ultralight question

“Hi, new here and new to ultralight backpacking - just a quick question that I cant' really find any discussion of. Toilet paper. First, how do you carry it? I don't want the weight of a baggie, but I've found just stuffing it into a pocket turns it into lint.

Also, I'm thinking I should take the big leap to single-ply. Is this really practical? I don't want to use twice as much as two-ply - what would be the point. So are their any techniques to prevent "punch through"? I'm thinking maybe backing it up with a leaf off a tree or something like that, but can't easily test that out right now.

And if you do go single-ply - which is sturdier - one ply from a normal two-ply or that industrial one-ply you find in gas stations?

Thanks in advance!”

“Personally if I do have to go, and that’s only happened twice in some 15 years, I like a good thick paper. I carry a couple pieces of paper towel folded up in my first aid kit. I know they sell these small rolls in a plastic container that looks pretty cool. Or you could be like Spirit Coyote and use leaves or you could be like Stove Stomper and use your hand.”

“Most of the world doesn't use toilet paper so they always go ultralight.”

“Buy some BabyWipes and let em dry out. They are just about bulletproof.........”

“Hardcore ultralighters either don't wipe their butt or they use pinecones.”

“No, paper towel is too thick. I'm trying to reduce weight here. Also, I don't like the idea of wiping with a buggy or fungusy leaf.

And may I say that stove stomper sounds like a nut!”

“baby wipes are waayyyy too heavy!”

“Why carry TP....just beg it off someone else....If you ain't carrying it...you are ultralight”

“ok, be picky..........use your hand then........these ultralighters.....jeeeeshhhhhhh..
last edited: 2/24/06 8:04:58 AM”

“Kleenex travel packs, wraped in plastic one pack is enough for a weekend. Baby wipes are also great for preventing Monkey Butt.”

“Leave the TP at home, use a pinecone. 8D

In all seriousness, I really don’t worry too much about the weight of the baggy and TP. You’re taking about maybe a couple of ounces tops on a weekend backpacking trip. If you are looking at cutting your weight start with your big items first. Your, stove, tent, sleeping bag, and pack are the items to focus on first.”

““Why carry TP....just beg it off someone else....If you ain't carrying it...you are ultralight”

Yeah, I have XL carry my cigars, coffee, and I've seen him carry other people's packs too.”

“Just trim off the dingleberries when they get too numberous.”

“... or fry em to add to pancakes.......”

“Jeez, do you guys really do that? Use your hands and pine-cones?

Actually, the begging thing sounds pretty good. Imagine being approached on the trail with someone asking for toilet paper! Hahahaha!”

“Share your pinecone.”

“Imagine being approached on the trail with someone asking for toilet paper! Hahahaha!”
x3r0x
8:13:01 AM
2/24/06


Been there, bought the t-shirt.
Had a bad case of the trots second day of a five day Rocky Mt. backpack. Yep, went begging for TP. Crash Bang was nice enough to give me some of his later in the trip.”

“wow, if you're concerned about the weight of a ziplock bag you're a mega ultralighter...i have the same affliction, or gift depending on the way you look at it, that nigal does...i usually don't have to go when i'm out”

“It took me 2 days on a 10-day thru hike for me to realize that there is no felling better than the feeling from #&%!$ting in the woods.”

“Zip lock baggies are one of technologies greatest gift to all backpackers, including ultra-lighters. Anything that could be ruined by water should be kept in something waterproof.”

““It took me 2 days on a 10-day thru hike for me to realize that there is no felling better than the feeling from #&%!$ting in the woods.”

My buddy Larry will spend all morning complaing that he has to take a dump and how he doesn't want to have to and then he'll spend all afternoon telling me what agreat dump he had and how good he feels. Great conversationalist that Larry.”

“LOL@nigal...i can't tell ya how many newbies i've hiked with that had the same feeling”

“just stick a cork up your butt for the entire trip”

“I'm so glad girls don't poo! You poor guys.”

“I used to brush my teeth with pinecones to save the weight of a toothbrush, but the last few tasted like schit so I went back to the toothbrush.”

“Hiking all constipated is not true ultra-lightisum.”

