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lmao....yeah, yeah, you gotta watch those sugar free candies....LMAO...Speaking of walmart, i bought a bunch of stuff from super walmart today...it was a grand opening in the town I am moving too lol....
Spirit Coyote
7:18:19 PM
5/04/06

Bob Marley
That happens to be a really good live set, Dead-man!

Bob was kind enough to do an ID for my radio show back in Fla in the late 70's. I had to edit the piss out of it because his English was so broken!
Treebeard
7:43:46 PM
5/04/06

I wasn’t holding out much hope for a high quality show. When someone like Bob or Jimmie dies too early eventually people cash in to the point that they will bring ANYTHING out so to sell. Much of it is so crappy in quality. This is top shelf quality! Dolby 5.1 even. I was glad to see some of his b-side stuff on there like “Crazy Baldheads”.

So roll a spleef and let de music wash ove-a ya soul mon!
DeadNBloated
7:24:02 AM
5/05/06

Yah mon! Jah love...feel it in the one drop....jah rastafari!

(rant over) :)
Treebeard
7:50:31 AM
5/05/06

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh...............

Just finished a nice cup of Folgers and a nice snack of Pop-tarts....
Bought yesterday at Wal-Mart.
Later, I'll have an apple or pear, also bought at Wal-Mart.
:-)
StoveStomper
7:57:02 AM
5/05/06

Today I think I will go to WALMART...or better yet the other WALTON place. SAMS WHOLESALE. to buy some stuff....

Hey has anyone here ever tried some of the dried soup mixes at SAMS?

GOOD stuff. I have a lightweight thermos (from WALMART OR SAMS) I use in the winter. Put the soup mix from SAMS or WALMART in with boiling water in the morning by lunch it is nice and ready for eating with some WALMART LEXAN SPOOONS>
XL400236
8:06:09 AM
5/05/06

I'm working on a Wal*Mart project this morning for work. Our company's milk is being sold at the WA WAl*Mart Super Centers. Woo Hoo!
I love Wally World. Used my headlamp last weekend out at the Olympics. Yes! Can you believe I went backpacking??!
pixie
10:06:18 AM
5/05/06

Where was the TR, Miss Smarty? ;-)
StoveStomper
10:12:03 AM
5/05/06

I don't get to slack at this job. I didn't have time to do one. : (
pixie
10:21:18 AM
5/05/06

Hey Hyway, I spent over $100 this afternoon at Wal-Mart. ;-)”
StoveStomper
6:33:39 PM
5/04/06

Wow, roof tarp prices have really gone up lately!
Buddha Bear
6:03:14 AM
5/06/06

Wall Mart just got fined the highest fine in the State of Michigan EVER. They apparently can't handle putting price tags on their merchandise. It's probably because their employees are so busy filling out forms for state and federal assistance, poor people (literally). But why should Wall Mart change it's ways? Those people should just be grateful they have jobs, right?
Sassafras
12:23:53 PM
5/06/06

It ain't forced labor folks. No one put these people in chains and made them work there.

I have a friend who works there and she makes pretty good money and is working her way up through the ranks.
DeadNBloated
12:26:33 PM
5/06/06

I can see a little disapointment if one is a laid off skilled union auto worker forced to now work at $10 hr.

It's unskilled labor folks.
You can learn all you need to work at Wal-Mart in a day or two.
StoveStomper
3:23:28 PM
5/06/06

LOL....you know when you are on the bottom you have to start somewhere.
XL400236
6:05:44 PM
5/06/06

The way I see it ...there's plenty of jobs out there that suck worse than Walmart.Some people and I mean folks with college degrees can't do any better because they lack the confidence to do any better.
Spam
6:21:39 PM
5/06/06

Hey, as long as those poor insurance company executives can get by on 50% profit margins, and hire good americans as adjusters who's sole purpose is to stiff thier clients, and the people who get stiffed keep voting politicians in that think this is a good idea (because of all their stock profits of course); I have no problem with $100 roof taros being sold at Wal-Mart. Heck, I hope ole' Wal-Mart gets into the insurance business! Maybe they could give free tarps as an incentive to buy the insurance through them.

