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check this out, veeery interesting ...

http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2009/11/scientific_scandal_appears_to.html

A hacker has gotten into the computers at Hadley CRU, Britain's largest climate research institute and a proponent of global warming, and seems to have uncovered evidence of substantial fraud in reporting the "evidence" on global warming; the unlawful destruction of records to cover up this fraud ,conspiracy,and deceit in the entire operation.
last edited: 11/20/09 10:07:36 AM
HighPlainsDrifter
10:06:49 AM
11/20/09

Global Warming .... THE TRUTH BEHIND THE SCAM

Hot water. Did you know this would happen; the flood, lawsuits and BS of the insurance companies? Denial strikes deep and into your heart it will creep.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/03/21/us/21suit.html

Gawd or man-made?
last edited: 11/21/09 10:33:39 AM
salebored
10:28:04 AM
11/21/09

Stovie
7:24:07 AM
11/30/09

As usual, Boortz sums it up very well. Please read this...

http://boortz.com/nealz_nuze/2009/11/the-climate-change-circus.html

Not a peep out of the Lamestream Media on this GIGANTIC SCANDAL! ! !
stratd00d
8:02:27 AM
11/30/09

blogs are always a good source of reliable, objective analysis ~wink~
crash bang
8:10:42 AM
11/30/09

what's wrong with a blog? where would you recommend for an objective analysis?
HighPlainsDrifter
8:17:25 AM
11/30/09

The COLDANDFLATEARTHERS and BIRTHERS seem to fill all three rings of the circus lately.
salebored
9:05:24 AM
11/30/09

lonely salebored sets the record for most insults on trailtalk

Nothing else in your bag of licks?

Get it? I used a pun. How proud of myself I must feel!
HighPlainsDrifter
9:16:35 AM
11/30/09

whats wrong with a pun? where would you recommend for an objective statement?
crash bang
9:28:18 AM
11/30/09


I'm not the one criticizing others for using a commentary as something that is not objective. Where would YOU recommend finding an objective commentary? I've never heard of such a thing, so please enlighten us.
HighPlainsDrifter
9:35:18 AM
11/30/09

Thanks for the honor. Watching you flat earthers follow the same scam that Gore did is very entertaining. Where is your ladder to climb down in the hole?
salebored
9:36:15 AM
11/30/09

someplace with a lot less political buzzwords and phrases
crash bang
9:36:54 AM
11/30/09

NPR
Yogisan
9:38:28 AM
11/30/09

noeeeees theyre COMMMMMMIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

Moar liek Nationalist Commie Propaganda, amirite?
crash bang
9:40:17 AM
11/30/09

“someplace with a lot less political buzzwords and phrases”
crash bang


Ok, where?

“NPR”
Yogisan


LOL! That's awesome! Good one.
HighPlainsDrifter
9:41:30 AM
11/30/09

When even Gawd and Faq or facts can not be trusted, isn`t it time for all to get busted?
salebored
10:18:18 AM
11/30/09

Ok, where?

thats up to you to find, if youre going to take a solid position for or against something. its not up to me to find your sources for you

keep in mind, i dont disagree with your position on global warming.
crash bang
11:30:03 AM
11/30/09

keep in mind, I am not taking a position on finding an objective commentary. to me, they are subjective, by definition. you are the one who made the criticism, not me.

If there is no such thing, just say so and let's move on so we can all get to reading strat's commentary without objection.
HighPlainsDrifter
11:32:56 AM
11/30/09

HPD thinks if you`re not with the oil-coal lobby, then you`re sitting on Al`s lap.
salebored
12:18:28 PM
11/30/09

Yeah, that is what I think salebored. Now watch t.v. so mommy can do the dishes.
HighPlainsDrifter
12:27:12 PM
11/30/09

Not a peep out of the Lamestream Media on this GIGANTIC SCANDAL! ! !”
stratd00d
11:02:27 AM
11/30/09

This is kind of silly. I suppose it came from the same source that told you that 10.2% unemployment is the highest since Carter. Please do a little research before you base your reality on what Beck and Boortz tell you.

Boortz says you wouldn't know about the emails if you relied on the New York Times. Well, it has been in the times a few times. I've also heard it on NPR and seen it on network television. So yeah, there have been more than a few peeps in the mainstream media.

If we followed the logic of the folks that think the emails constitute a "gigantic scandal" that exposes exposes global warming as a hoax, then we have to conclude from this that all global warming skeptics are either liars, or intellectually lazy folks bent on repeating misinformation in the most inflamed and overblown manner possible.
pedxing
1:14:45 PM
11/30/09

this isn't equivalent to 'all gw skeptics' - this is the top dog of global warming data analysis
HighPlainsDrifter
1:44:24 PM
11/30/09

East Anglia is "the top dog."
pedxing
1:57:37 PM
11/30/09

I meant to make that a question.
pedxing
2:30:22 PM
11/30/09

the CRU of the EAU used their data - the CRU is the top dog.
HighPlainsDrifter
2:33:48 PM
11/30/09

Ok peddy, well if this is Bush`s recession like all the lefties claim, that that was Carter`s recession...RIGHT?

