This old House

“I'm painting the exterior of my home in a few weeks. It's a tall colonial built in 26' with a full dormer/gear room. Sherwin Williams Paint rulz. Good luck with the remodel Ruby, it sounds like fun?!”

“"I'm painting the exterior of my home in a few weeks. It's a tall colonial built in 26' with a full dormer/gear room. Sherwin Williams Paint rulz. Good luck with the remodel Ruby, it sounds like fun?!”
Buddha Bear
3:46:45 PM
5/09/07"

Show off!


;)”

“I picked up the last of the bathroom this evening. White subway tile trim pieces and adhesive.

What color ya painting BB?”

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Home - weathered shingle (tan in swatch)
Trim - Roycroft vellum (whiteish - not shown in swatch)
Accent - Roycroft Bottle Green (green in swatch)
Door - Aurora Brown (reddish/brown in swatch)

Note - The period colors that Sherwin Williams advertise is awsome for straight unmarried guys. A true no-brainer on the match. :)

My neighborhood is all Arts and Crafts type homes built between 1900-1930.

Fun stuff - am considering the subway tile for my kitchen next year DHutch - be sure to post pics!
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“Party at Buddha Bear's?”

“Hey Mark - Come on down! I'll post pics when I'm done with this two-year-project-that-has-kept-me-off-the-trail!”

“BTW - Ruby - Calvin & Hobbes need to help you with that heavy lifting!”

“That sounds like a lot of houses in Baltimore.

There are Arts and Crafts houses and Sears Craftsman kit houses of that age in neighborhoods here and there.”

“Yeah, I have one of the Sears Homes - the thing is built like a tank. There are a few Alladin homes on the street as well, and the entire town I live in is going through the process of becoming a National Historic Site (almost all of the homes were built between 1900-1930), which would make the city the largest NHS in the country.”

“It's great to hear traditional homes are being kept that way Buddha. I hate seeing a beautiful old house hiding under 25 coats of what ever was on sale. My wife says she wants to build a new house and live in a house no one else has lived in but I love my old house.”

“Buddha, your house sounds beautiful. Nice colors.”

“Nigel, tell her how nice it'll be when the new house you've built is your *pick a generation of inheritors* gets it. ;-)

old houses are nice, but even more so are old houses that have been in the same family. i think that means so much more, personally.”

“Cool BB. We need pictures when you are done. It sounds awesome. My neighbors found the receipt for their Wards kit house in the floor boards when redoing the floors. What a great piece of history you have!”

“Sounds very cool, BB. I even like the (evil) brown for your house since its historically correct. There's way too many variations on "tan" around here.

Ruby, you know you'll enjoy the results even more after all of this. Besides, its good exercise!”

“No kidding on the exercise!! Last night I hung drywall with Jon. Turns out I'm pretty good at it. We stumbled home exhausted and filthy dirty at 12:30 a.m. I made the comment to Jon that at least we were getting a workout. This morning when we woke up barely able to move Jon said, "You call that a workout. I call it a slow painful death." But I have lost 5 pounds in the last 3 days. Maybe I should do this for a living!! =D”

“Hanging drywall is hard work. Helped the old man fix up the garage a number of years ago putting drywall up.

Picked up the cabinets last night...I #&%!$ing hate Lowe's.”

“Damn BB, sounds like a nice area. I'm a craftsman fan. Wasn't your neighborhood facing eminent domain threats just a year or two ago? That would have been a crime.

Drywall I'm cool with.
Mudding can be a pain though.”

“HPM - there was an area facing the eminent domain a few years ago. Our town has almost no big-box stores in it; sits right on Lake Erie, and is 10 minutes from downtown Cleveland. The big boxers wanted to tear down a bunch of old homes to build thier BS. They lost, lol! Now, instead of a Home Depot and Walmart, a brand new mom and pop hardware store opened and I can still get a muffin from some old lady from Germany who wears the Bavarian outfit for 50 cents. Best muffins and bread that you can buy.

HPM - does the new homestead have any old-timey features?

BTW - renovators - go to http://www.rejuvenation.com/index.html?ipb=GA2001

It may be a little pricey, but the stuff is built just like the originals, and made right here in the USA.

quote from the caddy-log - "Why are we still a privately owned company. Why is that important? Private ownership allows us certain freedoms. We can resist the pressure to move manufacturing overseas - and have"”

“Hmmmmmmm, Bavarian muffins!

That stuff is pricey because it isn't cheap crap.”

“Jays Old House Website

I've been meaning to do this for some time, but this thread has inspired me. "After" photos coming as soon as I get my digi cam to work again, and after I paint the outside. Any/all photos of your renovations would be appreciated. I love new ideas, and am looking forward to DHutch's subway tile pics.

BB
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Stabilization is almost complete. After a month of nothing but jacking, the roof ridge is straight again.”

“Damnit! Will someone please say something about the fact Buddha Bear has an arts and craft page on his site? Please don't make me be the one! LOL!

Looks neat as hell BB.”

“Hey BB -- Love your website! I must take some time to really delve in to some of those lins.

