Global Socialism

“http://news.independent.co.uk/world/politics/article341967.ece

UN unveils plan to release untapped wealth of...$7 trillion (and solve the world's problems at a stroke)

International problems - and solutions

PANDEMIC DISEASES

Millions of people across the developing world have died from malaria, tuberculosis and HIV/Aids, as well as from other pandemics. Vaccines needed to avert them require much-needed investment.

SOLUTION: An advance commitment by rich countries to buy $3bn (£1.7bn) worth of vaccines would be enough to encourage pharmaceutical giants to invest in finding medicines that would eliminate these pandemics.

SAVING: $600bn

ALTERNATIVE SOLUTION: Vaccines are needed but more should be done in the meantime. Extra aid is needed for simple tools such as mosquito nets that would curb spread of malaria.

PARIAH STATES

Big business and global money ignore countries where they see the risk of conflict outweighing their potential profit margins.

SOLUTION: Guarantees by international organisations such as the International Monetary Fund to lower the cost of borrowing for poor nations by underwriting investors' loans to conflict-torn states.

SAVING: $22bn

ALTERNATIVE SOLUTION: Sometimes large volumes of cash are needed and this is one. Live8 showed there was huge support among taxpayers for higher aid to countries in distress.

Hitting a commitment made in the 1960s of 0.7 per cent of GDP would unlock $140bn a year.

NATIONAL BANKRUPTCY

Once great nations such as Brazil and Argentina were reduced to the status of beggars after poor economic policy combined with debts with national and international lenders.

SOLUTION: A system to enable countries to take loans linked to their average economic growth rate to ensure that they do not have to cut public spending to raise the money to borrow needed funds during the hard times.

SAVING: $600bn

ALTERNATIVE SOLUTION: A system to allow countries to seek protection from their creditors in the same way that US companies can take so-called Chapter 11 bankruptcy.

SPECULATIVE INVESTORS

Poor countries suffer most from swings in investment tastes by the big global investors that means money can leave as soon as it arrives.

SOLUTION: Enable countries to buy "insurance policies" against big swings in growth that would ensure that they did not have to cut public spending every time. In 1997 it wreaked havoc across South-east Asia.

SAVING: $2,900bn

ALTERNATIVE SOLUTION: Curb speculative investment by imposing a tax on foreign exchange transactions aimed at destabilising a currency. It could directly raise funds for development while preventing the worst excesses of the markets.

GLOBAL WARMING

Scientists believe human activity has led to climate change and disappearing Arctic ice. The world's poor also have to live with lethal storms and floods.

UN SOLUTION: A system of international trading in permits to allow pollution that would encourage countries to cut their emission of greenhouse gases so they can sell their "right to pollute" to other states. UNDP says it is more effective than just setting targets.

SAVING: $3,620bn

ALTERNATIVE SOLUTION: An international approach is needed but one that prevents people from causing harm by setting pollution targets rather than trying to bribe them not to. Also agree global airline tax.

BRAIN DRAIN

Millions of skilled workers leave their home countries every year in search of a better life in the West. In some states nine out 10 professionals have left.

SOLUTION: Enable countries to borrow on the open markets against the money workers send home. The capital would be used to invest in the country to build infrastructure that would discourage people from leaving.

SAVING: $31bn

ALTERNATIVE SOLUTION: An international code of ethical guidelines overseen by bodies such as the World Health Organisation (for doctors and nurses) to monitor the harm that migration of professionals causes.

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The smaller the scale, the better a chance socialism has to work, and even then only for a short time period. This is the largest possible scale of socialism. It has zero chance at success.”

“When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory:

And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth [his] sheep from the goats:

And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left.

Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world:

For I was an hungred, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in:

Naked, and ye clothed me: I was sick, and ye visited me: I was in prison, and ye came unto me.

Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, and fed [thee]? or thirsty, and gave [thee] drink?

When saw we thee a stranger, and took [thee] in? or naked, and clothed [thee]?

Or when saw we thee sick, or in prison, and came unto thee?

And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done [it] unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done [it] unto me.

Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:

For I was an hungred, and ye gave me no meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me no drink:

I was a stranger, and ye took me not in: naked, and ye clothed me not: sick, and in prison, and ye visited me not.

Then shall they also answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, or athirst, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister unto thee?

Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did [it] not to one of the least of these, ye did [it] not to me.

And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.”

“Violin - When you read the Bible, did you somehow get the impression that giving and doing good is not something you do because your heart compells you, but because the government forces you to?

The Bible is filled with lessons that it isn't doing good works that puts us in a good light with God, but because we have a good relationship with God, the fruit we bear will be "good works".

