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Euro...um did you read the article?

The Swiss Institute for Snow and Avalanche Research said the avalanche risk in the area was 'moderate' at the time. Avalanche forecaster Christine Pielmeier said today the danger level had been raised to 'considerable' because further heavy snowfall was expected

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1240319/As-Britain-told-expect-snow-10-days-rest-world-coping-Arctic-weather.html#ixzz0bgL24JRB


Its snowing and unexpectedly cold in Austria, Germany and Russia....
theXL400
1:37:43 PM
1/04/10

Stovie
8:54:02 PM
1/04/10

XL... um maybe for a Georgia boy cold temps around -2°C (not °F!) are cold and unusual, but for around here it’s downright balmy for winter temps in January. Last weeks cold spell and snowfalls in Germany, Switzerland, Austria are hardly average and not unusual at all for this time of year. So far this winter has been pretty mild.
XL, your source is dailymail.co.uk. Pleeaaze, what do the Brits now about winter? Trust me on this, the Brits break into fully fledge mass hysteria if they see a stray snowflake falling out of the sky. I have been living with them for three years. One winter morning there was less than half an inch of snow on the roads and in the back yards. The radio was announcing school closures and telling people to stay at home. When I came into the office my colleagues were talking about “the blizzard”.

And hey… it’s snowing right now :-9
Euro hike
2:40:22 AM
1/05/10

Looks to me like the weather men(women) are all becoming 'Coolies'? The cold's gona getcha if the terrorist don't.
salebored
8:11:38 AM
1/05/10

Ape...can you provide examples? <------ XL

No, that's why I offered the service to HPD, hehe...

Its snowing and unexpectedly cold in Austria, Germany and Russia....” <--------- XL

OK, now that's 100% horse doodoo. You are talking about the Bavarian Alps and Russia. But I'll politely accept a finger for not bothering to look up any examples.

Yeah nimrod that was up in summa Gore's graphics too, but I ain't on here saying Gore is God or anythang, so don't nail that one on my chest.

But HPD, if'n the earth's avg temps been decreasing for 12 years, yeah I'd say it something of a thorn for Global Warming panicsters. My point to you was that you cain't bring up a few places on the planet as examples of shooshooing global warming. (And you sure as heck cain't bring up some snow for the Alps and Russia, unless whole vast areas are buried under for a month.)

By Gawd I'll say this, it shore don't feel like Global Warming the last week and a half, and got the same if not longer coming! Been hell on my bonsais and chickens, er, chicken water anyhow.
naked ape
11:02:56 AM
1/05/10


GAS SUPPLIES RUNNING OUT AS BRITAIN SHIVERS

UK NEWS
GAS SUPPLIES RUNNING OUT AS BRITAIN SHIVERS

Tuesday January 5 2010 byLouise Barnett

http://www.dailyexpress.co.uk/posts/view/149760


SHIVERING Britain faces the prospect of gas supply shortages as the worst cold spell in 30 years keeps a stranglehold on the country.

The National Grid yesterday issued only its ­second-ever warning that demand for energy is threatening to outstrip available supplies unless industry quickly slashes its consumption and more gas is rushed in from abroad.

The alert prompted the wholesale cost of gas to rocket by 70 per cent and raised fears that businesses and households could soon be hit by power cuts if the freezing weather persists as forecast for the rest of the month.

Shadow Energy Secretary Greg Clark warned: “For 12 years the Government has had its head in the sand about Britain’s precarious energy security.

“Today’s alert is a taste of what is to come as a result of Labour’s negligence – gas supply shortages and regular power cuts. I have repeatedly warned that Britain lacks the back-up plans that France and Germany have for these situations.” National Grid issued its warning – known as a gas balancing alert – because an unexpected shortfall meant Britain’s demand was at risk.

Gas was flowing out of the UK’s main storage facility at Rough, 18 miles off the Yorkshire coast, at a record rate yesterday as energy needed for homes and businesses came very close to the previous record high.

Analysts said the freeze combined with the post-New Year return to work created a surge which put intense pressure on supplies and added to the need for expensive additional gas to be pumped in from mainland Europe.Experts have estimated that Britain only has enough gas storage for 15 days so in times of high demand we have to rely on imports.

Ian Parrett, of energy analysts Inenco, warned that the country was in danger of being held to ransom over gas prices and blamed a lack of investment in storage plants.


“We’re faced with a shortfall of supply created by a combination of the cold weather and the number of people returning to work and putting the heating back on putting extra demand on the system,” he said. “Some big companies on interruptible gas contracts risk a reduction or cessation of their supply.”

