haves.

http://breitbart.com/article.php?id=070823185326.p1600zj5&show_article=1&catnum=0

In order to save the world the ONLY WAY is the UN way.”

“Anti-Global warming is brought to you by the people that import CRAP FROM CHINA and ILLIES FROM ANYWHERE. Power to the Corps..”

“Illies? QUE?

Um the Crap from China...if you weren't buying it...it wouldn't sell...(LOL)

Besides didn't Hillary and Bill sell out to them in their time? I mean they gave up Loral Aerospace information so that the Chinese missiles could hit the West Coast....(LOL) This irony of that is just cutting.
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“Bill and Hill???”

“yes. Un...remember the last Administration. Buddhist Monks, Chinese illegal donations...come ON does your jack russel terrior attention span go back that far?”

“Global Cooling is an Ecological Disaster — ON PLUTO !!!!

By SARA MCCULLOUGH
WASHINGTON, D.C. — Late last week, NASA received a desperate — and surprise — SOS from the planet Pluto.

“They wanted us to send heat lamps immediately,” explained Communications Officer Sunny Cavalier. “They need them to combat global cooling.

“They’re having the opposite ecological problem from what we’re experiencing on Earth,” Cavalier continued. “As Pluto’s orbit carries it farther from the Sun, their temperatures fall as low as minus four hundred degrees Fahrenheit.”

[Where will XL go for his "news" now that the Weekly World News is shutting down?]”

“I have to rely on you HillnBillies for the history.”

“
Aug. 27, 2007

Grey Hautaluoma
Headquarters, Washington
202-358-0668
grey.hautaluoma-1@nasa.gov

Lynn Chandler
Goddard Space Flight Center, Greenbelt, Md.
301-286-2806
lynn.chandler-1@nasa.gov

RELEASE: 07-181

SCIENTISTS SEE FIRST SIGNS OF LONG-TERM CHANGES IN TROPICAL RAINFALL

WASHINGTON - NASA scientists have detected the first signs that
tropical rainfall is on the rise, using the longest and most complete
data record available.

The international scientific community assembled a 27-year global
record of rainfall from satellite and ground-based instruments. The
researchers found the rainiest years between 1979 and 2005 occurred
primarily after 2001. The wettest year was 2005, followed by 2004,
2003, 2002 and 1998. The study appeared in the August 1 issue of the
American Meteorological Society's Journal of Climate. The rainfall
increase was concentrated over tropical oceans, with a slight decline
over land.

"When we look at the whole planet over almost three decades, the total
amount of rain falling has changed very little. But in the tropics,
where nearly two-thirds of all rain falls, there has been an increase
of 5 percent," said lead author Guojun Gu, a research scientist at
NASA's Goddard Space Flight Center in Greenbelt, Md.

Climate scientists predict that a warming trend in Earth's atmosphere
and surface temperatures would produce an accelerated recycling of
water between land, sea and air. Warmer temperatures increase the
evaporation of water from the ocean and land and allow air to hold
more moisture. Eventually, clouds form that produce rain and snow.

"A warming climate is the most plausible cause of this observed trend
in tropical rainfall," said co-author Robert F. Adler, senior
scientist at Goddard's Laboratory for Atmospheres. Adler and Gu are
now working on a detailed study of the relationship between surface
temperatures and rainfall patterns to investigate the possible link
further.

Obtaining a global view of our planet's rainfall patterns is a
challenge. Only since the satellite era have regular estimates of
rainfall over oceans been available to supplement the long-term, but
land-limited record from rain gauges. Recently, the many different
land- and space-based data have been merged into a global record: the
Global Precipitation Climatology Project, organized under the World
Climate Research Program.

Using this global record, the scientists identified a small upward
trend in overall tropical rainfall since 1979. To assess whether this
pattern was a long-term trend rather than natural year-to-year
variability, they removed the effects of the two natural phenomena
that change rainfall: the El Ni?o-Southern Oscillation and large
volcanic eruptions.

El Niño is a cyclical warming of the ocean waters in the central and
eastern tropical Pacific that generally occurs every three to seven
years and alters weather patterns worldwide. Volcanoes that loft
debris into the upper troposphere and stratosphere create
globe-circling bands of aerosol particles that slow the formation of
precipitation by increasing the number of small cloud drops and
temporarily shielding the planet from sunlight. The result lowers
surface temperatures and evaporation that fuels rainfall. Two such
eruptions - El Chicon in Mexico and Mount Pinatubo in the Philippines
- occurred during the 27-year period.

The scientists found that during El Niño years, total tropical
rainfall did not change significantly, but more rain fell over oceans
than usual. During the two years following each volcanic eruption,
overall tropical rainfall was reduced by about 5 percent. With these
effects removed from the rainfall record, the long-term trend appears
more clearly in the rainfall data both over land and over the ocean.