Out of context, you are right. Being forced to do good is a good thing.

In context, you completely miss the point.”

“Here is what Matthew Henry has to say about it:

This is a description of the last judgment. It is as an explanation of the former parables. There is a judgment to come, in which every man shall be sentenced to a state of everlasting happiness, or misery. Christ shall come, not only in the glory of his Father, but in his own glory, as Mediator. The wicked and godly here dwell together, in the same cities, churches, families, and are not always to be known the one from the other; such are the weaknesses of saints, such the hypocrisies of sinners; and death takes both: but in that day they will be parted for ever. Jesus Christ is the great Shepherd; he will shortly distinguish between those that are his, and those that are not. All other distinctions will be done away; but the great one between saints and sinners, holy and unholy, will remain for ever. The happiness the saints shall possess is very great. It is a kingdom; the most valuable possession on earth; yet this is but a faint resemblance of the blessed state of the saints in heaven. It is a kingdom prepared. The Father provided it for them in the greatness of his wisdom and power; the Son purchased it for them; and the blessed Spirit, in preparing them for the kingdom, is preparing it for them. It is prepared for them: it is in all points adapted to the new nature of a sanctified soul. It is prepared from the foundation of the world. This happiness was for the saints, and they for it, from all eternity. They shall come and inherit it. What we inherit is not got by ourselves. It is God that makes heirs of heaven. We are not to suppose that acts of bounty will entitle to eternal happiness. Good works done for God's sake, through Jesus Christ, are here noticed as marking the character of believers made holy by the Spirit of Christ, and as the effects of grace bestowed on those who do them. The wicked in this world were often called to come to Christ for life and rest, but they turned from his calls; and justly are those bid to depart from Christ, that would not come to him. Condemned sinners will in vain offer excuses. The punishment of the wicked will be an everlasting punishment; their state cannot be altered. Thus life and death, good and evil, the blessing and the curse, are set before us, that we may choose our way, and as our way so shall our end be.”

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“Violin, now when the final hours were coming to Christ on the Cross, there were two criminals. One condemed him the other begged for forgiveness. I seem to remember the Lord giving grace to the one who made an effort to get help (asked for forgiveness). NOW did Christ look at the one who cursed him and say, "Woe be to you, you are a blithering idiot but I will give you forgiveness though you are doing nothing for yourself."

Since we see grace is given to those who "help themselves" by taking some action i.e. asking for forgiveness and then taking an action to show their pennance, I am betting that when the Lord returns, he won't be looking at Ted Kennedy, Hillary Clinton and the other Liberal Socialists and saying, "Blessed are you for stealing from others to support the sloth of those who will not help themselves."”

“What troll X says is interesting in that it exemplifies one move that many in the Right on economic policy (who wish to assert their affiliations with Christianity) use to get around Jesus's teaching regarding those in poverty, misery, etc. They judge them and condemn them as responsible for their own misery.”

“xl isn't a troll. He's a legit kayaker named Dan.

pedxing - Your view on what Jesus' teachings are regarding those in poverty is derived from an interpretation where much of His teachings are ignored. It's selective learning on your part.”

“I stand corrected. Xl I apologize.”

“help yourself
help others

nuff said”

“I was here years ago...had to take off to improve my position in life, thanks for the support Sarge.

Ped, no apology needed since the charge did not deal with me, and I agree with your opinion of trolls.

One of the neat reasons I love Hiking is that it is truly almost a libertarian environment. If you were hurting on the trail I will help you all I can. To the point of where some may remember I carried closed to 85 lbs of my gear, my hiking partners gear (He was quite sick at the time) and some other gear. But you know what....if someone wants to be carried for no reason....gonna be a lonely night waiting for S&R.”

“Where can I send my mosquito net so I can stop malaria?

Maybe if I send a couple of condoms we can stop HIV?”

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“But, but, but, if you're not doing anything wrong you have nothing to fear.”

“great, another idea for the republicans.”

“IT is frightening when you have law without morality.”

“Morality rolls off the edge of the table with uneven legs of dogma.”

“my dogma just bit your catma”

“What's the big deal this country is run by liars and crooks?”

“Well we keep reelecting them.”

“So, XL agrees that the Republican majority is made up of crooks and liars.

Just thought I'd make sure it was duly noted.

:)”

“duely noted sir!”

“LOL....you are a well trained socialist. Remember the corrupt career of GIVING FREE MONEY started in the 1960's/

Granted everyone who is involved expects the government to pay their way.”

“LOL...WOW...

