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mhm that was fun
HighPlainsDrifter
2:22:17 PM
12/09/09

it's funny, cuz in your mind, you made it about me. i usually argue on the "silly libbie" side, so you were predispositioned to think i was arguing for man-made global warming, despite the fact that i had already stated that i wasnt

you never said as much, but it is obvious that you are predispositioned to assume that i am arguing from the "silly libbie" POV. and we're all susceptible to that.
crash bang
2:26:59 PM
12/09/09

Why don`t you quit muddying the water?
stratd00d
2:27:57 PM
12/09/09

again, huh?
it's funny, cuz in your mind, you made it about me. i usually argue on the "silly libbie" side, so you were predispositioned to think i was arguing for man-made global warming, despite the fact that i had already stated that i wasnt


What are you talking about? Where did you get that from?
HighPlainsDrifter
2:28:39 PM
12/09/09

from this statement:

If you want to claim they are right, global warming is man-made and happening, even though they admit to making it up .... go right ahead
crash bang
2:31:53 PM
12/09/09

Who`s on first?
roseymonster
2:32:50 PM
12/09/09

crash - I don't know what you're referring to. All I have been doing is defending myself from when you accused me of using a fallacy, of which you won't provide specifics. Where you got this silly libbie thing and this assumption that I knew what "side" you took, I honestly do not have a clue what you are referring to. I'm open to reading any posts you want to provide, but up to this point, it seems to me like you're just randomly accusing me of things.
HighPlainsDrifter
2:33:08 PM
12/09/09

“from this statement:

If you want to claim they are right, global warming is man-made and happening, even though they admit to making it up .... go right ahead”
crash bang
2:31:53 PM
12/09/09


Ok, we are making headway. Now, what about it?
HighPlainsDrifter
2:33:58 PM
12/09/09

i dont have time or inclination to find the post, but if i did, it would be more concrete, which, of course, would lead to a much longer discussion about it that i care to have. i have to take an algebra quiz now
crash bang
2:35:13 PM
12/09/09

i think "not knowing your own case" is a logical fallacy too
HighPlainsDrifter
2:41:46 PM
12/09/09

watch this

Let`sargue about religion- constructive.
salebored
3:52:50 PM
12/09/09

think "not knowing your own case" is a logical fallacy too

are you going to deny that youve ever said "dont criticize the person"? just because i dont remember where your post is doesnt make it not exist. do your keys stop existing when you forgot where you left them?
crash bang
3:58:49 PM
12/09/09

no i don't deny saying that at all - but i deny using it in an incorrect way, and i suggest you used it incorrectly

if a person lies, saying his lies are insubmissable is not a fallacy
HighPlainsDrifter
4:09:48 PM
12/09/09

I just can`t believe how much knowledge many of you have about something that doesn`t exist, do you have a book that taught you how to do that?
salebored
4:51:01 AM
12/10/09

do you have a book that teaches you to offer nothing but criticisms of others, and no solutions?
HighPlainsDrifter
4:53:36 AM
12/10/09

"we can't account for the lack of warming at the moment and it is a travesty that we can't."

- a Climategate "scientist"
HighPlainsDrifter
5:08:56 AM
12/10/09

Domething keeping you from being able to see the solution?
salebored
5:31:12 AM
12/10/09

I have the solution. I've posted my opinions. All you EVER do is criticize others for having an opinion.

Dumbthing keeping you from seeing that?
HighPlainsDrifter
5:33:07 AM
12/10/09

You have just accused me of doing what you have done with every post you have made to this thread.
salebored
6:07:44 AM
12/10/09

Not true. I am not here criticizing fellow posters for their viewpoints. I am debating and discussing and offering reasons for my beliefs.

You are only criticizing fellow trailtalkers. That is all that you do on this site.

In fact, the rare times I make mention of fellow trailtalkers, I ask them for an explanation of their viewpoints.
last edited: 12/10/09 6:11:42 AM
HighPlainsDrifter
6:09:46 AM
12/10/09

Only people that believe in Santa Claus spend so much time debunking something that was obviously science fiction from it`s conception.
salebored
6:24:29 AM
12/10/09

1. Not if the government is using the Santa Claus claim to justify excess spending and destruction of basic human rights.

2. There you go again.
HighPlainsDrifter
6:28:40 AM
12/10/09

Copenhagen climate summit: global warming "caused by sun`s radiation"

Global warming is caused by radiation from the sun, according to a leading scientist speaking out at an alternative "sceptics conference" in Copenhagen.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/copenhagen-climate-change-confe/6762640/Copenhagen-climate-summit-global-warming-caused-by-suns-radiation.html
stratd00d
6:28:51 AM
12/10/09

Now, why didn`t the warmers think of the sun.

