“Friday's are Fundays! I despise being a crip still. My feet are useless.”

“Hang in there bearmagnet. Looks like the worst (cancer) is over. I'm sure you're thankful for that! What's wrong w/ your feet?”

“As an added bonus, do they stink too? ;-)”

“Apparently I didn't use them "enough" while ill. And boy do they stink!”

“Damn you kids and your animated GIF's!!!!”

“BM, you'll be out and about soon :) every step matters :)”

“Thanks, SC. I've never had foot problems. It's really frustrating that I can't get a good sweat going before my feet start hurting.”

“Phil--

My meet just stopped being sore from a hike I did three weeks ago. Walk it off and build it up. Keep at it and you'll be getting out again in no time.”

“your meet?”

“Thanks. My feet do feel like usleless slabs of meat sometimes.”

“

Jury awards $11.3M over defamatory Internet posts

A Florida woman has been awarded $11.3 million in a defamation lawsuit against a Louisiana woman who posted messages on the Internet accusing her of being a "crook," a "con artist" and a "fraud."

Legal analysts say the Sept. 19 award by a jury in Broward County, Fla. — first reported Friday by the Daily Business Review — represents the largest such judgment over postings on an Internet blog or message board. Lyrissa Lidsky, a University of Florida law professor who specializes in free-speech issues, calls the award "astonishing."

Lidsky says the case could represent a coming trend in court fights over online messages because the woman who won the damage award, Sue Scheff of Weston, Fla., pursued the case even though she knew the defendant, Carey Bock of Mandeville, La., has no hope of paying such an award.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2006-10-10-internet-defamation-case_x.htm”

“"crook," a "con artist" and a "fraud."

Ha Ha
That might just describe violin to a T. ;-)”

“you better run sarge.”

“what should sarge run from?

sarge is the one calling for civility”

“Sarge was talking one way, and walkin' another.

And, SS - note the woman wasn't even in court to defend herself. The case might have gone differently if she had been.”

“What does that have to do with violin being a "crook," a "con artist" and a "fraud?" ;-)”

“pedxing - be specific”

“How about this thread? He (You? - I'm not keeping track of names well) starts off with a high profile "Plea for Civility" and then goes into bashing folks left and right.
last edited: 10/15/06 9:13:56 PM”

“again, be specific. goes into bashing folks left and right, where?”

“Trolling technique #3.

Keep asking poster to "be specific".”

“Yup, "be specific"....."prove it".....shoot the messenger, change the subject, go all "Ann Coulter" and stuff like that.

Violin, need a character witness?”

“Hey Mark - don't forget "blaming it all on some Big Conspiracy"!”

“It's too much to ask for an actual example when you make a claim against somebody?

Sorry, didn't realize that was too much to ask.

I didn't think it would be a big deal to give 1 example. Sorry to put you out like that. Go on making claims against people without being able to back up your statements.

(I seem to recall somebody on here (*cough*Violin*cough*) saying they were going to sue another person on here (*cough*XL*cough) for not being specific.”

“Sure Mutt, pull one of your kooky conspriracies if ya gotta.”

“Like giving Pakistan nukes for allowing us to have military bases there? Or Big Oil orchestrating military action in the ME? Or how about Wall Street running the military to make big profits?”

“It’s all in how you say it. If I sat here and called Violin, say, a hateful race baiting poser, then he may have a case. But if I say instead, “I think Violin is a hateful, race baiting poser”, well that can’t be slander because it’s speculation and an opinion.

I do find it hilarious that the biggest troll and instigator on these boards (Ok, a tie with Stove Stomper) is so quick to resorting to Jewish Judo (suing) and that after he runs to Mat crying.”

“LOL..Violin you might not want the guys in the Bund Meeting to go to big on this...I am guessing an appeal will come out.”

“Stick to the facts, Cujo...”

“*snicker*”

“AH Jeeze...I just read the case...where the heck is the State Senate on this judge. The defendant was not informed of the case (documents related to the charges were returned). The plaintiff never had to show damages...PLEASE...oh wait..Broward county...yep this will die in Appeal.

See here is a judge who lets a totally frivolous case go forward he needs a quick impeachment followed by a disbarring.”

“Why do liberals hate free speech so much?”

“I sent a private message to XL informing him that I do not take his constant charges of antisemitism lightly.

I live in a community with a large number of Jewish people. Our house is just outside of an eruv. My children go to school with a lot of Jewish kids. My work involves daily contact with Jewish people. If people were to take XL's charges seriously and conect the real me with my online persona, it would have a major impact on my life and my children's lives.

If he elected to share my request with others, instead of being a decent person and ceasing with his libelous behaviour, it only reflects upon his character, not mine.

It is against the law to make unsupported false charges against someone. Please stop.”

“Stop breaking the law. You haven't supported your false charge pedxing.”

“"Call for civility".......

No answer”

“Breaking the law ..... Breaking the law .....”

“BAWHAHAHAHAHA!

Violin = crybaby”

“If he elected to share my request with others, instead of being a decent person and ceasing with his libelous behaviour, it only reflects upon his character, not mine.

It is against the law to make unsupported false charges against someone. Please stop.”
undead flesh eating zombie
10:40:12 AM


People that live in glass houses should not throw stones.

Since when has the chief race baiter and false charge queen ever been 'decent'.
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!”