Britain is increasingly reliant on imported gas because North Sea supplies are running out. Official predictions said just over 50 per cent of winter supplies would come from the North Sea with the rest piped from Europe and by ship from the Caribbean and the Far East.

A spokesman for energy market regulator Ofgem said of the National Grid’s alert: “It is a signal to the market to tell it that there is a possibility that gas demand could exceed gas supplies.”

The warning encouraged industry to use less gas and sent an appeal to the supply market to lift quotas. Its impact was a leap in the wholesale cost of gas from 35p to 60p per unit of energy – the therm.

An analyst at energy experts Platts warned: “This is only the first day of the current cold snap. What would be really scary would be if it stayed at 60p for months.”

Jeremy Nicholson, director of the Energy Intensive Users Group, which represents heavy industry, said: “This shows how vulnerable we are in the UK.”

A National Grid spokesman last night said of the imports: “It is all designed to ensure that domestic gas supplies are not affected.”

A spokeswoman for Energy UK which represents the big energy suppliers said: “Consumers shouldn’t be worried about this. The reason energy companies buy in advance is to protect customers from peaks in demand.”
stratd00d
11:06:38 AM
1/05/10

more more more?

HighPlainsDrifter
11:18:44 AM
1/05/10

Strat, izat all you got?!
naked ape
11:34:51 AM
1/05/10

LOL..as reality and fact overrun the liberal emotion.
theXL400
12:31:39 PM
1/05/10

Euro...so this is also BS?

http://www.euronews.net/2010/01/05/big-winter-freeze-batters-europe/

The big freeze has been causing chaos across much of Europe. In Germany the wintry weather resulted in this school bus — packed full of children — skating off the road onto rail lines. Fortunately, no one was hurt. The driver evacuated everyone just before the vehicle was struck by a regional train.

Poland has also been badly hit with 13 people dying over the weekend. Putting a brave face on the extreme conditions one homeless man said:
‘‘I have tinned food, I have bread, herrings, the main problem is that it’s cold.’‘

Britain has also taken a battering as a band of heavy snow moves southwards. In Scotland, two crew walked away with minor injuries when this freight train derailed.

The deep freeze has caused havoc for air travellers too. At Leeds Bradford airport, the snow was falling faster than they could clear it. Britain’s roads have also felt the full brunt of the cold snap, with drivers experiencing major delays and disruption.

Further north in Denmark forecasters are also predicting heavy snowfall. In the region of Jutland, big icebreakers have been getting ready to go out for the first time in 14 years as temperatures plummet.

Copyright © 2010 euronews
theXL400
1:07:57 PM
1/05/10

And meanwhile, Russia is laughing its a$$ off at the Europeans beholden to it for energy exports.
Mutt
1:09:50 PM
1/05/10

Euro...so this is also BS?
theXL400
1:07:57 PM
1/05/10


XL...is this BS? I don't know, tell me.
All I say is this winter has been fairly warm so far and the current cold weather and snow is just average winter conditions.

I have been checking out the the official swiss weather web site. "2009 was on average +1.2°C too warm and is the 7th warmest year since 1864, when the official weather records started in Switzerland. Six of the seventh warmest years fell into the last 10 years.
(forgive me my rather crude translation)




"Jahresbilanz
Mit einem Wärmeüberschuss von +1.2 Grad im Landesdurchschnitt war das Jahr 2009 das siebentwärmste der Messreihe mit Beginn im Jahr 1864. Sechs der sieben wärmsten Jahre traten in den letzten 10 Jahren auf.
Euro hike
5:40:59 AM
1/06/10

Not arguing that Euro, but we recently saw where the HARD FACT studies were infact skewed intentionally.
theXL400
5:43:04 AM
1/06/10

...huh?
Euro hike
5:44:42 AM
1/06/10

Euro - google on climategate
HighPlainsDrifter
7:38:50 AM
1/06/10


Did yawl lower your thermostats to adjust for global cooling or are you burning more to make you poor?
salebored
8:57:45 AM
1/06/10

effing cold in Chicago this morning! Those greedy basturds at NIPSCO are lovin the cold right now. I turned my Thermastat down

Screw you NIPSCO!
Wounded Knee
9:37:55 AM
1/06/10


Jan. 21, 2010

Steve Cole
Headquarters, Washington
202-358-0918
stephen.e.cole@nasa.gov

Leslie McCarthy
Goddard Institute for Space Studies, New York
212-678-5507
leslie.m.mccarthy@nasa.gov

RELEASE: 10-017

NASA RESEARCH FINDS LAST DECADE WAS WARMEST ON RECORD, 2009 ONE OF WARMEST YEARS

WASHINGTON -- A new analysis of global surface temperatures by NASA
scientists finds the past year was tied for the second warmest since
1880. In the Southern Hemisphere, 2009 was the warmest year on
record.

