Prove to me my religion is wrong

“The webpage is coming from a biblical perspective, as anything NOT in the Bible is suspect. Christians talk like that all the time to one another. We believe that any human interpretation is corupted w/ sin.”

“. That is not the argument the Christians make

right. its not even an argument at all. i know lots of christians who automatically assume the bible is the word of god because it is so ingrained in them from early childhood that it wouldnt occur to them to think of anything else, or even of the necessity to back it up with historical references or logical reasoning. i used to be one of them until i broke free of the programming”

“roseymonster - I typically read right over your comments, so please understand if I don't know what you're talking about.”

“Sorry. I'll try to use words with only one or two syllables from now on.”

“right. its not even an argument at all. i know lots of christians who automatically assume the bible is the word of god because it is so ingrained in them from early childhood that it wouldnt occur to them to think of anything else, or even of the necessity to back it up with historical references or logical reasoning. i used to be one of them until i broke free of the programming


Here's the thing crash. We get that you don't agree with that argument. Neither do I! The point is that that argument (the circular one) is a bad-copy of an actual Christian argument. That "bad" copy (you printed) is repeated very often. It's NOT the Christian argument. So you disagreeing with it is silly. It's a strawman.”

“if anybody cares, rosey the troll just went on ignore”

“anyways, there are lots of rational explanations for the accounts of the apostles' refusal to recant. some guy walking on water and returning from the dead after 3 days is the least rational of these”

“"We believe that any human interpretation is corrupted w/ sin."

And the bible was written by................”

“It may be a bad argument, but I've heard it from believing Christians. "It says so in Bible, are you calling God a liar..."”

“It's NOT the Christian argument. So you disagreeing with it is silly. It's a strawman.”

What exactly is the Christian argument?”

“Literal interpretation of every passage of the Bible? That would land you in jail so fast, it wouldn't be funny.
Hey, I have a book that says it's the absolute truth, too. If you don't believe it, I can prove you wrong by referring to the book. After all, it's the absolute truth.”

“the author of acts could have either made it up or was misinformed. something may have happened to make the apostles believe. this was 2000 years ago, after all. hell, people today still believe in bigfoot and the loch ness monster and flying saucers. you think a post-prehistoric people wouldnt be easily convinced of incredibly superstitious goings-on?”

““It may be a bad argument, but I've heard it from believing Christians. "It says so in Bible, are you calling God a liar..."PedXing

That's a different argument.”

“What exactly is the Christian argument?indiana john

You must have missed it john. I gave it. Read again.

it's from 2:16:22PM EST
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“the author of acts could have either made it up or was misinformed.


The whole point is that they couldn't. They couldn't have made it up (we know with reasonable certainty) because they were willing to go to jail and be tortured for a belief of which, if made up, would gain them NOTHING. They couldn't have been misinformed because the argument only applies to things they know firsthand.”

“crash - Once again, why would you go to jail or be tortured for a complete lie about your adventures on the trail? What would you gain? Nothing! So why would you do it? You wouldn't! That's the analogy presented in the argument.”

“They couldn't have made it up (we know with reasonable certainty)

Wow, an oxymoron from a moron!”

“no, im saying the author of acts made up the beheading of one of the apostles, not jesus's miracles”

“moonglo, i thought we just established that its not know if they were even tortured? or how they died?”

“Hey moon, ask the suicide bomber the same thing and apply to your scenario.

The gates of heaven are swinging wide for those willing to die for the cause.”

“No Indiana John, you established that by not understanding (or even trying to understand) the answer I gave you.”

“crash - I've said what I have to say on this. Like I said, I didn't jump in to argue with you on what is right or wrong - I jumped in to set you straight on the strawman you presented and said was silly.

Later.”

“s-rge, you need to back up a minute. youre going on the assumption that the apostles were tortured and died for their beliefs, while everyone else is questioning that assumption.”

“umm moon the argument you presented said: "The circumstances of the deaths of the other apostles can only be known based on church traditions, so we should not put too much weight on any of the other accounts.””

“awright, s-rge. later. hurry up and heal that knee so we can hike and hash this out in person”

“crash - My knee is fine now. Perhaps next summer.

john - I gave crash that link for his information. It referred to their deaths in the link, not their lives. I wanted to give crash enough to go on should he decide to look further in it. The book mentioned "Book of Martyrs" is a better source for what you are asking about.”

