The Internet belongs to the world

“I'm pretty easy going and fair is fair, but I think the US should maintain control of the Internet. World politics & the economy is going Global. That's too dangerous to give up/lose control of. I'd rather have our spies tapping the net, then a foreign gov or corporation.”

“We already tap the net....


"Three men can keep a secret, as long as two are dead..."
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“The internet belongs to those who built it, financed it, and maintain it. The majority of the resources of the internet reside in the USA. The majority of the dollars that keep the internet afloat come from the USA. The power belongs to the one who has the responsibility. I tell that same thing to my kids often.”

“Hell, not only that, the former vice president of the United States of America, Al Gore, INVENTED the internet. Just ask him.”

“ Al Gore, INVENTED the internet. Just ask him

just another urban legend. he never said that.”

“sounds like s-rge took the initiative in taking things out of context”

“i dont have time to argue so please dont draw me into something just cuz youre bored, because you know how terrible i am at resisting”

“I copied the recording of him talking.

I'm allowing you to draw your conclusions as to what he said.

If that is taking it out of context, then the world is quickly crumbling before our very eyes into a ball of molten fleshy goo and we should run for our lives before the pain ensues.”

“Claim: Vice-President Al Gore claimed that he "invented" the Internet.

Status: False.

Origins: Despite the derisive references that continue even today, Al Gore did not claim he "invented" the Internet, nor did he say anything that could reasonably be interpreted that way. The "Al Gore said he 'invented' the Internet" put-downs were misleading, out-of-context distortions of something he said during an interview with Wolf Blitzer on CNN's "Late Edition" program on 9 March 1999. When asked to describe what distinguished him from his challenger for the Democratic presidential nomination, Senator Bill Bradley of New Jersey, Gore replied (in part):
During my service in the United States Congress, I took the initiative in creating the Internet. I took the initiative in moving forward a whole range of initiatives that have proven to be important to our country's economic growth and environmental protection, improvements in our educational system.
Clearly, although Gore's phrasing was clumsy (and perhaps self-serving), he was not claiming that he "invented" the Internet (in the sense of having designed or implemented it), but that he was responsible, in an economic and legislative sense, for fostering the development the technology that we now know as the Internet. To claim that Gore was seriously trying to take credit for the "invention" of the Internet is, frankly, just silly political posturing that arose out of a close presidential campaign. Gore never used the word "invent," and the words "create" and "invent" have distinctly different meanings — the former is used in the sense of "to bring about" or "to bring into existence" while the latter is generally used to signify the first instance of someone's thinking up or implementing an idea. (To those who say the words "create" and "invent" mean exactly the same thing, we have to ask why, then, the media overwhelmingly and consistently cited Gore as having claimed he "invented" the Internet, even though he never used that word, and transcripts of what he actually said were readily available.)

http://www.snopes.com/quotes/internet.asp”

“As you can plainly see, he was clearly explaining what qualifications he has over an opponent. One of the qualifications he mentions is that he took the initiative in creating the internet. If you read something different, please explain.

BLITZER: I want to get to some of the substance of domestic and international issues in a minute, but let's just wrap up a little bit of the politics right now.

Why should Democrats, looking at the Democratic nomination process, support you instead of Bill Bradley, a friend of yours, a former colleague in the Senate? What do you have to bring to this that he doesn't necessarily bring to this process?

GORE: Well, I will be offering -- I'll be offering my vision when my campaign begins. And it will be comprehensive and sweeping. And I hope that it will be compelling enough to draw people toward it. I feel that it will be.

But it will emerge from my dialogue with the American people. I've traveled to every part of this country during the last six years. During my service in the United States Congress, I took the initiative in creating the Internet. I took the initiative in moving forward a whole range of initiatives that have proven to be important to our country's economic growth and environmental protection, improvements in our educational system.

During a quarter century of public service, including most of it long before I came into my current job, I have worked to try to improve the quality of life in our country and in our world. And what I've seen during that experience is an emerging future that's very exciting, about which I'm very optimistic, and toward which I want to lead. ”

“Snopes clearly elliminated the most important part of the reason he was saying what he said.

He was replying to what he (Gore) has done that Bradley has not done. One of the specific things he listed is that he created the internet.

If you need Snopes to interpret that plain English for you, God help us.”

“Snopes is playing semantics here.

He said he "created" the internet, not "invented". Technically true, but let's get to the heart of the matter instead of playing "what is the meaning of 'is'"?

Gore's intentions are obvious. To deceive.”

“"taking the initiative in creating" and "inventing" are two different things. it is obvious that he was not trying to claim he "invented" it, in the sense that bell invented the telephone, but that he was instrumental in its creation.”

“No he wasn't. He had nothing whatsoever to do with it's creation. It was created before he took any intiative to "support" or "expand" the internet. By his logic, I helped to create it when I post on here.