Wal-mart is the Allstate of the retail market, and they've done such a fine job.
Buddha Bear
7:14:23 PM
5/06/06

BB....remember that the Gas COmpanies...Walmart etc have a first responsibility to owners....many retirement funds, stock holdings, etc etc...depend on them making a profit.

Only a pure idiotic socialist would think they had not right to make a profit for their owners.
XL400236
7:18:19 PM
5/06/06

XL - not many people have an issue with companies making profits. I don't

But certain firms are in a monopoly or cartel position. Walmart creates local monopolies using dubious business practices which are bad for the areas where they set up shop. I don't even support too much legislation against them. I just hope people are smart enough to see the damage Walmart does and vote with their feet and their checkbooks.

The best thing that can be done is to make it clear to people the harm walmart does and encourage them to shop at stores with good business practices that are good for America. It is working as more and more people are aware of the harm walmart does to areas, and to suppliers, and to America in general.

Walmart's answer - spend more money on commercials saying what a nice fluffy family company they are.

Oil companies have essentially created a cartel where there's little or no competition at the retail level. What other business makes more money when the price of it's raw materials rise? Of course they also control the production of a large part of the raw materials. Oil prices go up, they make more money, and they pass the costs straight onto the consumer, in a matter of hours. They've insulated themselves by the fact they are a cartel. They've essentially turned to competing on lowering operating costs rather than offering competitive pricing. Lower production costs are good, but they've also avoided building refineries as they know that they have America by the balls. Luckily people are starting to realize this and hopefully will start to change their decision-making.

AllState, well they make their money based on risk, only when the lose they don't want to pay out - they count on the fact that the little guy can't compete against a huge corporation and its team of lawyers.

And BB is right - we keep electing politicians who are more interested in themselves and the money the lobbying firms representing these huge corporate entities provide than in the interests of America.

It's in everyone in America's interests to use energy more efficiently, everyone but big energy firms - but where is the legistlation to encourage this. We need some serious tax breaks and even grants to encourage more efficient energy use - from hybrid cars, to home solar systems, to home wind-generating systems - to even taxing old wasteful light bulbs out of existance.
We certainly shouldn't be offering tax breaks for buying a hummer.

Also make these tax breaks easy to use - don't make people jump through multiple hoops to get them.

But it'll never happen as long as big energy keeps pumping the gold into Washington.
Y2
7:49:23 PM
5/06/06

UH huh....and they beam orders down from the MOTHER SHIP...unless you have a tinfoil hat.

Y2, you guys kill me.....but my favorite would be a FAIR TAX where this special pay off stuff for congress would disappear.
XL400236
9:12:01 PM
5/06/06

A government has to do it's job or get out of business. Today is the worst situation where the gov. doesn't really control big co's , infact they write laws to curb competition. The tax issues that Wally does with local govs. is sick. More money in gov. Keep your eyes on the China model, might be the one .Oh XL, your 'fair tax ' is a great idea ,but will run into the problems all good ideas have in a totally corrupt mess like this one. Beam me up....hold the water.
salebored
9:36:33 PM
5/06/06

SALISBURY, Md.
i heard today that who ever did the glue thing also snuck into the SALISBURY, Md. police station and stole the toilet out of the mens room..........the chief of police said they had no leads and "nothing to go on"..........hee...hee...sorry, couldnt resist!!!!
rrampage
9:38:55 PM
5/06/06

My brothers are drunk again.
Fatuous Bear
9:55:43 PM
5/06/06

What we need in this country is a way that everyone can be treated equally and fairly. Everyone can have the same benefits as everyone else no matter what your situation. Everyone living together as one big happy family.




DeadNBloated
8:46:08 AM
5/07/06

Oops! Sorry, that's the old rally sign. Here's the updated one...



