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Is your Church Meeting Christmas DayView Messages“Seems it has been in the news a lot this past week about churchs cancelling their church service Christmas day. Some churchs have rescheduled their service for Sat night. One church who cancelled meeting Sunday is giving all members a DVD to play Sunday morning instead. I find this odd since that is the one service where more people show up. They say more people go to the Christmas sermon than the Easter sermon. What are the churchs doing in your area. What to you think about this. Discuss amongst yourselves.” 7:53:07 AM 12/09/05 “I find it odd that the antiChristian crowd are so interested in this. LOL ...but it's the left wing 'churches' that are doing this. ;-) last edited: 12/09/05 8:04:15 AM” 8:01:56 AM 12/09/05 “i'm catholic and they are always open for business. we'll be going christmas eve.” 8:07:31 AM 12/09/05 “stove, are you calling me anti christian? I so what are you basing it on or are you running off at the mouth like always? last edited: 12/09/05 8:16:08 AM” 8:14:05 AM 12/09/05 “I think non-Christians are more likely to attend church around Christmas, so that is why it probably seems busier around Christmas. To the Christians I know, from several denominations, Easter is the more important holiday, and additional services are usually added. My church is open Christmas Sunday.” 8:17:20 AM 12/09/05 “You are so easy. LOL” 8:17:34 AM 12/09/05 “My church has a 9 and 11 am service. It's being combined into one service at 10:30 with no Sunday School.” 8:18:51 AM 12/09/05 “The little church I went to as a child was always overflowing on Easter and Christmas. You would see so many good Christians only on those two days.” 8:20:03 AM 12/09/05 “Our church is open Christmas day. Christmas eve services are usually more packed than the day ones. Easter gets a different kind of people in the door. I've noted if the people at my church want a feel good church service they go around Christmas. If people are feeling guilty they go around Easter.” 8:20:36 AM 12/09/05 “sarge, I don't think church is busier then because of Non-Christians. I think you have a lot of Christians who just don't go to church until special sermons like Christmas or Easter.” 8:22:58 AM 12/09/05 “tb - interesting observation. I think there's something to that.” 8:24:39 AM 12/09/05 “I know that some Christian Churches only meet on Christmas if it falls on a Sunday. I didn't know the reverse is true. Ratzinger says well be open for business on Christmas.” 8:25:28 AM 12/09/05 “hmm, i have the craving to go to a nice Catholic ceremony on Christmas Eve! maybe if my grandma comes down, i'll go w/her. not that i'm a Christian, but it's just nice. you can count on the Catholics to be open for business, LOL!” 8:32:33 AM 12/09/05 “Catholic weddings are the bomb! Catholics know how to Part tay!” 8:37:00 AM 12/09/05 “Midnight Mass” 8:38:33 AM 12/09/05 “sarge, I don't think church is busier then because of Non-Christians. I think you have a lot of Christians who just don't go to church until special sermons like Christmas or Easter. - Ewker I think you need quotes around "Christians".” 8:42:59 AM 12/09/05 “I don't” 8:44:22 AM 12/09/05 “sarge, I don't think church is busier then because of Non-Christians. - Ewker I can tell you for a fact that at my church and the church's of my friend's that that is the case.” 8:44:40 AM 12/09/05 “I would think that any 'Christian' Church that isn't open on the day of Jesus's birth is more of a social organization than a 'Christian' Church.” 8:48:13 AM 12/09/05 “SS - Agreed. Ewker - I'm sure you're wondering why I know this for a fact. Here's a hint: "communion"” 8:49:20 AM 12/09/05 “s-rge is has been proven you lie, so why should anyone believe you..fact or not” 8:50:36 AM 12/09/05 “Ewker - So you want to debate me, and then when you are in a corner, you pull that out? If you had principles you would have refused to engage me in dialogue from the beginning, but you don't. I don't care if you believe me. One day we will all know who is right, and you will feel foolish for a very long time.” 8:52:30 AM 12/09/05 “DAMN!!!!” 8:53:57 AM 12/09/05 “yes you will will very foolish sarge. Really hits home when it is proven you are a liar. There is no debate in the matter. You are stating what you think are facts. Can't use communion as fact because C of C do that every Sunday..that is FACT” 9:03:46 AM 12/09/05 “I was raised in Baptist and Free-Will Baptist Churches. Frankly I can not think of a single time a service was ever cancelled for any reason. Case in point I remember one church that burned to the ground and another where the pastor died unexpectedly. Services were held both times. Once in the parking lot and once a Deacon led the services untill a new pastor could be found. I find it very strange that any Christian church would voluntarily choose to not have a service every Sunday and particularly on a high holy day such as Christmas Day and given the examples I have seen in my life I find cancelling a service for a matter of "convienence" troubling.” 