According to Adler, evidence for the rainfall trend is holding as more
data come in. The latest numbers for 2006 show another record-high
year for tropical rainfall, tying 2005 as the rainiest year. Adler's
research group at NASA produces the Global Precipitation Climatology
Project's monthly rainfall updates.

"The next step toward firmly establishing this initial indication of a
long-term tropical rainfall trend is to continue to lengthen and
improve our data record," said Adler, who is project scientist of the
Tropical Rainfall Measuring Mission (TRMM), a joint effort between
NASA and the Japan Aerospace Exploration Agency. The satellite's
three primary instruments are providing the most detailed view of
rainfall ever provided from space. Since 1997, Adler's group has been
incorporating the mission's rainfall data into the global rainfall
record.

NASA plans to extend the success of monitoring rainfall over the
tropics to the entire globe with the Global Precipitation Measurement
mission, scheduled for launch in 2013. This international project
will measure both rain and snow around the world.

For related images and more information about this story, visit:

http://www.nasa.gov/centers/goddard/news/topstory/2007/rainfall_increase.html


-end-



Tropical Rainfall Measuring Mission: TRMM

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“Its happening.”

“Hope they check the math this time...LOL

http://www.thestar.com/printArticle/246027

Days later, it put out a revised list of all-time hottest years. The Dust Bowl year of 1934 now ranks as hottest ever in the U.S. – not 1998. ”

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Global Warming is STILL Good for You!

source: Newsweek, August 13, 2007

Five years ago in their book Trust Us We're Experts, CMD's Sheldon Rampton and John Stauber exposed the propaganda machine selling Americans the idea that global warming is good for us. Newsweek's Sharon Begley examines the current situation: "If you think those who have long challenged the mainstream scientific findings about global warming recognize that the game is over, think again. ... Since the late 1980s, this well-coordinated, well-funded campaign by contrarian scientists, free-market think tanks and industry has created a paralyzing fog of doubt around climate change…. Now they contend that the looming warming will be minuscule and harmless.

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“HAI!!1! IM IN YR POLR I SKAPS, MELTIN YR I SBURGS!!1”

“NEWSWEEK????MY GOD...wow you are scratching the bottom of the Barrel.

Hey Tilt I noticed its like 10 degrees cooler here than last week...think its the GLOBAL ICE AGE upon us...(LOL)?

Tilty...its UNPROVEN its a RELIGION you know it, the other socialists know it, thats why you will not stand by your recommendations and that is why everytime your "theory" is shot full of holes you race out to create a new study which is THEN shot full of holes.”

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Global Warming is STILL Good for You!

source: Newsweek, August 13, 2007

Five years ago in their book Trust Us We're Experts, CMD's Sheldon Rampton and John Stauber exposed the propaganda machine selling Americans the idea that global warming is good for us. Newsweek's Sharon Begley examines the current situation: "If you think those who have long challenged the mainstream scientific findings about global warming recognize that the game is over, think again. ... Since the late 1980s, this well-coordinated, well-funded campaign by contrarian scientists, free-market think tanks and industry has created a paralyzing fog of doubt around climate change…. Now they contend that the looming warming will be minuscule and harmless.

”

“1/4 of the the countryside of Greece burns every year, doesn't it?”

“Um...hill, I know you probably won't believe this...but I am thinking it is not ENVIORNMENTALLY hot enough to create a FIRE on the EARTH yet. I am thinking some HUMAN intervention here....”

“Greece fires are the worst when they're arson. The data exist, just find someone who pockets aren't being filled, to enterpret it.”

“Okay...Un...can you explain that? My Disgronifier is off...Thanks”

“Whos'?”

“Global Warming is STILL Good for You!

source: Newsweek, August 13, 2007

Five years ago in their book Trust Us We're Experts, CMD's Sheldon Rampton and John Stauber exposed the propaganda machine selling Americans the idea that global warming is good for us. Newsweek's Sharon Begley examines the current situation: "If you think those who have long challenged the mainstream scientific findings about global warming recognize that the game is over, think again. ... Since the late 1980s, this well-coordinated, well-funded campaign by contrarian scientists, free-market think tanks and industry has created a paralyzing fog of doubt around climate change…. Now they contend that the looming warming will be minuscule and harmless.

”
Tilt
8:40:09 AM
8/28/07




Wow.......what better way to prove that one propaganda machine is valid by pointing out an opposing propaganda machine. Okay! I'm finally on board!”

“I always crack up when I see 'Newsweek' cited as a source. It's no different than the Enquirer in my mind. I had a co-worker who used to come in with conspiracy theories all the time, ... almost all she surmised from reading Newsweek.”

“The extremes are always extreme. Do you all really have to post novels full of bug spots to say this. The MSM wants nothing to do with a 90 minute soccer game that ends (0,0).”