When the farm's prize-winning pig, Old Major, calls a meeting of all the animals of Manor Farm, he tells them that he has had a dream in which mankind is gone, and animals are free to live in peace and harmony. His ideals can be compared to anarchocommunism. He compares the humans to parasites, and then proceeds to teach the animals a revolutionary song, "Beasts of England". The other animals begin to hope and dream for the revolution of such a day.

The pigs walked on two feet and they adopted many of Mr. Jones' customs and principles. The pigs have violated every one of the rules set out in the beginning. This is when we come to the theme of this book: power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely.





And then we have REALITY....Venezuela had been promised they would get rid of the EEEVIL Capitalists in return for the GOOD SOCIALISTS....Now the PIGS are truly in charge....here we go again...





Chavez' Move Against TV Spurs Outcry
Tuesday, January 16, 2007 3:18 PM EST
The Associated Press
By CHRISTOPHER TOOTHAKER

CARACAS, Venezuela (AP) — The bespectacled talk show host grimaces into the television camera, raises a finger and accuses President Hugo Chavez of using "tropical neo-fascism to trample Venezuelans' rights."

Sweat beads up above Miguel Angel Rodriguez's eyebrows as he berates government officials, calling them liars and challenging them to prove their accusations that he is an "imperialist" pawn of the CIA.

Welcome to Radio Caracas Television, the channel Chavez loves to hate.

As he accelerates his push toward socialism, Chavez has decided that Venezuela's oldest private TV station must go off the air for good when its broadcast license expires on May 28.

"Their days are numbered. Squeal, kick, whatever they do: the license of that fascist channel is gone," Chavez said Saturday. "RCTV's signal will be nationalized for Venezuelans."

Emboldened by his sweeping re-election victory, Chavez now seems intent on transforming Venezuela's broadcast media. An expanding web of state-run and state-financed radio and TV stations shapes his image. And almost every Sunday, he preaches socialist ideals on "Hello President," his folksy talk-show program that runs for five hours or more.

RCTV, in contrast, has been a constant irritant to Chavez. Along with a cadre of other private TV channels and newspapers he accuses of spreading disinformation and conspiring against him, he says RCTV produces "poison" through "grotesque shows" that promote consumerism and violence.

Top RCTV executive Marcel Granier insists his channel has done nothing wrong and is being punished for criticizing the government as part of an "autocratic scheme." He argues RCTV has the legal right to keep broadcasting until 2022, and plans to challenge Chavez in court.

RCTV has been one of Venezuela's leading TV networks since 1953, broadcasting a mix of news, talk shows, sports, soap operas and its own version of "Who Wants to Be a Millionaire?"

The weekly program "Radio Rochela," which like "Saturday Night Live" often lampoons politicians, was a Venezuelan institution long before Chavez was first elected in 1998.

For now, the studios still bustle with giggling teenagers seeking autographs from soap stars and comedians practicing poking fun at Chavez for "Radio Rochela." Another recent skit mocked Chavez's mentor, Fidel Castro, with an impersonator dancing and rapping in olive-green fatigues, saying: "Give me more gasoline!"

But the mood has grown somber among RCTV's 2,500 employees.

The station's supporters call Chavez's threat to deny RCTV a new license an example of how freedom of speech will be sacrificed in the "socialist republic of Venezuela" that Chavez proclaimed as he began his third term. Nearly 100 horn-honking cars snaked through Caracas Sunday in one protest caravan, with "Don't Mess With The Media!" scrawled in white shoe polish across their windows.

The case also has drawn international attention, with statements of concern from the Organization of American States, the Roman Catholic Church, Paris-based Reporters Without Borders and the New York-based Committee to Protect Journalists.

Chavez says he fully respects freedom of speech, and that turning over the channel's frequency to a "community" station will help democratize the airwaves, providing "communication power to those who almost never have a voice."

Venezuela's radio dial now includes hundreds of mostly state-financed and Chavez-friendly "community" stations, and three state-run TV channels have been launched since Chavez took office. They feature musicians singing songs about "El Comandante," segments calling opposition leaders CIA agents and documentaries about Argentine-born revolutionary Ernesto "Che" Guevara. Cuban-produced cartoons feature peasants who prevent invading soldiers from seizing a palm-dotted island.

Chavez also finances Telesur, the new Latin American network meant to provide a South American alternative to CNN. Telesur already claims 2.5 million cable viewers in 17 countries. The Venezuelan government holds a 51 percent stake, with smaller shares owned by Argentina, Cuba, Uruguay and Bolivia. Next up is Radiosur, an effort to share content with existing radio stations across the continent.