9:08:09 AM 12/09/05 “Can't use communion as fact because C of C do that every Sunday..that is FACT - Ewker Ewker - What does what C of C does every sunday have to do with that?” 9:30:50 AM 12/09/05 “...of course our Church has services on sunday.” 9:51:47 AM 12/09/05 “The pastor at my old church used to conclude his Christmas service by saying "see you next Easter" and conclude the Easter service with "see you on Christmas". I always got a chuckle at that, we were always standing room only those two days. Maybe 300 on any other sunday.” 10:03:54 AM 12/09/05 “I can tell you for a fact that at my church and the church's of my friend's that that is the case.” Sarge 8:44:40 AM 12/09/05 Ewker - I'm sure you're wondering why I know this for a fact. Here's a hint: "communion"” Sarge 8:49:20 AM 12/09/05 you use communion as the fact/reason more people go. I don't buy that. If you go to church you don't go just for the communion. You go for the whole experience of being there. treebait said it the best: "I've noted if the people at my church want a feel good church service they go around Christmas. If people are feeling guilty they go around Easter.” treebait 8:20:36 AM 12/09/05 I personally don't care when people go to church or why they go. If it makes them feel better about themselves or the world around them so be it, nothing wrong with that. You don't have to go to church to be a Christian. But it seems some Christians think you have to or you are a Non-Christian. I thought it was odd that some Church's were cancelling sermons on Christmas Sunday. I wanted to see if other areas of the country were seeing the same thing.” 10:07:47 AM 12/09/05 “Ewker, many Catholics (that I know) actually go to Church specifically go for communion (many leave after receiving it). I personally think that its silly to do so, God sees ya sneak out.” 10:12:31 AM 12/09/05 ““I would think that any 'Christian' Church that isn't open on the day of Jesus's birth is more of a social organization than a 'Christian' Church.” StoveStomper 8:48:13 AM 12/09/05 http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20051207/ap_on_re_us/closed_on_christmas_6 Megachurchesare the one's doing this. Figures.... Social 'Churches' is what I call those type of 'Churches'. The rich show up to parade their finest clothing and to be seen. Monday, they are back to their usual ways.” 10:18:22 AM 12/09/05 “Ewker - I didn't mention communion because it's the reason people go. The reason I mentioned communion is because they offer it at the service. The Christians take it, the non-Christians do not. So, you can see a pretty reliable estimation of Christians vs. non-Christians. last edited: 12/09/05 10:20:16 AM” 10:18:44 AM 12/09/05 “As I observed the multi-colored horizon as the sun rose, I felt an immediate stirring in my pants. I decided then and there to commit assault on a friendly weapon. That's right, I answered the bone-a-phone. I choked the chicken. It was five against one. Hand to gland combat. I pulled the Pope. I was jerkin' the gherkin. I made the bald guy puke. I tugged the tubesteak. Boy, do I need a smoke.” 10:25:54 AM 12/09/05 “The rich show up to parade their finest clothing and to be seen. Monday, they are back to their usual ways.” StoveStomper 10:18:22 AM 12/09/05 that happens in all church's. One of the reason's I quit going. The reason I mentioned communion is because they offer it at the service. The Christians take it, the non-Christians do not. So, you can see a pretty reliable estimation of Christians vs. non-Christians. last edited: 12/09/05 10:20:16 AM” Sarge 10:18:44 AM 12/09/05 sarge, so if you go to church and don't take communion your are a Non-Christian. I sure hope you are joking because that is funny.” 10:32:24 AM 12/09/05 “"that happens in all church's." No, not all. The big one's are the worse.” 