Engineering Challenge-BP Oven

“The Oven must be Aluminium, fired by alcohol like an alcohol stove...it may utilize any standard BP'ing Pot; (I suggest the Anti-Gravity type pots). Think innovation here....

Idea's I'm kicking around...

what if an AG pot WAS the oven? make an alcohol stove with the burner holes pointed IN...to heat an inner pot....in which you bake...

A lot of us use windscreens...make one into an oven with the AG pot as the inner oven you bake in...

The key here is to use items we are all carrying now anyway, but designed or modified to allow the baking of biscuits or brownies, or pizza's, or a quiche if I want...DANG IT, WE HAVE THE TECHNOLOGY, WE CAN DO THIS!
last edited: 4/13/06 2:09:34 PM”

“http://www.adventurefoods.com/bake-packer.htm

These have been out for a few years.”

“Where's the innovation, I'm thinking hot buttered biscuits and brownies here, not a plastic baggie of mush...GIMMEE Toasted Crisp!”

“biscuits schmitcuits - the real challenge is to bake a potato :

http://hikinghq.net/forum/showthread.php?t=1622
last edited: 4/13/06 2:53:21 PM”

“I'd like to share with you some day, Super Troll, a bread which I've developed using the bakepacker system.

Normally, it isn't a plastic baggie of mush. The large bread takes about 1 hour to cook, so it is best done on a campfire or my whisperlite. I've not tried a small version for cooking on alcohol stoves.”

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I say an Alcohol Stove..the hikinghq.net challenge is for a teacandle burner...”

“I apologize if I've maligned a viable baking product...my gut reaction was based on my personal experiences that were to say the least, POOR...”

“I have never gotten a really good result from the bakepacker. Goat I have tried a bunch of stuff....is there something I am missing?”

“Ve-e-e-e-ery interesting........I think that more of the focus should be on portion size. I think making a single biscuit or a single brownie or a mini quiche may help you utilize the equipment you already have.

We had an experimental trail "cookoff" this past winter....(http://thebackpacker.com/trailtalk/thread/42221,-1.php).....from some of the ideas I saw being tried, I think this challenge can be met.”

“I was just on a trip a couple weekends ago where a guy had the bake-packer oven thingee over his stove. Made poppy seed muffin like a cake. Split it into four pieces. Yummy!!!!”

“http://minibulldesign.com/vidbaking.htm

Entertainment”

“for a ready supply of denatured alcohol go to your local Napa or Coop and buy some tractor/trailer air line antifreeze. It comes in a 1/2 gal. or gallon container. it is a lot cheaper than getting Heet or denatured alcohol from the drug store. Isopropel alcohol smokes things up too much.”

“1) Put some small rocks in the bottom of your pot
2) Fill pot to half the rock line with water
3) Put bakeables in a plastic bag
4) Add heat

I suspect that this would work much like the 'bakepacker' that lumberzac linked to, and you wouldn't have to carry anything extra or make any gear modifications.
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“Already done I see no reason to do it again.”

“It would be worth it to DIY. I see ne need to buy something like this.. then again another perspective is this... I have eaten bannocks at camp since I was a Boy Scout and all I needed to make them was a fire and a green stick...”

“I bought one of these things and practiced with it at home and it ended up never seeing the trail. It works great, it will bake a perfect pizza or whatever but it is just another thing you have to carry around and use maybe once on a trip. If I want biscuits, pancakes, or cornbread I can make them in a small skillet but I haven't done that for years either.”

“Here is the link that I remember. I haven't tried it yet, can't find the little tins. If anyone carries them near you, please purchase me a package of them and ship them to me and I'll pay the cost plus shipping, Thanks

http://www.trailquest.net/simring.html

http://www.trailquest.net/baking.html
last edited: 4/16/06 9:20:11 PM”

“Yeah, karo, I had just found that link yesterday.

Looks interesting!”

“Can you find the tins near you. If you do mail me a few of them. Thanks, I'll pay ya for sure, its just that on his site they are $2 and the shipping is $6. That is just too much.They should ship is one of thos small cardboard boxes that the US mail has for a couple of dollars. I'll also ask the new Publix near me and see if they will carry them.”

“I made a biscuit today and it was OK, but a little burnt on the bottom. Clearly my skills as a bake-packer leave something to be desired. I'll try again. It was fun.”

“I made another biscuit. It was better and not burnt. Didn't taste that good, so clearly I need to work on my recipe.”

“Trail ovens?

You guys are all amateurs.


Dayhiker can bake a full size pizza on the trail. He constructed a full blown, wood fired, pizza oven in the ozarks.”