My house is claimed to be 1902 but is interesting because it's Arts and Crafts style on the first floor and trimmed in Victorian Style on the second. Being right in between the two periods, I guess it makes sense - modern where the company sees, traditional where the family sleeps. It's a 4 square with some great details like a floor to ceiling Arts and Crafts style archway into the dining room featuring glass book cases and a beautiful walk in pantry.

I really need to get my digital camera working to document progress as you have. Nice job.

Just got the word that the bathroom job will not be started until June so until then I'll work on getting those "Before" pics and will be sure to include one of the pile of bathroom that is patiently awaiting installation on my living room floor.

Happy House fixin!”

“Niiiice BB.

Ours has some craftsman flavorings but modern craftsman "style" just ain't the same as a real craftsman. Much the same I'm digging the new house.
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“HPM, I like your place. We liked that style when we were looking around for our place 3 years ago. Prominent triangular roofline from the front, etc.

Ended up with a colonial. I should post pics of the tear-off, they are right in the middle of it all today.”

“I grew up in a colonial style house that was all pink brick. I still love that kind of brick on houses.”

“lemme get this straight..

back in 1926, you could buy a prefab kit from sears, through a catalog, to build a complete house... for 2,923 dollars?! i wish that was the case now, even with inflation, that'd only be 32563.04 for a house, even if you had to put it together..”

“Pretty cool house huh? There's a company around here selling modular houses that look better than most of the stick built houses here. But not better than mine, of course. ;) The end result looks to be about 2500 SF and farmhouse style with good detailing.”

“i only wish modulars were priced similarly, today, though. my parents were looking at some modular homes, and it cost just about the same as having a completely custom blueprint drawn up and built!”

“So LZ, you are restoring the house in the photo?

If so, very cool, got any more photos to share?”

““So LZ, you are restoring the house in the photo?

If so, very cool, got any more photos to share?”
humanpackmule
9:15:05 AM
5/11/07

The firm I work for was responsible for the design for the stabilization of the house. Restoration will happen later; our main concern was to get the building into a state were it isn't going to continue to deteriorate or fall down any time soon.

I'll see what I can find some newer pictures of the house from the last site visit. It's really back from the dead. When we first looked at it back in the fall of 2005, we didn't think it would make it through the winter.”

“Here’s a before and after shot of the front.


Fall 2005


March 2007”

“Wow, that looks much better!”

“Cool. Looking good.
It's nice to see old buildings being given new life.”

“Wow, I would have written that one off. Doesn't look anything like its old self!”

“I gotta ask, what was the reasoning behind salvage? Sentimental value for someone with deep pockets? Historical value for the area?”

“Historical value. It was built in the early 1830s as a mine managers home and company bank for an iron mine that was started there that ran from about 1830 - 1856. It’s the only remaining structure left from the original 1830s mining town. In the later 1800s it became part of an outdoor club and was actually where TR was staying when he found out McKinley was shot.”

“wow - i'm amazed it still stands!”

“"...some old lady from Germany who wears the Bavarian outfit for 50 cents."
Buddha Bear
4:47:42 PM
5/10/07

Yeah, but how much are the muffins??”

“You should see the "new" project I'm working on. It's an old farmhouse built in 1810. It’s in better shape than the house above. Most of the structural framing is still solid; it’s all mortise, tendon, and wood peg construction, no nails holding it together.”

“Gojo would Looove that house!”

“nice job on that house zac! it really is a night and day comparison.

onifactor - I was amazed by the price as well. In the back of the catalog, they have upgrade package pricing as well, and it's pretty funny. It was only like $300 to upgrade to hot water heat over forced air.

The wood in the home is crazy thick. I'm sure Zac will tell ya that a 2x4 back in the 20's is nowhere near what a 2x4 is today.

OK, back to work for me. Thanks for sharing the pics HPM & zac.

BTW - love your new home HPM & tree - looked at all the pics - your kid is getting big!

BB”

“Okay so I was picking up the last 2 cabinets from the place I hate last night and I have trouble fitting them into the jeep. I did not realize the lazy susan corner floor cabinet was a large as it was, so the 18" floor drawer cabinet won't fit.

I try putting it in the front seat and as I am sliding it in (que the porn music) the corner clips the rear view mirror, then shatters the windshield.

This project keeps costing me more and more.”

“Wall cabinets are up and I didn't have to shim anything! Could not believe the walls were square.

I did measure wrong though so I need to take the 24" cabinet and get a 12"”

“sounds like you have the first square home in the country WK! Lookin' forward to the pics.

BB”

“Those 2x4's are probably something like 2 7/8" x 3 7/8". Also, for SYP #2 now, the bending strength is about 1500 psi, if memory serves. Back then it was probably 2500 psi or more. The old wood was good wood.

Now the race is on to see who can put that into Out of Context.

Congrats to all the renovation folks out there. Nice photos. I looked at some of yours BB, but didn't finish. I'll dig back into it. The ones on page 3 looked like you're really far along.”

“Yup, old growth/virgin timber is of better quality than second and third growth and plantation timber/mono-culture.

Mother Nature does better work than man.

Unlimber yer timber!!”

“I'm glad to know that the experts agree that my wood will get better with age.”

“(Not sayin' nuthin'...)”

“yeah, but when you start mixing old growth wood with virgin timber, the police want to talk to you.”