Although 2008 was the coolest year of the decade because of a strong
La Nina that cooled the tropical Pacific Ocean, 2009 saw a return to
a near-record global temperatures as the La Nina diminished,
according to the new analysis by NASA's Goddard Institute for Space
Studies (GISS) in New York. The past year was a small fraction of a
degree cooler than 2005, the warmest on record, putting 2009 in a
virtual tie with a cluster of other years --1998, 2002, 2003, 2006,
and 2007 -- for the second warmest on record.

"There's always interest in the annual temperature numbers and a given
year's ranking, but the ranking often misses the point," said James
Hansen, GISS director. "There's substantial year-to-year variability
of global temperature caused by the tropical El Nino-La Nina cycle.
When we average temperature over five or ten years to minimize that
variability, we find global warming is continuing unabated."

January 2000 to December 2009 was the warmest decade on record.
Looking back to 1880, when modern scientific instrumentation became
available to monitor temperatures precisely, a clear warming trend is
present, although there was a leveling off between the 1940s and
1970s.

In the past three decades, the GISS surface temperature record shows
an upward trend of about 0.36 degrees F (0.2 degrees C) per decade.
In total, average global temperatures have increased by about 1.5
degrees F (0.8 degrees C) since 1880.

"That's the important number to keep in mind," said GISS climatologist
Gavin Schmidt. "The difference between the second and sixth warmest
years is trivial because the known uncertainty in the temperature
measurement is larger than some of the differences between the
warmest years."

The near-record global temperatures of 2009 occurred despite an
unseasonably cool December in much of North America. High air
pressures from the Arctic decreased the east-west flow of the jet
stream, while increasing its tendency to blow from north to south.
The result was an unusual effect that caused frigid air from the
Arctic to rush into North America and warmer mid-latitude air to
shift toward the north. This left North America cooler than normal,
while the Arctic was warmer than normal.

"The contiguous 48 states cover only 1.5 percent of the world area, so
the United States' temperature does not affect the global temperature
much," Hansen said.

GISS uses publicly available data from three sources to conduct its
temperature analysis. The sources are weather data from more than a
thousand meteorological stations around the world, satellite
observations of sea surface temperatures, and Antarctic research
station measurements.

Other research groups also track global temperature trends but use
different analysis techniques. The Met Office Hadley Centre in the
United Kingdom uses similar input measurements as GISS, for example,
but it omits large areas of the Arctic and Antarctic where monitoring
stations are sparse.

Although the two methods produce slightly differing results in the
annual rankings, the decadal trends in the two records are
essentially identical.

"There's a contradiction between the results shown here and popular
perceptions about climate trends," Hansen said. "In the last decade,
global warming has not stopped."

For more information about GISS's surface temperature record, visit:

http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/


For video and still images about this story, visit:

http://svs.gsfc.nasa.gov/goto?010557


For more information about NASA and agency programs, visit:

http://www.nasa.gov


-end-

Tiiilt
6:09:59 PM
1/21/10

free24
8:11:20 PM
1/21/10

the scientists have been proven to be frauds and book- cookers.

credibility = ZERO

sayonara! alarmists ... the jig is up!
HighPlainsDrifter
8:28:46 PM
1/21/10

Tilty we have posted example after example of the lies and fraud of Weather research...Only a blithering idiot would still believe it.
theXL400
6:59:12 AM
1/22/10

Atmospheric science is definately not my area of study, but it's hard for me to believe all the crap we have spewed into the atmosphere hasn't caused some problems.
chili36
7:28:20 AM
1/22/10

Chili36, it isn't bad if someone made money off of it.
lumberzac
7:29:53 AM
1/22/10

We are still in Iraq and everything that has anything to do with it, is and was a lie- why the double standard? The intelligence cooked the books and still are. These people have over played the GW thing from both sides as has the Iraqi war monger bunch have had to to keep their jobs. Yah Gottah have a 'War On', look at Haiti, the 'War On Natural Disaster' , who wrote that book?
salebored
7:39:26 AM
1/22/10

*facepalm* @ salebored
Mutt
7:44:17 AM
1/22/10

Had no one been home on Haiti, the twin towers each 109 stories shorter, the USA fed government the size it was supposed to be and the economy 'free' instead of 'free for all', we'd be stylin', facepalm or not.
salebored
9:29:50 AM
1/22/10