“A ziploc snadwich baggie weighs very little in the scheme of things. And I pack light.
But I don't leave TP at home. No-thank you! I like my paper products for my delicate nether regions ;-)

And rember, you use less of high end TP, so buy the best!”

“Just use a snowball, leaves you nice and clean.

"watch where the husky's go
Don't eat no yellow snow"

Don't eat brown snow either

When I was a kid I spent a summer fruitpicking.
Other pickers would just use a peach.
Of course because we were paid by how much we picked, that peach went in the bin with all the rest.”

“Snow actually workes really well.....

More tips...

I recommend cutting every other bristle out of your tooth brush, after cutting the handle down of course...



of course.”

“I do the exact same thing only different. I don't remove any bristles, but DO cut each of them in half. Thus, I have all the bristles needed to maintain my high standard of dental hygiene and the weight savings as well.”

“If you cut the toothbrush in half lengthways, you get the weight savings of 1/2 the toothbrush, 1/2 the bristles and the financial savings in that you now have 2 toothbrushes.”

“Cut them in half lengthwise and crossways. Even better. Oh, and as a preemptive strike, still remove every other one. After all, I only have 4 teeth.”

“it cuts the amount of hand lotion you carry......

Back on topic:

Duct Tape has many uses...use your imagination....”

“manuka and numblefoot...Brilliant!”

“perhaps we are being cruel to x3r0x, he may be trying to be ultralight for altruistic reasons to save wear and erosion to the wilderness, taking the Ansel Adams "take nothing but photographs, leave nothing but footprints" to the next level by leaving shallower footprints.

or it may be a shallower reason.


I love the smell of Troll in the morning.”

“For a serious answer spend the money on those "camping" TP rolls. They only way a couple of ouces and come in a nifty plastic carry case thinggy that's made form that clear packaging stuff.”

“I love the smell of frying troll in the morning.”

“So are their any techniques to prevent "punch through"?

don't wipe so hard...nobody likes a poopy finger”

“or use a child's tootbrush, they already are small”

“use a childs tooth brush to wipe your butt??!!...now that's just mean
last edited: 2/24/06 10:59:01 AM”

“Look in the $1.00 travel size bins at your local grocery store. They have small rolls there that pack very nice.”

““use a childs tooth brush to wipe your butt??!!.."

LOL

My mistake, I thought the thread had partially converted to toothbrushes and brushing teeth, not brushing one's . . .”

“I carry a small roll smashed flat. It doesn't weigh that much. I keep it in a plastic bag so it will stay dry.”

“I like the travel rolls of Charmin in the plastic case. I hate it when my tp gets smashed and coated with whatever grime is inhabiting the bottom of my pack. The extra couple oz is no big deal. I'd venture a guess that the plastic case weighs no more than the cardboard roll on a standard roll of tp. Besides, one of those rolls lasts long enough for a couple weekend trips.”

“Trail Talk has turned to shit. Lots of posters present, all of whom are experts on the subject!

Ultra light - Don't carry any toilet paper. Likewise, don't carry any food. It's so simple: Nothing in, nothing out!
last edited: 2/24/06 1:55:59 PM”

“i wait till a roll gets down to about 1/4 of the roll and then remove the cardboard”

“Just trim off the dingleberries when they get too numberous.”
StoveStomper
9:10:56 AM
2/24/06

The reasons I manscape:

1. less weight

2. No Klingons

3. I look hella more sexy (I know, you didn't think it was possible)

Now. As it's probably been stated, no true ULer would carry TP. But I'm also big into LNT so I don't use leaves. I roll in dirt”

“Just trim off the dingleberries when they get too numberous.”
StoveStomper
9:10:56 AM
2/24/06

The reasons I manscape:

1. less weight

2. No Klingons

3. I look hella more sexy (I know, you didn't think it was possible)

Now. As it's probably been stated, no true ULer would carry TP. But I'm also big into LNT so I don't use leaves. I roll in dirt”

“Drink a half bottle of Pepto-Bismol before you go out. It'll lock you up tighter than Fort Knox for a couple of days”

“IF you aren't technically "carrying" any thing....is it Ultralight hiking?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVwbUljGs3g”