"Look for the commie lable..."
last edited: 5/07/06 10:29:34 AM
DeadNBloated
10:29:02 AM
5/07/06

No Bear , your bothers posted the two above.
salebored
10:39:19 AM
5/07/06

I am so sick of hearing how Walmart is bad for an area and runs everyone else out of business. The left acts like when a walmart comes in the town dries up and dissappears leaving walmart surrounded by empty derelict buildings. The truth is that where ever a walmart is built a little city grows up around it with a 100 businesses ranging from small mom and pop busnesses to chain resturants, lowes, home depots, resturants, specialty clothing stores, thrift stores, etc. I suppose all those businesses are owned by Walmart.
hyway
12:31:35 PM
5/07/06

But you never hear how much money that Walmart saves low income families and how much they give to local charities.
DeadNBloated
3:58:44 PM
5/07/06

Which is actually not as much as many other companies given the size and income of Walmart, and has come about in recent years mainly as a way to counteract the negative publicity their business practices draws.

Walmart - helping local communities all over China. It's interesting how all these patriotic Americans are doing their bit to help the biggest challenger to American power.
Y2
5:42:09 PM
5/07/06

Window Dressing??
Kinda like tobacco companies funding youth anti-smoking campaigns.
MarkO
5:45:14 PM
5/07/06

And Hyway - so these businesses never existed in your community before Walmart came to town, or did they move there or were new businesses there replacing existing ones on Main Street?
Y2
5:45:59 PM
5/07/06

"Wal-Mart Stores reported the largest amount of cash giving, with almost $136-million in grants.

"Dollar-wise, we blew everybody out of the water," said Betsy B. Reithemeyer, director of the Wal-Mart Foundation, which provides most of the corporation's philanthropy. Wal-Mart's cash donations last year were $19.4-million more than in 2001, and the company expects to give even more this year."


http://philanthropy.com/free/articles/v15/i19/19000601.htm

"With a focus on education, children and communities, Walmart charity contributes more than $5 a second every day of the year. In recent history cash donations through Wal Mart exceeded a record $170 million dollars. According to the Chronicle of Philanthropy, this makes Wal-Mart the largest giver in the country."

http://www.walmartfacts.com/walmart-charity.aspx
DeadNBloated
6:37:59 PM
5/07/06

I'd like to know how many of the walmart haters have a membership with REI? You know, REI. They squeez out the little mom and pops shops too, support products made in China and Vietnam, and I bet they don't pay all that great either.

Walk the walk and shred those REI cards and hit the mom and pop places.
DeadNBloated
6:52:21 PM
5/07/06

..but that's different, Nigal!
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

I'm enjoying a snack from Wal-Mart right now.
StoveStomper
7:50:37 PM
5/07/06

y2, what difference does it make whether its new business, relocated business or whatever. My point is that walmart is a business magnet, not a business destroyer. It creates traffic so businesses go where the people are instead of being downtown which usually has old worn down buildings, crime and little or no parking. BTW, mom and pop stores are great for playing checkers with friends but they suck for providing goods desired by the customer.
hyway
7:55:25 PM
5/07/06

Hyway - because it offers lower-paid jobs than the ones it replaces. Overall local economies end up having to subsidize the low paid walmart workers for things like healthcare.

Nigal - REI treats its workers well and is atually recognized as one of the best places to work.
Companies can thrive and not stoop as low as Walmart. REI is not looking to branch out into every other sector out there. It's banking next for them.
Y2
8:56:22 PM
5/07/06

It's the whole picture with Walmart. I think a little more pressure on them is a good think. People vote with their pocketbooks and Walmart will change its ways, more than superficially.
Y2
8:59:00 PM
5/07/06

Y2, you must be reading something different than what I am writing. I said that where ever a walmart pops up it is soon surrounded by at least 50 other businesses that are not owned by walmart, yet you respond with, "walmart under pays its employees." Walmart doesn't pay the wages for all those other businesses.

I am curious, do you actually know anyone that works at walmart and I don't mean someone who only worked their for a couple weeks. I mean people who work there as a permanent job. Well, I do. And they aren't #&%!$ing.
hyway
10:03:15 PM
5/07/06

Yes. I used to buy my gear from Ma & Pa's Outdoor Gear Emporium in Alexandria, VA. Now, I'm ashamed to say I shop at REI.