Can you tell me when and where it was in the NYT?

Let me draw you an analogy....let us say that some republican was driving around and talking on his cell phone to another republican about some really dicey stuff and some random democrat activist somehow mysteriously recorded the conversation and then gave it to a prominent democrat ...the next morning it was on the front page of the NYT and every other liberal rag, it led every single newscast from the networks and even your NPR. You know what I`m talking about and it`a perfectly illustrates my point.

Now Ped, I respect you because you seem to be honest...so can you not see the double standard at work here? I could do the research for you but you wouldn`t believe me so I won`t waste my time but it can be proven, it`s quantifiable. Look it up and you`ll see that the lamestreamers are very liberal and omit a lot of news that goes against their progressive agenda

The e-mails in question prove that the people, the so called scientist, who are shaping the policies that will cripple America, have been purposely manipulating the data to suit a political agenda. They can therefore not be trusted and by definition,are liars.....yes, I said liars. Bigtime. People who lie are liars....and you put your future in those hands?

WHY!
stratd00d
2:49:30 PM
11/30/09

I could do the research for you but you wouldn`t believe me

it can be proven, it`s quantifiable. Look it up and you`ll see that the lamestreamers are very liberal and omit a lot of news that goes against their progressive agenda

and you know this, how? you just said you wont do the research
crash bang
4:08:27 PM
11/30/09

oopsie, accidentawy weft off two words
HighPlainsDrifter
4:10:15 PM
11/30/09

Crash....I know because I dont depend on NPR, CBS, MSNBC, CNN, ABC, NYT or The Daily Show for all of my news

Ped seemed to indicate that this scandal isnt real because theres no motive for some of the worlds leading climatologists to hide the raw data from us...Its easy, follow the money;


http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703939404574566124250205490.html
stratd00d
7:27:21 AM
12/01/09

Over the years, which side has spent the most money lying to americans? "I can find no evidence that oil is addictive."
salebored
7:38:15 AM
12/01/09

So Strat or HPD or anyone else. What exactly do you think the emails prove?
pedxing
8:09:44 AM
12/01/09

I think it is INCREASINGLY clear that no matter what evidence is presented against global warming, even to the extent of disproving the reliability of the source data, there are those of you that will always believe.
HighPlainsDrifter
8:55:25 AM
12/01/09

Nonconformist
9:21:14 AM
12/01/09

theres no motive for some of the worlds leading climatologists to hide the raw hide bone from us....

Truer words.............
MarkO
9:27:26 AM
12/01/09

... except for the money part.
HighPlainsDrifter
9:32:20 AM
12/01/09

...and the academic arrogance part.
Mutt
9:33:56 AM
12/01/09

... and the stupidhead part.
HighPlainsDrifter
9:36:40 AM
12/01/09

interesting point: the scientists are not the ones upset that the data is lost; they are the ones that are upset that it was found out that the data was lost.
HighPlainsDrifter
9:43:57 AM
12/01/09

...and they are the ones who hid the data

theres your answer, pedxing

You have to be willing to find the truth and stick to it, no matter what the truth may turn out to be or what youve always to be the truth. Its a sham. Thats what the emails prove. They are manipulating the data and disposing of the REAL data. Thats what the emails prove. They cant be trusted because they have been caught red-handed.

The truth. Its all that matters. We live in a universe of lies and when it all comes crashing down, which side will you choose? The cool side? The popular side? The NPR side?

Ill be on the side of the truth. Hope to see you there sometime....
stratd00d
11:01:01 AM
12/01/09

baaaaaaahahahahahahaha!
pepsisformosa
11:01:55 AM
12/01/09

First November on record that the Detroit area hasnt had a bit of snow. Not a flake. Temps averaged around 50 too.
Sassafras
11:06:14 AM
12/01/09

Al Gore will not be pleased.
Stovie
11:14:55 AM
12/01/09

Stovie
12:01:22 PM
12/01/09

I say we nuke D.C. while congress is in session. The reduction of all that hot air should decrease global temperatures.
lumberzac
12:25:28 PM
12/01/09

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D9CAM0VG0&show_article=1

CLIMATEGATE: UK scientist to temporarily step down...
Stovie
12:48:54 PM
12/01/09

but, there is no scandal - he just stepped down for family reasons, I'm sure.
HighPlainsDrifter
12:56:55 PM
12/01/09

So, are the anti-climate change peeps also not in favor of reduction of use of finite natural resources?
roseymonster
12:57:27 PM
12/01/09

haha - here we go with the game changer ...

This "anti-climate peep" is NOT in favor of the government pretending like we are doomed and making us pay for the lie.

From my point of view, your question is 100% irrelevant for this discussion.

This has always been about the government LIE.

I think the market should determine what resources we use.
last edited: 12/01/09 1:02:48 PM
HighPlainsDrifter
1:01:42 PM
12/01/09

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