I`m not the one going, Mr. Reagan.
salebored
9:10:35 AM
12/10/09


"Every day, over 6 billion humans and an untold number of puppies, kittens, and other animals produce large quantities of this ubiquitous gas" (The ubiquitous gas being CO2). "Should they be required to stop breathing? And every day, trees, flowers, shrubs, and other flora use carbon dioxide to sustain their own existence. Liberals are supposedly more plant-friendly than the rest of us, so why would they try to limit a gas that is essential for plant life? If the rainforests could speak, would they be stunned by this betrayal?"
nimrod
5:07:28 AM
12/11/09

kangaroos don't fart
HighPlainsDrifter
5:08:34 AM
12/11/09

HPD...thank you so much for that pleasant information but trust me Aussies moooooooooooore than make up for it...(LOL)
theXL400
6:17:15 AM
12/11/09

Well, finally some global wetting set in on my stinkin' desert. The first real rain (like dripping off the roof) in 3 1/2 years fell for 45 minutes last night. Keep up the good farting all you rocket scientist.
salebored
7:31:32 AM
12/11/09

See?

gases that scientists claim in their hoax cause global warming, exist

no kidding
HighPlainsDrifter
8:26:27 AM
12/11/09

salebored, if/when the s#it hits the fan, you're going to be screwed living in a place that inhospitable.
Mutt
8:57:02 AM
12/11/09

Earthquake is the big fear living on a huge aquifer, but so few people in a 25 mile radius is fine with me.
salebored
9:12:53 AM
12/11/09


In the middle east they cut your hand off for stealing e-mail. Back to counting tree rings;1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9...LOL
salebored
2:43:34 PM
12/11/09

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2010478324_cold11m.html

Seattle has record lows for second day in row
HighPlainsDrifter
5:46:11 PM
12/11/09


http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE5BD4D020091214?feedType=RSS&feedName=environmentNews&rpc=22&sp=true

as I said above, When I see hypocrisy in the very movement trying to scare us...it makes it a bit hard to believe.

Delegates, journalists, activists and observers from almost 200 countries have gathered at the Dec 7-18 summit and their travel and work will create 46,200 tonnes of carbon dioxide, most of it from their flights.

This would fill nearly 10,000 Olympic swimming pools, and is the same amount produced each year by 2,300 Americans or 660,000 Ethiopians -- the vast difference is due to the huge gap in consumption patterns in the two countries -- according to U.S. government statistics about per person emissions in 2006.

Despite efforts by the Danish government to reduce the conference's carbon footprint, around 5,700 tonnes of carbon dioxide will be created by the summit and a further 40,500 tonnes created by attendees' flights to Copenhagen.

The figure for the flights was calculated by the United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change (UNFCCC), while the domestic carbon footprint from the summit was calculated by accountants Deloitte, said Deloitte consultant Stine Balslev.

"This is much bigger than the last talks because there are many more people here," she said, adding that 18,000 people were expected to pass through the conference center every day.
theXL400
1:46:02 PM
12/14/09

... and's nothing compared to flying 30,000 and crap for more to Afghanis-a-stain.
salebored
6:56:28 PM
12/14/09

YES..Dems push that Gorbal Warming crap...push it...

http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2009/12/11/politics/politicalhotsheet/entry5968412.shtml

A majority of Americans (70 percent) do consider global warming to be a "serious problem." But nearly two in three either see it as "not serious" (23 percent overall) or a serious problem but not a high priority (33 percent).

In April of 2007, just 8 percent of Americans said global warming was not serious.
theXL400
5:36:43 AM
12/15/09

OH YES!!!!


I SMELL LAWSUIT....
http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2009/12/15/inconvenient-truth-gore-claims-dont-add/

There are many kinds of truth. Al Gore was hit by an inconvenient one yesterday.

The former vice president, who became an unlikely figurehead for the green movement after narrating the Oscar-winning documentary "An Inconvenient Truth," became entangled in a new climate change row.

Gore, speaking at the Copenhagen climate change summit, stated the latest research showed that the Arctic could be completely ice-free in five years.

In his speech, Gore told the conference: "These figures are fresh. Some of the models suggest to Dr. [Wieslav] Maslowski that there is a 75 percent chance that the entire north polar ice cap, during the summer months, could be completely ice-free within five to seven years."

However, the climatologist whose work Gore was relying upon dropped the former vice president in the water with an icy blast.

"It's unclear to me how this figure was arrived at," Dr. Maslowski said. "I would never try to estimate likelihood at anything as exact as this."

Gore's office later admitted that the 75 percent figure was one used by Dr. Maslowski as a "ballpark figure" several years ago in a conversation with Gore.

The embarrassing error cast another shadow over the conference after the controversy over the hacked e-mails from the University of East Anglia's Climate Research Unit, which appeared to suggest that scientists had manipulated data to strengthen their argument that human activities were causing global warming.
theXL400
5:44:26 AM
12/15/09

Stovie
4:56:21 PM
12/15/09

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-LkXZzaybE&feature=player_embedded[/url

Check out Al gore dodging an inconvenient reporter at the Copenhagen airport. One of the UN goons unplugs the reporter's mic.

How can anyone take this assclown seriously?
stratd00d
6:47:15 AM
12/16/09


Stewart loves to hate. Hate is funny.
HighPlainsDrifter
10:49:00 AM
12/16/09

All the usual GW hangouts are shaded by contrails and puppy dog tails.
salebored
11:34:45 AM
12/16/09

http://video.foxnews.com/12579645/challenging-the-data

The true nature of the libs exposed here. The true desire of them to hide the truth.
HighPlainsDrifter
6:09:37 PM
12/16/09

It's sure looking like alot of pre- Iraq War warm ups. I'm surprised Colin Powell hasn't come out to the UN with a story of seeing some islands fitted with nukes sinking secretly into the warm rising sea.
salebored
6:27:27 PM
12/16/09

You know when you assess the full picture painted by the data that is available and consider both sides of the issue; you can't help but draw the conclusion that its George Bush's fought.
trailhound57
6:11:51 AM
12/17/09

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