“SO the question I guess is 'how will this REALLY effect me"

I refer to a study by the CATO inst.

http://finance.senate.gov/hearings/testimony/2007test/052407testce.pdf-

Note the date of the testimony where it was suggested using IMPUTED RENT on homes that were "larger" than required.

Or better yet they endorse using IMPUTED rent amounts. Sayyou own a house that you bought and paid off well thats the end of those MAJOR monthly debt right? NOPE, the government wants to propose say looking at what you would pay to RENT the house (since not everyone can OWN a house) and figure that into your INCOME...(LOL)


Then you can follow the Breck Girl

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,294974,00.html

Wonder if he will dump his SUV's...?
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Michael Asher
August 29, 2007 11:07 AM
In 2004, history professor Naomi Oreskes performed a survey of research papers on climate change. Examining peer-reviewed papers published on the ISI Web of Science database from 1993 to 2003, she found a majority supported the "consensus view," defined as humans were having at least some effect on global climate change. Oreskes' work has been repeatedly cited, but as some of its data is now nearly 15 years old, its conclusions are becoming somewhat dated.

Medical researcher Dr. Klaus-Martin Schulte recently updated this research. Using the same database and search terms as Oreskes, he examined all papers published from 2004 to February 2007. The results have been submitted to the journal Energy and Environment, of which DailyTech has obtained a pre-publication copy. The figures are surprising.

Of 528 total papers on climate change, only 38 (7%) gave an explicit endorsement of the consensus. If one considers "implicit" endorsement (accepting the consensus without explicit statement), the figure rises to 45%. However, while only 32 papers (6%) reject the consensus outright, the largest category (48%) are neutral papers, refusing to either accept or reject the hypothesis. This is no "consensus."

The figures are even more shocking when one remembers the watered-down definition of consensus here. Not only does it not require supporting that man is the "primary" cause of warming, but it doesn't require any belief or support for "catastrophic" global warming. In fact of all papers published in this period (2004 to February 2007), only a single one makes any reference to climate change leading to catastrophic results.

These changing viewpoints represent the advances in climate science over the past decade. While today we are even more certain the earth is warming, we are less certain about the root causes. More importantly, research has shown us that -- whatever the cause may be -- the amount of warming is unlikely to cause any great calamity for mankind or the planet itself.

Schulte's survey contradicts the United Nation IPCC's Fourth Assessment Report (2007), which gave a figure of "90% likely" man was having an impact on world temperatures. But does the IPCC represent a consensus view of world scientists? Despite media claims of "thousands of scientists" involved in the report, the actual text is written by a much smaller number of "lead authors." The introductory "Summary for Policymakers" -- the only portion usually quoted in the media -- is written not by scientists at all, but by politicians, and approved, word-by-word, by political representatives from member nations. By IPCC policy, the individual report chapters -- the only text actually written by scientists -- are edited to "ensure compliance" with the summary, which is typically published months before the actual report itself.

By contrast, the ISI Web of Science database covers 8,700 journals and publications, including every leading scientific journal in the world.”

“My question is this...Is it possible that some of these "experts" have invested so much of their careers in the Global Warming Religion that they may SKEW the numbers in such a way as to make some of the evidence meet their estimates.

For instance say tropical disturbances...is it not possible that they would add a couple of miles an hour here or there to push the Hurricane to the next level to meet the 17 prediction?

If they do and they get caught ....what will be the punishment?”

“They've been caught fudging the numbers in the past - including the report that was used to justify the Kyoto treaty.

"Oops!" - that's all that happened

Of course, not much on the news about that one!”

“"If they do and they get caught ....what will be the punishment?"
XLax

Perhaps having to listen to your incessant prattle about so many things about which you know so little.”

“I love it Marky mark and his libby buddies want DEATH for Republicans accused of NOTHING but if one of their libby sychophants gets caught in a plan that will essentially destroy our nation...they become Emily Litella.”

“The plan to destroy our nation is in Surge Mode and approaching report card time. The report card should resemble a Violin post when issued.”

“LOL...not what I am hearing...but then you guys ain't been right yet...”

“
Global Warming is STILL Good for You!

source: Newsweek, August 13, 2007

Five years ago in their book Trust Us We're Experts, CMD's Sheldon Rampton and John Stauber exposed the propaganda machine selling Americans the idea that global warming is good for us. Newsweek's Sharon Begley examines the current situation: "If you think those who have long challenged the mainstream scientific findings about global warming recognize that the game is over, think again. ... Since the late 1980s, this well-coordinated, well-funded campaign by contrarian scientists, free-market think tanks and industry has created a paralyzing fog of doubt around climate change…. Now they contend that the looming warming will be minuscule and harmless.

”

“Wait a second here, wasn't last year supposed to be the killer storm season and jack squat happened?”

“Stay tuned, I guess.

Even short term weather prediction can be less than accurate.

Meanwhile, life goes on and this old world keeps on turning.”