Stovie
10:02:45 AM
2/02/10

Stovie
7:45:09 AM
2/03/10

You don't have a clue...
roseymonster
7:53:46 AM
2/03/10

funny how the left is distancing themselves from the whole "peer-reviewed" science thingamajiggy argument and turning towards more appeals to emotion ...
HighPlainsDrifter
7:56:53 AM
2/03/10

Maybe even $5,000.00 an ounce, Mr.Darwin.
salebored
9:25:18 AM
2/03/10

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Environment Hacked climate science emails Climate change emails between scientists reveal flaws in peer review
A close reading of the hacked emails exposes the real process of science, its jealousies and tribalism

http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2010/feb/02/hacked-climate-emails-flaws-peer-review
Stovie
9:57:11 AM
2/03/10

Print Email Exclusive: Yet another climategate?
February 1, 2010 - 17:42 ET

A few weeks ago, we covered the latest scandal with the IPCC, the climate arm of the UN. It seems they were sourcing the imminent melting of glaciers to an off handed comment in a phone conversation, NOT peer reviewed science.

At the time, the head of the IPCC Rajendra K. Pachauri said “I became aware of this when it was reported in the media about ten days ago.” Unfortunately for him, it’s now been revealed he was actually told about it months earlier, reportedly in November.

This was before Copenhagen, and in the midst of the breaking Climategate scandal, and the IPCC couldn’t afford yet another mark on their record at such a crucial time. Is this why they didn’t talk about the problems with their glacier sourcing back then? The IPCC denies this, of course, but were they subtly tipping their hand?

Yet another climategate?

11/26/09: IPCC relies entirely on peer reviewed literature in carrying out its assessment…

12/04/09: IPCC relies mainly on peer reviewed literature in carrying out its assessment…




The discrepancy goes back to November 26th, 2009. In their attempt to blow off Climategate, IPCC head Pachauri released this statement, printed on the New York Times website. It’s basically what you’d expect—for example:

It is unfortunate that an illegal act of accessing private email communications between scientists who have been involved as authors in I.P.C.C. assessments in the past has led to several questions and concerns. It is important for me to clarify that the I.P.C.C. as a body follows impartial, open and objective assessment of every aspect of climate change carried out with complete transparency.

But the next line was key:

IPCC relies entirely on peer reviewed literature in carrying out its assessment…

However, go to the IPCC website today, and you’ll find a link to the exact same 418 word statement, but with one difference.

IPCC relies mainly on peer reviewed literature in carrying out its assessment…

Strangely enough, the new document with the change from “entirely” to “mainly” was uploaded 8 days after the original. What happened here? Is this some sort of mistake? Did the Times just screw it up? Or was it an intentional change to hide the reports lack of peer review? Those who follow how much the IPCC, its supporters, and people like Al Gore know how often they tout their peer review purity.

To review:

On 11-26-2009 NY Times: "IPCC relies entirely on peer reviewed literature..."
On 12-4-2009 IPCC website: "IPCC relies mainly on peer reviewed literature..."

So, did they change this knowing what was coming with Glaciergate?

Or perhaps they knew about even more. Today we learn the UK Telegraph has found two additional newly discovered sourcing debacles. The IPCC claims about melting ice in the Alps, the Andes, and in Africa come not from peer reviewed scientific literature—but from Climbing Magazine.

It’s sort of like “Runners World” for mountain climbing. Amazingly, that’s the better of the two sources. The other source was –I kid you not---a student dissertation --written by a climate change activist ----while he was studying for a degree…in GEOGRAPHY.

And…now…another: “A STARTLING report by the United Nations climate watchdog that global warming might wipe out 40% of the Amazon rainforest was based on an unsubstantiated claim by green campaigners who had little scientific expertise.”

While all of this is going on, the head of the IPCC isn’t resigning---he’s releasing an explicit romance novel. Not kidding.

What is going on here? And why are papers in the UK the only ones reporting on it?
Stratd00d
2:17:52 PM
2/03/10

ROTFLMAO...the END OF GOREBAL WARMING...

OBAMA LIED OUR ECONOMY DIED!!!!!

John Coleman, founder of the Weather Channel, in an hour-long television documentary titled "Global Warming: The Other Side," presents evidence that our National Climatic Data Center has been manipulating weather data just as the now disgraced and under investigation British University of East Anglia Climate Research Unit. The NCDC is a division of the U.S. National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration. Its manipulated climate data is used by the Goddard Institute of Space Studies, which is a division of the National Aeronautical and Space Administration. John Coleman’s blockbuster five-part series can be seen here.