So do you.

Congratulations, you should run for office.”

“he was doing what all politicians do. playing himself up. selling himself. granted, he was overselling. gore's stiff public persona is well-known. he is the anti-slick-willy.”

“Here's the REAL best quote from that interview:

BLITZER: On this political front, the polls currently see Governor George Bush of Texas and even Elizabeth Dole ahead of you in a hypothetical race nearly two years away from today. Why do you think that's the situation?

GORE: Well, what will decide the outcome of the presidential contest in the year 2000 will not be public opinion polls but the power of ideas, the quality of leadership, the compelling vision that I will offer for the American people and how they respond to it. It won't be decided by public opinion polls. ”

“He had nothing whatsoever to do with it's creation

thats beside the point. we're not debating whether or not he created it, but whether or not he claimed to have invented it.”

“LMAO!”

“ok, now please leave me alone im trying to unpack”

“cre·ate Audio pronunciation of "create" ( P ) Pronunciation Key (kr-t)
tr.v. cre·at·ed, cre·at·ing, cre·ates

1. To cause to exist; bring into being. See Synonyms at found1.
2. To give rise to; produce: That remark created a stir.
3. To invest with an office or title; appoint.
4. To produce through artistic or imaginative effort: create a poem; create a role.

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in·vent Audio pronunciation of "invent" ( P ) Pronunciation Key (n-vnt)
tr.v. in·vent·ed, in·vent·ing, in·vents

1. To produce or contrive (something previously unknown) by the use of ingenuity or imagination.
2. To make up; fabricate: invent a likely excuse.

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Looks like "create" is a better word for what Bell did than "invent".
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“Yes sarge, he obviously said he invented it while sitting in Congress.”

“Al Gore had no conception of what the word internet meant when he said, "During my service in the United States Congress, I took the initiative in creating the Internet." Can you say...dumba$$?

People use Web and Internet to mean the same things, when in reality, they are different.

Main Entry: World Wide Web
Function: noun
: a part of the Internet designed to allow easier navigation of the network through the use of graphical user interfaces and hypertext links between different addresses -- called also Web

Main Entry: In·ter·net
Pronunciation: 'in-t&r-"net
Function: noun
: an electronic communications network that connects computer networks and organizational computer facilities around the world.

Most people also have no concept of DNS, the service/servers that resolve host names to IP addresses. Without DNS, you'd have to remember 4 octets for every host name you wanted to use. It's kind of like a phone book for WWW. I won't mention ARP, the reverse resolution of IP addresses to hast names...oops...I already did.

Some organization has to be the ultimate authority for Domain Names and resolution to IP addresses.”

“Yeah, and it's called Mat the Webmaster Ski. LOL!”

“last word”

“now whos arguing semantics? its been demonstrated what he meant. hes just not good with words or in interviews.”

“When I first heard people say that he claimed he "invented" the Internet I decided that it must have been a poorly worded statement even before I heard what he said. I mean that's just a totally stupid thing for him to claim... so stupid that even Al Gore wouldn't have said it on purpose. As my dad would say, he may be dumb but he ain't stupid.

Then again this is Al Gore we are talking about.

However, after I read the transcripts I still believed it was just sloppy wording.”

“"Poor semantics", crash bang, is not what this is. That's an excuse for what he was trying to claim. He was trying to demonstrate a task which he accomplished in life which his opponent did not.

Yes, I agree, you can change what he said and then maybe he didn't say that. But in reality, he said those words. He was trying to make it sound like he was instrumental in the creation of the internet.

The "semantics" argument is when you try to say that one word does not equal another, when in fact they do. Like if somebody said "He said he 'invented' the internet", when in reality his exact words were "I 'created' the internet", then THAT'S semantics.

That's reminds me of the John Kerry/Jane Fonda photo that the liberals claimed he wasn't in. John Kerry and Jane Fonda WERE in the same photo together, but when somebody claimed that they would pull out ANOTHER (forged) photo and say "See! It's fake!" Tactcs like these are why libbies like you are not in office anymore.”

“libbies like you

im not a libbie. i have positions on both sides of the left/right fence. but if it helps, go ahead and make me a boogie man with your labels.

typical

to say "al gore said that he invented the internet" is an over-simplification of the issue.

also typical”

“How did this thread go from "who has the ultimate authority for domain name assignment" to a pi$$ing contest about what Al Gore meant when he said, "During my service in the United States Congress, I took the initiative in creating the Internet." ? Since when do politicians get to argue, "Yes, those are the words I spoke, but here is what I meant."

Al Gore is just a dumba$$.”

“wow. and we think WE ought to run the internet??

please go take a hike and chill out”

“matt runs the internet.
All bow to matt!

DUH!”