Another Compassionate Conservative

“"...I believe that Katrina is -- has worn its welcome. I mean, and I think we have heard about it. We have heard about it... I think the American people are getting a little tired of it, myself."
- Bay Buchanan on CNN's Situation Room http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/27/sitroom.01.html”

“Heck, I'm tired of it and I live in it! LOL

Things are improving, but slowly.”

“If you read the whole paragraph, (instead of just what Violin copied) you'd see he wasn't referring to "Katrina" itself as what has worn it's welcome, but the use of the Katrina talking point by the left to bash President Bush. Context is everything.”

“You're wrong. And Bay is a 'she'.”

“(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

SEN. JOSEPH LIEBERMAN (D), CONNECTICUT: President Bush won our admiration and our gratitude for the way he took charge, responding to the attacks against America of September 11.

In the case of Hurricane Katrina, he failed to provide that same presidential leadership, when it was needed, and America suffered.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

BLITZER: It seems this administration, as I said earlier, can't cut a break. On any day they try to do something, they are going to be undermined by other developments, including today. BUCHANAN: Well, there's no question. I believe that Katrina is -- has worn its welcome. I mean, and I think we have heard about it. We have heard about it. The American people have responded. The president suffered. It weakened his poll numbers. And -- but to suggest that somehow this is going to continue to play against him, I think the American people are getting a little tired of it, myself.”

“SARGE!! For some reason the sky is bluer today and things seem back to normal here. :)”

“So you read that and what you get out of it is that she feels that the Katrina talking point has worn out its welcome, not Katrina as she clearly says?

More reality from Planet Sarge.”

“welcome back Koter and glad to see ya....we all knew you couldn't stay away from us”

“a lot has happened since you've been gone(though i suspect you actually haven't been gone, i'm sure you've been lurking)...nigal pulled a sarge and pased away...and just like sarge he came back to life, only he came back as deadnbloated ;)”

“how to i find his 'dirtbaggers' page link ?

(search=0)”

“how to i find his 'dirtbaggers' page link ?

(search=0)
never mind , the search finally found it after all these years...”

“i see it hasn't been updated in quite awhile , is he still into barefoot hiking and the other stuff ? would like to here from him sometime...”

“CHEYENNE, Wyo. -- Thomas Rankin, the Libertarian running for Wyoming's lone U.S. House seat, said Rep. Barbara Cubin, R-Wyo., threatened to slap him after a televised debate.

During a debate Sunday that also included Democrat Gary Trauner, Cubin and Rankin had a testy exchange over campaign contributions Cubin received from former House Majority Leader Tom DeLay, R-Texas.

Rankin, who has multiple sclerosis and uses an electric wheelchair, said Monday night in a telephone interview with The Associated Press that the confrontation occurred immediately after the debate.



"My aide and I were packing up to leave the debate, and Barbara walked over to me and said, 'If you weren't sitting in that chair, I'd slap you across the face.' That's quote-unquote," Rankin said.
[...]
During her tenure, Cubin received $22,520 in campaign contributions from Delay's Americans for a Republican Majority PAC. She has said she would not return the money unless DeLay was convicted of a crime.
[...]
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/national/1110AP_Wyoming_House_Threat.html”

“Well...Shrillery would have slapped him (LOL)”

“limbaugh sinks to a new low

Rush Limbaugh accuses Michael J. Fox of faking Parkinson's

"I stated when I saw the ad, I was commenting to you about it, that he was either off the medication or he was acting. He is an actor, after all."”

“the article lies ...

Thomas Rankin, the Libertarian running for Wyoming's lone U.S. House seat, said Rep. Barbara Cubin, R-Wyo., threatened to slap him after a televised debate.

that's not true

He said "If you weren't sitting in that chair, I'd slap you across the face."

That's quote, unquote.”

“As it turns out, he was off his meds. He does public appearances off his meds when it helps demonstrate his point of view.

Is it wrong for someone to point this out?”

“as it turns out????? provide the link. go ahead.

heres what an expert has to say:

"the chorea that Michael J Fox has in that ad comes from chronic use of dopamine agonists in the context of Parkinson's. They're movements from the medicine, not the disease itself. Although he might have odd movements OFF of his meds, they wouldn't look like the ones in the ad. They'd look like the Parkinson's-like presentation of Muhammed Ali's Dementia Pugilistica.

In addition, those movements are hard to imitate accurately because they stem from circuits between the basal ganglia and cortex that you can't just turn off or on. Those aren't volitional circuits. There is little chance he was acting, and if he was, he could only accentuate slightly movementse already had. In other words, this is as tragic as it looks."

have you neocons no shame??????”

“LIMBAUGH: All right. Now, people are telling me that they have seen Michael J. Fox in interviews and he does appear the same way in the interviews as he does in this commercial for Claire McCaskill. All right, then, I stand corrected.

at least he admitted he looked like a fool. how about you noProb???”

“Have you made-up name callers have no shame?”

“*YAWN*”

“YAAAWN..then we see where Michael Fox admitted he stopped taking his meds before a Congressional Hearing....