The Coleman documentary presents research by computer expert E. Michael Smith and Certified Consulting Meteorologist Joseph D’Aleo. During the 1960s and into the 1980s, the number of stations used for calculating global surface temperatures was about 6,000. By 1990, the number of stations dropped rapidly to about 1,500. Most of the stations lost were in the colder regions of the Earth. Not adjusting for their lost made temperatures appear to be higher than was in fact the case.

According to Science & Environmental Policy Project, Russia reported that CRU was ignoring data from colder regions of Russia, even though these stations were still reporting data. That means data loss was not simply the result of station closings but deliberate decisions by CRU to ignore them in order to hype their global warming claims. D’Aleo and Smith report that our NCDC engaged in similar deceptive activity where they have dropped stations, particularly in colder climates, higher elevations or closer to the polar regions. Temperatures are now simply projected for these colder stations from other stations, usually in warmer climates.

Mounting evidence of scientific fraud might make little difference in terms of the response to manmade global warming hysteria. Why? Vested economic and political interests have emerged where trillions of dollars and social control are at stake. Therefore, many people who recognize the scientific fraud underlying global warming claims are likely to defend it anyway.


I am willing to bet the number of "lives destroyed" by this Fraud over the past 20 years will eclipse the total war dead from Gulf War I through today's War on Islamo Fascisim.
theXL400
8:19:14 AM
2/04/10

Stratd00d
2:23:00 PM
2/04/10

“Atmospheric science is definately not my area of study, but it's hard for me to believe all the crap we have spewed into the atmosphere hasn't caused some problems.”
chili36
7:28:20 AM
1/22/10



Thanks John Stewart.


Dang, I don't watch Hannity but get accused of being his sheep, and you take Stewart's words as your own and nothing!
HighPlainsDrifter
9:02:59 PM
2/04/10

LOL...Chili...might want to put something on that bruise I think HPD just pounded you.

Chili, shall we open this frank discussion with a reference to...VOLCANOES???? HMMM yeah they tend to spew more of that crap into the air in one major eruption than all of mankind combined. AND BUNCHES OF THEM DO IT DAILY since the beginning of time.

I think your problem is that you are so full of yourself you cannot possibly see that we are NOTHING to a planet that has shrugged off Hurricanes, Comets, Asteroids etc.
theXL400
6:22:40 AM
2/05/10

Are you guys still trying to figure out if GW is a bigger lie than moving the WMD from Cuba to Haiti?
salebored
7:40:40 AM
2/05/10

Well darn there tilty and company.

http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2010/02/05/climate-chief-critics-rub-faces-asbestos/

The report contained misleading data about the melting rate of glaciers in the Himalayas and is riddled with citations to data furnished by activist groups, non-scientific journals and material that was never peer-reviewed.

Pachauri called the furor over errors in the assessment report "a blip that is going to pass," and reiterated his intention to remain in place as the chief of the world's most powerful climate body.
theXL400
1:15:45 PM
2/05/10

I knew a girl that had multiple 'world's most powerful climate bodies'.
salebored
1:20:33 PM
2/05/10

I know chili and have spent many hours on the trail with him. Though we often disagree philosophically, I think he's a great guy (for a Voles fan and an attorney). He's a big sumb!tch too, ya don't wanna p!$$ him off. That having been said, I too, think that man's impact upon the environment has been blown way out of proportion. The Earth has gone through climatic cycles from time immemorial. But, it gives Albore and his ilk something to wring their hands about.
I liked the volcano thing, XL. Good point.
FG
2:41:08 PM
2/05/10

Ditto to everything FG just said.....


is that father goose?
Stratd00d
3:11:36 PM
2/05/10

"Boutcha, Strat?
FG
3:13:19 PM
2/05/10

Headlines for T*lt and vileboy
UN: Global warming has put 55% of the Netherlands underwater.

Netherlands: We think we would have noticed that
Stovie
4:43:40 PM
2/05/10

DC: SOME LOCATIONS IN EXCESS OF 30 INCHES;
BIGGEST STORM OF RECORD
HighPlainsDrifter
8:45:43 PM
2/05/10

I don't know how I'm going to shovel all this global warming out of my driveway.
HighPlainsDrifter
5:44:32 AM
2/06/10

The arrogance of the global warming addicts is appalling. Earth allows us to live. Not the other way around.
bacpac
6:24:10 AM
2/06/10

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