The Gear Emporium is now a Starbucks.
bearmagnet
10:16:39 PM
5/07/06

Walmart sucks!!! Check this out http://www.walmartmovie.com/
in2backpacking
10:17:58 PM
5/07/06

Just like a political discussion, we need to stop the generalizations. The impact a new WalMart store has on the local community depends a lot upon the makeup of the local community. In more rural areas, where there are fewer employment options, and the opening of a new WalMart does cause some closing of the local "Mom & Pop's", it's understandable that some will be pi$$ed at WalMart. The impact there is different than in some other areas.

Example: A new WalMart SuperStore is scheduled for opening in Folsom, CA, a relatively high-population area with a pretty broad employer base. Almost everyone interviewed is looking at this as a good opportunity to have another low-cost shopping option, competing with Sam's & CostCo for the consumer $$.

Will a few jobs be lost? probably. Will a few more be created? Maybe. Will the thousands of people who shop in Folsom be able to save a few more $$ on their weekly grocery bill? Definitely!
wanderer
10:30:35 PM
5/07/06

Does anyone here know any Walmart employees?
bearmagnet
10:33:18 PM
5/07/06

Everyone is so in love with the low prices they don't even stop to think of how much better the economy would be if walmart payed their employees $1 more an hour, they have enough money to do it, it's not like they are poor. They just have their heads so far up their A** with greed they don't care about anyone but themselves.
in2backpacking
10:45:10 PM
5/07/06

I do.

My next door neighbor works there. She's been there since before we moved in 12 years ago. Her husband is a prison guard.

My neice's boyfriend works at walmart. My sister and niece likes the discounts he gets for them.

Amother neighbor, nice retired lady, works there seasonally.

A girl in my writers club worked there at the time. she may still, I just haven't seen her in a couple years.
hyway
10:47:40 PM
5/07/06

hahahhaha, great business practice. You'll rule the world with that one.
hyway
10:50:41 PM
5/07/06

"Everyone is so in love with the low prices they don't even stop to think of how much better the economy would be if walmart payed their employees $1 more an hour, they have enough money to do it,..."

"they have enough money to do it,..."

The point is, and so many seem to forget it, that this is a Capitalist / Free Enterprise system, NOT a socialist system, and if you don't HAVE to pay people the extra $$, then you usually don't, pure & sinple.

If those people who are employed there want a better job with higher pay & more benefits, that option is available to them. It'd called getting an education & applying yourself.

Please stop the incessant whining about a company who happens to know how to run a business. Your complaint isn't with them, it's with "the system". You just don't like the fact that someone isn't going to pay minimum wage with benefits when the employee doesn't deserve it / hasn't earned it.

If the employee is worth more... guess what.. they are free to move on & take that better job somewhere else!
wanderer
10:56:36 PM
5/07/06

I know two people who work there. They are both ex Boy Scouts from my Troop, they're working there while they're going to college.

Guess what? They don't look at WalMArt as a career to raise a family on... they look at it as a great place to work while they get their education so they can make something of themselves!!

I really like those boys! Their head is on straight, not "up their butt", as in2backpacking is crying about!
wanderer
11:00:37 PM
5/07/06

Fair enough. so as to give both sides of the stories (I will try to be concise);

I know a women in her 50's who works for Kmart in small town America, Midwest.

Her Husband died a little prematuraly of Cancer.

Her family wasn't quite prepared for his death. She has no real training, education.

She works for Kmart now. it was her best option. She's not treated well. She really has no other options.

i guess this is all her fault though, eh?
bearmagnet
11:06:51 PM
5/07/06

yes it is her fault. If her whole life plan was to let her husband take care of her until he died then thats what she got. Now he's dead and she doesn't know how to take care of herself. That certainly isn't K-Marts fault.
hyway
11:42:27 PM
5/07/06

facts of life:

1. people take advantage of their position when they are given an opportunity to do so.

2. its not unreasonable for people to look out for themselves to the detriment of others.

3. life isn't fair.
Roam Around
11:56:13 PM
5/07/06

and she doesn't know how to take care of herself.

I'm sorry, How old are you? I ask b/c there was a different mindset a generation ago. She is taking care of herself, her option just sucks.

I wasn't trying to suggest it was Kmarts fault, hyway.

But to suggest people always have other options is wrong.
bearmagnet
12:20:33 AM
5/08/06

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