Global Warming

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““GOD DAMN IT KEVIN, WHY THE HELL DO YOU HAVE TO F UP EVERY THREAD...F'ING STOP IT! We don't want to hear politics or feugo every time you feel like butting in b!tch
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5:22:03 PM
8/10/09
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“WOW haywood is that a half a roll of Certs in your pocket or are you just happy?”

“It's all lies. Those lying eskimos.

TUKTOYAKTUK, Northwest Territories � The Arctic Ocean has given up tens of thousands more square miles (square kilometers) of ice on Sunday in a relentless summer of melt, with scientists watching through satellite eyes for a possible record low polar ice cap.

From the barren Arctic shore of this village in Canada's far northwest, 1,500 miles (2,414 kilometers) north of Seattle, veteran observer Eddie Gruben has seen the summer ice retreating more each decade as the world has warmed. By this weekend the ice edge lay some 80 miles (128 kilometers) at sea.

"Forty years ago, it was 40 miles (64 kilometers) out," said Gruben, 89, patriarch of a local contracting business.

Global average temperatures rose 1 degree Fahrenheit (0.6 degree Celsius) in the past century, but Arctic temperatures rose twice as much or even faster, almost certainly in good part because of manmade greenhouse gases, researchers say.

In late July the mercury soared to almost 86 degrees Fahrenheit (30 degrees Celsius) in this settlement of 900 Inuvialuit, the name for western Arctic Eskimos.

"The water was really warm," Gruben said. "The kids were swimming in the ocean."

As of Thursday, the U.S. National Snow and Ice Data Center reported, the polar ice cap extended over 2.61 million square miles (6.75 million square kilometers) after having shrunk an average 41,000 square miles (106,000 square kilometers) a day in July -- equivalent to one Indiana or three Belgiums daily.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090810/ap_on_sc/cn_canada_ice_retreats”

“It's obvious you haven't been listening to the TT Science Committee.”

“record low polar ice cap.

Good - the Russians had it right 50 years ago anyway - the ice cap is a relic of the last ice age. Simply sprinkle coal dust on the rest of it, and welcome in a verdant, ice-free arctic, and its resources!
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“Hello beachfront Las Vegas!”

“yeah I guess you'd really only want to melt the floating ice...”

“last 10 years, 98-08
average global temperatures
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still nothing ...”

“Here comes the science:

...almost certainly in good part because of manmade greenhouse gases, researchers say.”

“I though you guys said it was getting cooler?”

“did you people see that documentary where they found old photos of glaciers/mountains and then hiked into the backcountry to find the same location? they had a hard time identifying the handful of mountain they went after, but they did find them -and- the same spot the original photo was taken. then they put up the old photo and a new photo side by side. it was obviously the same mountain and the same vantage point... large rock structures (gendarme, boulders, peaks, etc) were unchanged. what HAD changed were the glaciers. the mountains looked naked.

i can't find photos on the internet from the show, but they were similar to this one:

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“I remember when the glaciers receeded from this area.....left behind nothing but a few thousand useless lakes. Sucked big time.”

“It's awesome that all that useless snow and ice is out of the way now. More room for animals to roam and people to build homes.”

“it was a cool show.”

“I love the little animals---especially the caribou.”

“Build on it, then when the great Anti-Warming Ice Age covers it, we will all ski and pee all over you.”

“Or like when the glaciers receeded and we found ancient mining tools...meaning..WAIT it had BEEN WARM there once before?”

“Orrrrrr, Space-glacier Robots used to colonize the glaciers.”

“Maybe it was Susquatch, an ancient version of man? Maybe that's why they found all those frozen bananas.”

“Dan knows as much about Atmospheric Physics and Chemistry as Beck knows about Healthcare Policy.”

“So, you watch Beck much then, do ya?”

“The US is in trouble when this years Katina is being made in Taiwan.”

“ Oil Lobby's 'Energy Citizens' Astroturf Campaign Exposed











They Are SOOOOooooooooooooo BUSTED.

And Greenpeace Reacts�.

Greenpeace action calls out climate fraud and astroturfing funded by Big Oil


I think I�ll rent Bob Roberts (1992) this weekend.... Maybe do a double feature with Network (1976) and reminisce about the Good Old Days when crap like this was Fiction.

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“They Are SOOOOooooooooooooo BUSTED.

And Greenpeace Reacts�.

Greenpeace action calls out climate fraud and astroturfing funded by Big Oil



I think I�ll rent Bob Roberts (1992) this weekend.... Maybe do a double feature with Network (1976) and reminisce about the Good Old Days when crap like this was Fiction.

