Savage Gulf hiking in January

“Oh, WK, talk about "glad you asked!" :)

No worries!”

“I am 5-10 minutes from the airport. It isn't a problem to pick him up. I will stand there with a big sign that says Jimmy San...lol”

“You guys would have been okay. Just had to have slept in the car somewhere.

No no, that doesn't sound like fun.”

“Ha Ha! I did that with Ruby at Midway airport once waiting for Phantom Soul.”

“sort of a wierd and twisted survival scenario.”

“I would like to take you up on that very generous offer. Let me know if plans change or you change your mind. I have emailed resuce9 and told him he is off the hook and that he should just go directly to the Friday night camp.”

“Jimmy San you have mail”

“Whew... today was not a good day for a computer restoration.

I finally got a chance to look at the boards. If Ewker is picking up Jimmy, then I'm going to head down earlier for the friday night camp. My plans changed around the house anyway, so I'll be able to leave as early as I want, and still be able to hit the stores in nashville.

Anyone is still welcome to go with me. I'm planning on being to camp around 4-5 at the latest.”

“Thanks to both of you for the assist.

I have one final favor to ask of someone on the trip... as it appears I am apparently such a charity case. Since I can't carry matches or fuel on the plane could someone drive down some extra denatured alcohol and a few matches for me for my stove?

Pretty please?”

“I have a gallon jug of denatured alcohol and I can save back a plastic coke bottle”

“:) thanks! My weenie dehydrated dinner, tea addiction and I all thank you.”

“I was bringing extra as well.”

“I am pumped! Lets hope this warm weather we have been having resurfaces next weekend!”

“Weather.com is saying high forties for Saturday.

Perfect for shorts!”

“way to early to look at the weather..what city you using WK”

“I avoid shorts. My legs should not be seen in public places.”

“monteagle. I know it is too early, but the temp will be close. Precipitation usually not correct until 2 or 3 days before.”

“Is anyone leaving from near us? I would like to make a date for mike to go play :)”

“I am just saying about the weather cause it was in the upper 60's this weekend... FREEKY....”

“I have seen that TN. It has been warmer up in Chicago as well. Had a cold snap in late November, snow, now highs at about 40 every day.

Sucks big time!

Nicole, I might be able to squeeze you in. We are leaving at 6AM on Friday morning. Can you make that?”

“dont forget room for that Chinese/Japanese guy Jimmy Son”

“Ha Ha! I don't think I will be bringing my huge cooler (no reason to) just 2 small ones. The wood I will have for Friday nights fire will not be taking up the space in the trunk on the way home, so we can fit all the packs in the trunk.”

“WK...I cant go( the damn foot), but Im thinking mike should....He has been moaning about wanting to backpack lately. I can boot him outta my hair for a weekend and reorganize the entire house :D”

“it would be good to see Mike again. Push him out the door SC”

“If he wants to, have him get in touch with me.”

“Sure thing!”

“Prosecutor is getting to my house around 6AM. After he arrives, we will saddle up and head your way if he is serious about hiking.

We will be back on Monday, not Sunday.”

“Sorry I cant make it, i really want to go! Yall have fun out there....

BTW, IJ, no mtn bikes allowed on trails.”

“embear, you still in town?”

“I'm itching to go as well. I however am not like tnprime. I'd like it to be about 20-30 F.

I did a "practice pack" today to see how everything was going to fit into the new bag. I was also able to shed a BUNCH of lbs as opposed to my last trip. As it stands now, without water, fuel, or food, I'm down to approx 22 lbs. MUCH better than the 65 I was packing last fall. Thanks for the information guys.”

“Oh my! You really cut a lot out. How much you think the food will weigh?

How much water you starting with? The are plenty of places to filter water down there in the park so you will not need to pack it in for the whole trip.

20-30 during the day or at night?”

“holy smokes, 65 lbs! Thats like carrying a freakin buffalo!!! I beleave your first time load was worse then wanderfools load....OMG...

WK...mike cant take both friday and monday off...not with his new position at work :( He regrets that he can't make it though he wanted to very much :)”

“Hey ask laura the next time you talk with her about her first experience down at Charles Deam. I want to say her pack weighed about that.

Oh well, tell him I said hi! Jim has a great little trip up to the Porkies in April that maybe you guys could join.”

“Porkies


that would fit CMB”

“Only if there is a Mt. Baconring!”

“I should have seen THAT coming...”

“maybe BaconRing cavern...deep and wide
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“im goin to the porkies one!! :) And so is laura :)”

“You mean to tell me there was a chance I could have met Embear?! I'm bummed ;)”

““Oh my! You really cut a lot out. How much you think the food will weigh?"
I think for 3 days, food should weigh between 1.5 and 2.5 lbs. I'm not going to take the 12 course meal this time.

"How much water you starting with?"
I've got a 70 oz CamelBak stashed inside the pack that I'll fill. Figure I'm going to pack an extra Nalgene this trip to get used to the weight for the Grand Canyon trip. That should make water weight about 8lbs.

Figure in an extra 2 lbs for fuel, and 2 lbs for variances. I'm hoping that I can get my pack to the 35 lbs range. WOOHOO! Maybe my back won't kill me like last time!

"20-30 during the day or at night?”
During the day of course! Night time temperatures should be in the low teens. :-D”

“What kind of weather are we expecting and is there a short route out for me on Sunday? Word.”

“You like the cold too!

Yo Dub! Where you been?
Weather: Hard to say at this point but temps should be anywhere from the mid forties and up. It has been on the mild side the past week or so. Too early to tell on precip.

If you click on the map on the trip page, we will be camped in the middle at Saw Mill for Saturday evening. If you hike out Sunday (as others will be) the quickest will be be on the connector trail and up to Stone Door. This will be a "uphill" foray for you that you never forget! I think this route is about 4.5 miles.”

“If you hike out Sunday (as others will be) the quickest will be be on the connector trail and up to Stone Door. This will be a "uphill" foray for you that you never forget! I think this route is about 4.5 miles.”
Wounded Knee
4:42:49 PM
1/05/06


Dub, IJ and myself are hiking out Sunday on the Connector trail. I am so out of shape that I am dreading it. Put on to much weight in the past few months”

“Hey Dub, hope you can make it.”

“oh Geez, I put on about 10lbs over the holidays...plus my cold weather gear is heavier...now you're saying I gotta carry it uphill a bunch! Can I bring a Llama? And where can I rent one ;-)”

“Ha Ha! It is a pretty sweet uphill though.”

“Y'all have fun. Like I said a couple of months ago, I'm gonna have to have my knee scoped sometime this mont or next so any serious BPing is a no-go fo this spring prolly. *sigh*”

“Hate that you are not going to be able to make this one Currahee. Take care of that knee, and hope to see you back on the trails soon.”

“I know it is still early, but the weather is looking good.

Fri
Jan 13

Showers
56°/31° 50% Precip

Sat
Jan 14

Mostly Sunny
45°/29° 20% Precip

Sun
Jan 15

Sunny
52°/36° 10% Precip

Mon
Jan 16

Cloudy
53°/35° 10% Precip

Ewker can confirm this but won't the temp Sat night at Saw Mill be lower because we will be in the valley?”

“As Per offical topo map:
"Generally, the plateu temperatures average six degrees cooler than the valley floor temperatures."

Average rainfallin January is 5.23in. and temp is 41.6degF.

This makes sence as the plateu is about 1000 feet higher than the valley and average elevation outside of the plateu region.”