“Peter Bartholomew was my favorite Christian.

Sarge, could you be more like Peter Bartholomew?
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“WOw...I never expected the Spanish Inquisition.......”

“Neither did the Spanish Jews.”

“"If I heard the Lord right about 2006, the coasts of America will be lashed by storms," Pat Robertson said May 8. On Wednesday, he added, "There well may be something as bad as a tsunami in the Pacific Northwest."

God was wrong, no tsunami in the PNW in 2006.”

“Well it was just as bad for the Envior Wackos who predicted the worst hurricane season in history in 2006. Heck maybe one day the world will catch on....EARTH pretty much does what it wants, we have a negligible effect at best.”

“[In 2007] One in four, 25 percent, anticipates the second coming of Jesus Christ. - Source

That's a lot of crazy and/or retarded people.”

“Heck look at the 2006 Elections....not crazy or retarded...just uneducated or easily swayed.”

“Uneducated? I thought that for believers there are many signs of the Second Coming lately?”

“"Well it was just as bad for the Envior Wackos who predicted the worst hurricane season in history in 2006."
XL

At least they weren't claiming to talk to an imaginary friend, like that kook Robberson.”

“I discovered something recently but have to read up on it more. According to some sects of Islam when the 12th Madi comes back and wipes out all the polytheistic heathens Jesus is going to come back with him and declare his islam and rule beside the 12 Madi.

Jesus...what a sell out.”

“xl: worlds second-laziest troll”

“And the first? [fingers crossed]”

“At least they weren't claiming to talk to an imaginary friend, like that kook Robberson.”
MarkO

Well seeing as how Environmentalisim is a Religion, and they tend to belive stuff they have much less PROOF of...I would say they are on the same footing. Its just that the EWs are libbie/socialists so they are immune from negative comments. Christians represent RESPONSIBILITY so they are a threat to the libbies, and in this case the libbies don't want RESPONSIBILITY, because it hurts their.......

FEELINGS< NOTHING MORE THAN FEELINGS, TRYING TO PREVARICATE THE TRUTH BECUASE IS HURTS THEM SO!!!!!!!!!!!FEEEEEELINGS, OH WHOA WHOA FEELINGS, YOU REALLY MUST PREVARICATE THE TRUTH SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO WORK SO HARD!!!!”

“Ha Ha Ha!!!!
USA/MarkO think TV Preachers are REAL!”

“if theres anything based on FEELINGS O WOAAHHH FEELINGS, its religion. the basis of all religion is fear. fear of not knowing what is on the Other Side, fear of death, fear of hellfire”

“IAWTAP”

“TT preachers are real-and don't try to tell otherwise. TT wrestlers also.”

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“LAS VEGAS, Nevada (AP) -- A Roman Catholic priest who is accused of beating, groping and choking a soloist at his Las Vegas church was arrested Thursday in Arizona, authorities said.

The Rev. George Chaanine, 52, was taken into custody in Apache Junction, about 30 miles east of Phoenix, said Deb McCarley, a spokeswoman for the Phoenix office of the FBI.

Chaanine had been a fugitive since the alleged assault on January 26 at the Our Lady of Las Vegas parish office.

A judge issued a felony warrant Tuesday charging him with attempted murder, sexual assault, kidnapping and battery with a deadly weapon.

McCarley said Arizona authorities located Chaanine after receiving information from agents in Las Vegas.

"He was stopped, he was taken into custody without incident, he did not give chase," McCarley said.

According to a Las Vegas police report obtained Thursday by The Associated Press, the woman, who works at the parish office, told investigators she was sitting at her desk when Chaanine broke a full bottle of wine over her head, grabbed her hair and dragged her down a hall toward his office.

She fought back, lost consciousness and awoke with Chaanine groping her breasts and genitals, police said. She continued fighting until Chaanine straddled her and grabbed her throat, police said.”

“so is this like, american catholic idol?”

“American Idolatry.”

“Jesus, jesus , jesus- Allah, allah ,allah. Give me a clue ?”

“"“so is this like, american catholic idol?”
crash bang"

flmao!”

“LOL@ Crash....And the Priest would be ..Simon? so I wonder who will play the other parts.”