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Tllt
12:49:16 PM
8/19/09




(very teeny tiny quiet bwhahahahahahaha to all of that so Y2 doesn't hear me.)”

“There's your "Republican Grassroots" in action.

I wonder how many Health Insurance Industry Employees are being mobilised by the Teabaggers?”

“Gorebal Warming is no longer a "religion" today its a superstition”

“You all are ASTRODIRTBAGS- the superstition is left to the creator's sheep. While on the creator, why can't he build people that don't need all this health care. Darwin has a solution to problems like that.

Have some intellectual honesty by specifying the Gore Greenhouse Theory and leave the proven direct theories out of your hacks.
last edited: 8/19/09 10:29:19 AM”

“This flavor of teabag has been whipped into a frenzy even though the industries are already set to get their cap-and-trade allowances at unbelievable discounts.

By hook or by crook, the American Petroleum Institute and their ilk will get the Little People all sweaty and breathless (and plastered all over that "Liberal Media" LOL) and possibly improve the industries' bargaining position slightly as they come down the stretch. Every little bit of improved leverage translates into billions on their bottom lines.

Not that these protestors will ever see a nickel of it.... except the 'protestors' who work for Royal Dutch Shell, etc.... [cue the laughtrack]

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“LOL...RULE #12”

“How's that Flat Earth thing working out for you? Fallen over the edge yet?”

“My dragon is still hungry.”

“ROTFLMAO....GREENPEACE....TILTY...the religion is Dying...

http://bighollywood.breitbart.com/amcelhinney/2009/08/19/exclusive-lies-revealed-greenpeace-leader-admits-arctic-ice-exaggeration/

The outgoing leader of Greenpeace has admitted his organization�s recent claim that the Arctic Ice will disappear by 2030 was �a mistake.� Greenpeace made the claim in a July 15 press release entitled �Urgent Action Needed As Arctic Ice Melts,� which said there will be an ice-free Arctic by 2030 because of global warming.

Under close questioning by BBC reporter Stephen Sackur on the �Hardtalk� program, Gerd Leipold, the retiring leader of Greenpeace, said the claim was wrong.

�I don�t think it will be melting by 2030. � That may have been a mistake,� he said.”

“Have we all died yet?”

“Even people that aren't republicans make mistakes.”

“Everyone knows Greenpeace is funded by Big Ice.”

“NON..I heard it was Big Sand. Since more ice meant less sand and that made sand more valuable. (LOL)”

“Given the craziness I've seen here over the years, I'll bet you can find Rebublicans this very day who will swear the Sun orbits the Earth.”

“Well this is going to be a kick in the groin for you Libbies.

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/226/story/74019.html

According to data from the National Space Science and Technology Center in Huntsville, Ala., the global high temperature in 1998 was 0.76 degrees Celsius (1.37 degrees Fahrenheit) above the average for the previous 20 years.

So far this year, the high has been 0.42 degrees Celsius (0.76 degrees Fahrenheit), above the 20-year average, clearly cooler than before.

However, scientists say the skeptics' argument is misleading.

"It's entirely possible to have a period as long as a decade or two of cooling superimposed on the long-term warming trend," said David Easterling, chief of scientific services at NOAA's National Climatic Data Center in Asheville, N.C.

"These short term fluctuations are statistically insignificant (and) entirely due to natural internal variability," Easterling said in an essay published in the journal Geophysical Research Letters in April. "It's easy to 'cherry pick' a period to reinforce a point of view."

Climate experts say the 1998 record was partly caused by El Nino, a periodic warming of tropical Pacific Ocean waters that affects the climate worldwide.

"The temperature peak in 1998 to a large extent can be attributed to the very strong El Nino event of 1997-98," Bond said. "Temperatures for the globe as a whole tend to be higher during El Nino, and particularly events as intense as that one."

TRANSLATION: Even the scientists don't know how the weather will be...LOL”

“Ah, the Thug imagery ---- you really are a redneck to the hilt.



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“When the snow and ice are gone I'm finally gonna apply for that polar bear tag.”

“I'm going to wait and see what happens, but in the mean time, I'll say how nice it is to have a dozen or so Stovies all passing their days filling the pages of TT with such wisdom.”

“While I am certain (as least it would seem from the aggregate internet mindset) that people have not warmed the atmosphere, still, it seems to be warming and now great plumes of methane are belching from Artic lands and waters which will soon bring about unbelievable consequences, like a planet where most plantlife is suddenly not within a region where it can grow.

But, people didn't do it, it's not our fault and there's not a thing that can be done about it, right?

"Party on, Garth." "I think I will, Wayne."
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“WHOOPS...seems the predicton from the UNITED NATIONS that we must accomplish the Gorebal Warming scam in the next 4 months is now very accurate. Apparently its losing steam faster than the presBO.”