“"Since when has the chief race baiter and false charge queen ever been 'decent'."
SSLOL

Since when has Violin been a race-baiter other than you crackers saying so??”

“Violin = crybaby - Nigal

No kidding. What a douche.”

“The best part is I can call him a racebaiter from here to the end of days and he couldn’t sue me for it because I can back it up.

Racebaiter!
Racebaiter! Racebaiter! Racebaiter! Racebaiter! Racebaiter! Racebaiter! Racebaiter! Racebaiter! Racebaiter! Racebaiter!”

“"Since when has the chief race baiter and false charge queen ever been 'decent'.
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!”
- GreasyGrimyGopherGutsStomper
11:11:19 AM


Maybe when I offered you financial help when your house was damaged? You know, the email you recieved but couldn't bring yourself to reply to?”

“Frankly, I think a 'decent' person would have sent a message saying "thanks, but no thanks" or something along those lines.”

“Just look at your first post Sarge. You talk about apologizing and civility, but you put fingers push blame and justify your actions. You get all kinds of shots in and seem to expect no one to say anything the slightest bit negative.

The patronizing one another for their "different" beliefs ... the name-calling ... the bigotry ... the bullying ... the obsessive baiting ... it's out of hand.

Some people didn't understand why I was doing it. Some people did. Some people forgot.

By the way, this idea that "troll Sarge" was designed to teach an important lesson and that your caricature of things you felt you saw and that annoyed you in others was condescending in the extreme. As was your repeated claim that those who disagreed with your justifications didn't understand or forgot.

But the bigotry and the hate and the obsessive attacks are out of hand.

After these extremely negative characterizations of what others are doing you say:

This is a Call For Civility. It's a challenge to end it here and now. There is no reason we can't do this.


What have you done in the first post? You've pressed your point of view, given your history and taken several shots and then said, effectively don't argue with me, just agree to make nice.”

“I suppose SSLOL is looking for "race-baiting" evidence to post.

It will interesting to see what he considers race-baiting.”

“Then not long after that, you make this post:

“Just out of curiosity, since nobody on here has taken any responsibility except me, and the following people actually blame me (after I admitted to many mistakes): thriftyhiker, treebeard, geobeet, pedxing, sassafras (removed) and ruby ... I was just wondering if all this was in vain or is anybody going to actually change instead of point fingers?”
Sarge
10:20:09 AM
4/06/06

You point fingers, while attacking people for pointing fingers. You attack people for not lining up behind you and raising issues. You seem to argue that you are taking the high road ("admitted to many mistakes") and others take the low road ("blaming me").

It's incredibly tempting to engage in extensive self-justification while trying to bury the hatchet, but if you do so you are only going to start an argument and end up picking the hatchet up again. Calling people out is incompatible with your call for civility, unless you are the agreed on and designated grown-up or camp counselor.
last edited: 10/16/06 11:55:03 AM”

“Just look at your first post Sarge. You talk about apologizing and civility, but you put fingers push blame and justify your actions.

WOW! Did you even read it? Full responsibility is given to Sarge. It's like you read something else all together. A person can't take blame MORE than that! You're obviously trolling now.

It's funny the parts you left out of your cut and paste which clarify what you did cut and paste. Troll.

By the way, this idea that "troll Sarge" was designed to teach an important lesson and that your caricature of things you felt you saw and that annoyed you in others was condescending in the extreme.

EXACTLY! I know it was condescending. That was the point from the beginning. And, once again, did you read what was posted about that in the first post on this thread? It says it was wrong. Several times. What don't you get?

What have you done in the first post? You've pressed your point of view, given your history and taken several shots and then said, effectively don't argue with me, just agree to make nice.

There were no shots taken. If anything it just pointed to the obvious truth. The hate was OUT OF HAND, and that was NOT in dispute by anybody. This thread is not the first to acknowledge that. This thread began AFTER other people acknowledged that. This just repeated what was already said. Context is everything. Anyways, it doesn't say "don't argue with me". The point was everybody can make the decision to not argue with one another. This wasn't about Sarge (other than the several times fault was admitted in that post). It was about the mood of the board.

Your spinning is incredible.”

“re: More response to Sarge

Wow, all you've done is just proven the original point.

Thanks.”

“Still more Vatives vs Berals crap.”

“ironically pedxing, I've seen you take ZERO responsiblity, yet you are finger pointing right now.

You're doing exactly what you accuse Sarge of doing, minus the taking the blame (10 sentences worth).

So your point was what now?”

“Violin, um I am guesssing since I really don't KNOW who you are...it is going to be hard to threaten your reputation.

But anyway, I have watched your assasination of charachter ad infinitum. You need to understand I watched the Defeatocrats run the negotiations with the Soviets for 20 some odd years. I watched as JIMUH made agreement after agreement which was broken, and then in 1981 we got the PRESIDENT! Who came out saying he was playing on the same field by the same rules. They want to destroy us..we WILL destroy them.

If you want peace, you go first cowboy. I have read your repeated replies to the belief that Isreal is the threat, and I accurately conclude what I write.

If you cannot take the heat, the door is over there. Either play and play hard, or go home. The fact is that if say President A was a democrat you would be screaming from the rooftops for the need to win. This is all about your hatered for Bush and the fact that you are angry the voters have been turning out Defeatocrats since 1994.”