The move against RCTV won't likely end Chavez's efforts to rewrite the rules that govern Venezuela's airwaves. Another frequent forum for opposition views is 24-hour all-news channel Globovision. Without elaborating, Telecommunications Minister Jesse Chacon said authorities want to set up "a structure in which the media owner isn't the owner of 24-hour messages, 365 days a year."

RCTV, Globovision and two other channels are what Chavez has called the "Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse." He has accused RCTV of one-sided coverage and said the channels effectively supported a 2002 failed coup by broadcasting cartoons and movies instead of the street protests that aided his return to power. Pro-Chavez mobs gathered outside RCTV and other stations during the coup, shouting insults and in some cases hurling rocks.

Two of those four channels have since toned down their criticism, while RCTV and Globovision have stayed their course despite sometimes-violent demonstrations. During pro-Chavez protests in 2004, an Associated Press reporter watched as a Chavez supporter fired shots at RCTV's studios while others rammed an ice cream truck into the wall, then set the truck afire.”

“As former Vice President Al Gore waits to hear if he has won this year's Nobel Peace Prize for his tireless effort on climate change, a new video will air this weekend capturing Gore on a fuel-guzzling private jet!

http://www.drudgereport.com/gore.htm”

“Hypocrite Gore”

“How's the fight to promote Global Fascism going, boys?”

“maRKo doesn't understand the concept of a thread subject, LOL.”

“Just teasing you knuckleheads.

>8^b~~”

“Marky Mark for someone who allegedly works in a Library (when wifey take the collar off we assume) you don't know a whole lot about Poltical Terms.

Please give us one time any of us have advocated a Government Control on what we can purchase or any other related topic that could be inferred as Fascisim.

I realize that in the itty bitty world of Lefty Feelings you really have no logical answer so you naturally go to "emotion words". I am thinking if you were smart enough to get a "sugar momma" so you won't have to work all that hard...you might crack open one of the political books.”

“One only has to read some of your insane rants to see the goose-stepper in you, Dainty Dan.
Have the real fire fighters let you ride along lately?

We must hike together sometime!”

“Silly Libbycons!!!”

“Social Dancingism!

and The Global Waltz on Terrorrrrr”

“"I am thinking if you were smart enough to get a "sugar momma" so you won't have to work all that hard."
XLax

Hey Dainty Dan, I'm thinkin' about breakin' my own rules in regard to talkin' trash about another man's wife.

Since you have talked so much trash about my wife for so long I guess it might be OK.

What do ya think, should I cut loose?
You have a daughter too, right?”

“Whereedeeeegoooo?????????Markoooooo????”

“That's a big no-no. XL dude, if you're doing that, you should stop.”

“Sure when they come for the smokers...no biggie you are not a smoker.

When they come for the SUV drivers, NO biggie you are not an SUV driver

When they come for the Gun owners, NO biggie you are not a gun owner

LOL...well now

FEBRUARY 1--Mississippi legislators this week introduced a bill that would make it illegal for state-licensed restaurants to serve obese patrons. Bill No. 282, a copy of which you'll find below, is the brainchild of three members of the state's House of Representatives, Republicans W. T. Mayhall, Jr. and John Read, and Democrat Bobby Shows. The bill, which is likely dead on arrival, proposes that the state's Department of Health establish weight criteria after consultation with Mississippi's Council on Obesity. It does not detail what penalties an eatery would face if its grub was served to someone with an excessive body mass index.

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/years/2008/0201081fat1.html

How far does it go before there is noone left to fight for you.”

“XL - This was one of the first threads that you posted to.”

“dead on arrival

Damn RINO.
I voted against John Read last election.
That idiot runs a very high priced drug store in my town. I know him personally. You would think fat people would be good for his biz.
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“Can you imagine a restaurant having to turn somebody away because they're fat? How would they say it? lol
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“Might be some AYCE Buffet owners put him up to it? LOL
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“so what's wrong with the government stepping in to help obviously obese people?

laws are created to protect people. sometimes people need to be protected form even themselves.”

“sacco - "fool me once, shame on — shame on you. Fool me — you can't get fooled again."”

“Despite global temperatures not rising in 10 years ...

http://www.desertdispatch.com/opinion/global_3006___article.html/warming_tax.html

Los Angeles considers global warming tax”

“Better get your charts out moonbore.”

“Remember, many Europeean and Asia economies can survive in negative growth, but not in the USA( Unlimited Securities of America)”

“Wasn't this thread started by a goat?”

“What is the deal with the Olympic torch? Can't these mouth breathers find something to do?

Ever notice that all public disruptions are caused by Liberals?”

“saleboring - my words are correct. 10 years - no global warming.”