“ 'is now very accurate' At least learn how to lie if you're going to do it.”

“WASHINGTON � Steve Kramer spent an hour and a half swimming in the ocean Sunday � in Maine. The water temperature was 72 degrees � more like Ocean City, Md., this time of year. And Ocean City's water temp hit 88 degrees this week, toasty even by Miami Beach standards.

Kramer, 26, who lives in the seaside town of Scarborough, said it was the first time he's ever swam so long in Maine's coastal waters. "Usually, you're in five minutes and you're out," he said.

It's not just the ocean off the Northeast coast that is super-warm this summer. July was the hottest the world's oceans have been in almost 130 years of record-keeping.

The average water temperature worldwide was 62.6 degrees, according to the National Climatic Data Center, the branch of the U.S. government that keeps world weather records. June was only slightly cooler, while August could set another record, scientists say. The previous record was set in July 1998 during a powerful El Nino weather pattern.

Meteorologists said there's a combination of forces at work: A natural El Nino system just getting started on top of worsening man-made global warming, and a dash of random weather variations. The resulting ocean heat is already harming threatened coral reefs. It could also hasten the melting of Arctic sea ice and help hurricanes strengthen.

The Gulf of Mexico, where warm water fuels hurricanes, has temperatures dancing around 90. Most of the water in the Northern Hemisphere has been considerably warmer than normal. The Mediterranean is about three degrees warmer than normal. Higher temperatures rule in the Pacific and Indian Oceans.

The heat is most noticeable near the Arctic, where water temperatures are as much as 10 degrees above average. The tongues of warm water could help melt sea ice from below and even cause thawing of ice sheets on Greenland, said Waleed Abdalati, director of the Earth Science and Observation Center at the University of Colorado.

Breaking heat records in water is more ominous as a sign of global warming than breaking temperature marks on land, because water takes longer to heat up and does not cool off as easily as land.

"This warm water we're seeing doesn't just disappear next year; it'll be around for a long time," said climate scientist Andrew Weaver of the University of Victoria in British Columbia. It takes five times more energy to warm water than land.

The warmer water "affects weather on the land," Weaver said. "This is another yet really important indicator of the change that's occurring."

Georgia Institute of Technology atmospheric science professor Judith Curry said water is warming in more places than usual, something that has not been seen in more than 50 years.

Add to that an unusual weather pattern this summer where the warmest temperatures seem to be just over oceans, while slightly cooler air is concentrated over land, said Deke Arndt, head of climate monitoring at the climate data center.

The pattern is so unusual that he suggested meteorologists may want to study that pattern to see what's behind it.

The effects of that warm water are already being seen in coral reefs, said C. Mark Eakin, coordinator of the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration's coral reef watch. Long-term excessive heat bleaches colorful coral reefs white and sometimes kills them.

Bleaching has started to crop up in the Florida Keys, Puerto Rico and the Virgin Islands � much earlier than usual. Typically, bleaching occurs after weeks or months of prolonged high water temperatures. That usually means September or October in the Caribbean, said Eakin. He found bleaching in Guam Wednesday. It's too early to know if the coral will recover or die. Experts are "bracing for another bad year," he said.

The problems caused by the El Nino pattern are likely to get worse, the scientists say.

An El Nino occurs when part of the central Pacific warms up, which in turn changes weather patterns worldwide for many months. El Nino and its cooling flip side, La Nina, happen every few years.

During an El Nino, temperatures on water and land tend to rise in many places, leading to an increase in the overall global average temperature. An El Nino has other effects, too, including dampening Atlantic hurricane formation and increasing rainfall and mudslides in Southern California.

Warm water is a required fuel for hurricanes. What's happening in the oceans "will add extra juice to the hurricanes," Curry said.

Hurricane activity has been quiet for much of the summer, but that may change soon, she said. Hurricane Bill quickly became a major storm and the National Hurricane Center warned that warm waters are along the path of the hurricane for the next few days.

Hurricanes need specific air conditions, so warmer water alone does not necessarily mean more or bigger storms, said James Franklin, chief hurricane specialist at the National Hurricane Center in Miami.
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“And mankind can CAUSE and El Nino? I thought that was planet controlled....”

“It doesn't have the first clue.”

“Wait...so the Planet..doesn't ahve a clue? SO tilty where is all the "The Earthy is Angry" crap coming from?”

“Why are Republicans to intent on wrecking the environment?

Because they make money doing it.

It's just like their pals in the healthcare industry. There's money to be made and that IS the bottom line. People get hurt ---- so what.

That's just the sort of people they are.

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