cumberland island

“And I hadn't been in 4 years. I've heard there have been some changes, like bicycles being rented. I tried to find the cumberland Island defenders site but was not successful.

Anyhoo, I actually got some time off in Jan. Jan 11 - 15 but I guess the ferry doesn't run on Wed and I want to be back by Sat. I just got my work schedule and hadn't had a chance to make reservations yet. I'm hoping it won't be too busy this time of year. I've never made it to brickhill bluff, I don't know that I can work it out to make it that far this time either.

Anyway, I just wondered how bad they've destroyed the island since I had been there last, I had heard rumers of development and such. I also wondered if there were any new trails, there is an awful lot of road to hike on after stafford beach, I had heard they were going to extend the parallel road.”

“I haven't seen the bike rentals, but understand that is happening. The Parallel Trail was extended.

I was last there in March. Did see a truckload of Greyfield Inn people coming around Plum Orchard, but anyone at Plum Orchard, I figure, is looking for a little break from total wilderness. Including me. :-)

Right now I have a reservation for the ferry and campsites in March. Will wait and see how airfares pan out, as well as my slate of potential trips in 2006. If I get there, I'm gonna try like hell to do that 10-11 mile hike to Brickhill upon arrival! I have never been there either.

I don't think you'll be too disappointed. Then again, I haven't see the bikes. On my first trip there, an ATV kept going by the Hickory Hill campsite. In March, I saw none.

Photos from March 2005 trip:
http://community.webshots.com/album/299421941NKbzlr
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“Just got this in the e-mail

Most of you know about the big loss in 2004 in which the wilderness designation was removed from the Main Road at Cumberland Island. If not, see the article that made the front page of the Atlanta Journal on 8/31: "Tours For Cumberland Island?" You can read it online at www.ajc.com. Now there's a tourism and development plan being created for the island and some aspects are already being implemented. Is no land sacred?

Here's the current memo out in the NPS/Cumberland Island newletter and on the website http://www.nps.gov/cuis/upload/Summer2006.pdf

IT'S NOT TOO LATE to send your opinions to NPS and Superintendent Brumbelow and to rally up anyone else you know who loves Cumberland Island or who is simply willing to take a few minutes of time and effort to help CONSERVE one of the last great places. There will be other opportunities to be head as well. PLEASE make the effort to be heard.

To read all the plans go to the Management section of the website at: http://www.nps.gov/cuis/parkmgmt/index.htm

PLEASE CONTACT SUPERINTENDENT BRUMBELOW. See the contact excerpt below:


Cumberland Island National Seashore
P.O. 806
St Marys, GA 32581
Phone Number: 912-882-4336
FAX Number 912-882-6284
e-mail us athttp://www.nps.gov/SER/sendmail.htm?o=8%3A%2B%23RB%2D%23%3AH%3BJ%3BJ1ZN%5B1ZDHV%3A35IP2L8%2E%29%0A&r=/cuis/contacts.htm

If you are contacting us regarding the Transportation Management Plan, please submit your comments online at the NPS Planning, Environment, and Public Comment website: http://parkplanning.nps.gov . If you are unable to submit comments electronically through this website, then you may also submit written comments to the above address, Attention: John Fry. You may also hand-deliver written comments to the visitor center in St. Marys, GA.





Did You Know?
Cumberland Island is one of the largest undeveloped barrier islands in the world. The island has one of the largest maritime forests remaining in the United States and one of the largest wilderness areas in a National Seashore on the east coast.




The main page on the NPS Cumberland website is: http://www.nps.gov/cuis/”

“DEVELOP IT!

I wanna Big Mac whenever I get the urge, and wadda 'bout campin' an' fishin' stuff...I say build a Wal-Mart, then a buncha Casino's, oh and HOTELS...yeah, then I can loose weight in the pack, (No tent Sleepy Bag, hell yeah!)”

“I just wish they would enforce some of the current rules about driving around on the island and beachs by the landholders.
Way to many cars, trucks, and ATVs on the beaches and roads.

One bunch ran us off when we got near, not on, their area. Later at sunset, the same bunch, now drunk out of their minds, came into the brichhill bluff camp where we were camped with their loud ATVs and very loud drunken behavior to 'see the sunset'.”

“I realize there have been concerns the past few years. But I'm curious as to WHOM the e-mail came from?

Over on the "other side," someone got us all up in arms about potential ATV use at Teddy Roosevelt National Park. At least three of us midwesterners wrote e-mails. And we all got e-mails back from that National Park Superintendent noting how people must have read wrong/misinterpreted some editorial in a (I think) Bismark, ND paper. ATV trails were being looked at the badlands area out there. NOT the park.

I hate looking like an idiot because someone else cries "wolf" without comprehending the details. Like I earlier stated, I know Cumby has had issues. You're getting the "cite your source" message from me due to this earlier moron. (And true, I should have done all the research on that. It was a fast deadline with comments needing to get in -- so I sent them to a place I'd hoped to some day visit without ATVs. Although I have no problem with ATVs elsewhere, in their own designated area.)

LOL, there is that enough off-topic to make this a good TT thread??!? ;-P”

“I guess I am one of those that if it is a primative area I can only see use of equipment for emergencies...there was a story a few years ago about a guy in one national forest who was injured and they would not let choppers come in to evac him. (May have been an urban legend)

My problem with alot of the stuff is that it starts small then you get the people who are not in there to enjoy it, they are in there to destroy it. Since it is public property the "not mine" sets in. If Volunteers try to enforce the rules they are "Little Hitlers" but the Service cannot ever hire enough rangers.”

“WHO did the e-mail come from?”

“I just heard there's a wildfire on Cumberland, started by lightning. 1300 acres have burned thus far.”

“link: http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/news-article.aspx?storyid=112507”

“I noted that a crew from Puerto Rico is included in the groups fighting the fire.

The National Park Service, Okefenokee Wildlife Refuge, and Puerto Rican, Kentucky, and Arkansas hand crews are working to contain the fire. Georgia Air National Guard helicopters are out dropping water to put it out.

”

“it said the fire was on the north end, is that where the Inn is?”

“No, the inn is well south of the fires.

From what I've read the fires are up near Lake Whitney and High Point.
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