10:36:55 AM 12/09/05 “sarge, so if you go to church and don't take communion your are a Non-Christian. I sure hope you are joking because that is funny. Ewker - You apparently don't know what you are talking about. I did not say that if you do not take communion, you are not a Christian. Read my post again, without the hate in your heart. Read what I say, not what you think I will say. last edited: 12/09/05 10:40:31 AM” 10:39:22 AM 12/09/05 “Sarge you want a debate? Debate me. Sarge believes the only true Christians are his brand of mythology followers. One day when your corpse is rotting as it is in many other threads here on TT. You will realize nothing because the very few electro-chemical reactions occurring in your brain will cease. Your mythological soul will die with your body and you will cease to be. The ultimate not being. You are the worst debater on TT. When you lose you turn personal. When you are too confused and enraged to continue your mindless personal assaults you block the one who has you so beaten. You are a religious extremist of the worst kind. You are full of hate and intolerance of any that don't share your views. Even other Christian’s denominations are not good enough for you. I was once confused as to how all the Islamic factions in Iraq are having so much trouble uniting against a common enemy. However, your brand of hatred that even includes other Christians has enlighten me. Too bad that your debate skill are so lacking that there is no other means for you to enlighten anyone then by setting an example of how not to act. last edited: 12/09/05 10:45:10 AM” 10:41:12 AM 12/09/05 “it seems big/mega churchs where I live usually let you come in jeans and shirt. A long time ago you got looked down on for dressing like that, now days you don't.” 10:45:15 AM 12/09/05 “Cut Ewker some slack, Sarge. I keep telling him he needs to take a Reading Comprehension Class but he's too hardheaded to believe me. ;-)” 10:49:35 AM 12/09/05 “I like wearing jeans to Church.” 10:54:22 AM 12/09/05 “The reason I mentioned communion is because they offer it at the service. The Christians take it, the non-Christians do not. So, you can see a pretty reliable estimation of Christians vs. non-Christians. last edited: 12/09/05 10:20:16 AM” Sarge 10:18:44 AM 12/09/05 now tell me you didn't say it last edited: 12/09/05 11:05:00 AM” 11:03:04 AM 12/09/05 “non-christians take commune at many churches. They may not understand the significance of their actions. There have also been times when I have NOT taken communion because of the fact that I did not want to take it in an unworthy manner. The statistics would be skewed. last edited: 12/09/05 11:07:18 AM” 11:04:31 AM 12/09/05 “I did not say what you said I did. Not even a paraphrase, nor did I even think it. Sometimes people do not take communion because they have an issue that has gone unresolved, so I wouldn't have said that. What I said is the Christians take it, and the non-Christians do not. I did not say that if you do not take communion, you are not a Christian. If you didn't drink coffee this morning, does that mean you are not a coffee drinker? Of course not. But with your logic, it does. Your logic is wrong.” 11:06:26 AM 12/09/05 “Our church will have normal services Christmas morning. I don't know of any other churces in our area that have deviated from a normal schedule either.” 11:07:29 AM 12/09/05 “non-christians take commune at many churches. They may not understand the significance of their actions - birch That is true birch. But, in this discussion we were talking about my church and the churches of my friends. In our churches it almost never happens, so my original claim is valid. The reason it almost never happens is because we make a big deal about it before serving communion, and quote the scripture to explain it. In fact, a friend of mine who sometimes performs communion at his church and I just discussed this about 2 weeks ago. Our church's go to great lengths to make sure those that take it meet certain biblical requirements. Because of that, we are able to get a very good guage of who is Christian and who is not.” 11:09:01 AM 12/09/05 “hahaha..my logic is right on with you. You can spin it anyway you want which you normally do.” 11:09:31 AM 12/09/05 “The statistics would be skewed. - birch The statistics would be skewed only slightly, and are less so because we know most of the people who attend anyways. Like I said, "So, you can see a pretty reliable estimation of Christians vs. non-Christians." On top of that, there is the same factor on non-Christmas/Easter services, so the variation would be throughout the year. last edited: 12/09/05 11:11:16 AM” 11:10:27 AM 12/09/05 ““hahaha..my logic is right on with you. You can spin it anyway you want which you normally do.”Ewker Again, one day we'll see. One of us will have the last figurative laugh.” 11:12:04 AM 12/09/05 “is that the best you can do...lol lets hope God forgives you for all your lies and insults just on TT. No telling what you do outside of here last edited: 12/09/05 11:19:27 AM” 11:17:05 AM 12/09/05 “Ewker - Let's pretend you are right. Explain how your statement is the same as mine. Are you saying that my coffee analogy is wrong? How so? Teach me something Ewker instead of just spewing insults (and subsequently pretending like I'm the one being insulting). Show me how the coffee analogy is incorrect. Let's see your logical powers at work.” 11:21:26 AM 12/09/05
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