Does everyone know the government has never RESTRICTED embroyonic Stem Cell research..they just refuse to steal our money to do it.

HMM in libbie speak this means. IF YOU AREN'T with us you will be silenced, removed from society becuase we believe in Free Speech if we are doing the speaking.”

“YAAAWN..then we see where Michael Fox admitted he stopped taking his meds before a Congressional Hearing....

as i said yesterday to one of your cut&run chickenhawk neocon buds (noProb) provide a link proving that. go ahead. ill wait. im still waiting for Noprob.

in cut&run chickenhawk neocon speak this means unfounded acusations & character assassination agaisnt anyone who speaks out.”

“YAAAWN..I guess as a liberal when you fake stuff its okay

On Tuesday, the talk show host said Fox admitted in his book to not taking his meds when he appeared before Congress.

http://cbs2chicago.com/local/local_story_297190206.html”

“nice selective quote. try being honest and posting the whole thing.....the TALK SHOW HOST qouted is LIMBAUGH the impartial one (lol)

On Tuesday, the talk show host said Fox admitted in his book to not taking his meds when he appeared before Congress.

"He did not take his medication for the purposes of having the ravages and the horrors of Parkinson's disease illustrated," Limbaugh said.

Fox addressed the controversy on Tuesday.

"I'm kind of lucky right now. It's ironic, given some of the things that have been said in the last couple of days, that my pills are working really well right now," he said.

University of Chicago neurologist Dr. Thomas Kelly says Limbaugh doesn't have his facts straight. Fox's disease has progressed where he no longer only gets tremors, which can be controlled with medication, but has more erratic movements which are caused directly by his medicine.

"Chaotic, maybe writhing, dance-like movements, or dyskinesia, the movements I've seen in Mr. Fox, are due to his medications," said Dr. Kelly.

Duckworth called Limbaugh's opinion ridiculous.

"That comment is trying to take attention away from the real issue at hand, which is we need embryonic stem cell research," she said.

typical cut&run chickenhawk neocon BS”

“YAAAWN..I guess as a cut&run chickenhawk neocon when you fake stuff its okay”

“Yadda Yadda...now you know when it said Fox admitted in his book...that is HIS "Michael J. Fox" admitting it.

AS for the Doctor...LOL yeah I Doctor would NEVER bend the truth to try and get more funding......

the strange thing is I have transported Parkinsons patients in the final stages...and sorry but I have NEVER seen that much shaking.

I am sorry he has the disease, but it is like the Terrorist in Lebanon making up the injurys and deaths.. and faking the news...but then again...Libbies have been faing the news for years.

i realize the best way to control us is to force us to shut up...free speech being what it is with libbies.
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“Yadda Yadda...now you know when it said Fox admitted in his book...that is HIS "Michael J. Fox" admitting it.

do everyone a favor and go read the link you posted. LIMPAUGH is the only one that says "Fox admitted in his book". LIMPAUGH, the expert on parkinsons

LIMPAUGH has a chronic disease, too. its called Foot in Mouth disease, along with painkiller dependency, erectile dysfunction, diarreah of the mouth, narcissim and to many others to list”

“Once again..WHY SHOULD THE GOVERNMENT HAVE TO FUND THE RESEARCH?

Here is a neat idea. If Uncle Sugar funds the research and the companies find the CURE...and go to get rich off it...the Government Audits them then take their percentage off the Gross. So if they gave 75% of the money to develop the drug...the get 75% of any money made.”

“lets change the subject now we know we were full of BS!!!!!!1





even a gasbag like LIMPAUGH was man enough to admitt he was wrong and apologise

LIMPAUGH: All right. Now, people are telling me that they have seen Michael J. Fox in interviews and he does appear the same way in the interviews as he does in this commercial for Claire McCaskill. All right, then, I stand corrected.”

“It really is all about character.”

“The win-at-any-costs-truth-doesn't-matter-lie-through-my-teeth-take-cuurupt-money-hit-one-16-year-olds-buck-passing-chicken-hawk-insult-the-chronically-sick-slap-the-disabled-ICANS.”

“But to be honest, the whole of congress needs serious reforming. they are all drunk on their own power and don't represent their voters. I struggle to see one decent one amongst them.”

“Character only counts when it’s a conservative under the microscope. But if it’s someone with a (D) beside their name you guys shift into moral relativity mode. But as long as you guys keep yelling back and forth like good little team players we’ll always have shltty leaders.”

“I dunno about anyone else, but FWIW my favorite aunt & uncle BOTH have Parkinson's disease and they shake a lot. Sometimes it's less than others. It's very sad. I don't think they're faking it...”

“"This is just another example of how Rush and the Right want to distract the General public from the collapse of the Republican Party!"

Its nice to see the right do the Meltdown Dance!”

“They can't defend their own record while in power so it's a case of trying to make the "liberals look worse" - you can see Nigal has tried to do it here ;o)”

“But as long as you guys keep yelling back and forth like good little team players we’ll always have shltty leaders.
-Nigal

you guys. heh.
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““They can't defend their own record while in power so it's a case of trying to make the "liberals look worse" - you can see Nigal has tried to do it here ;o)”

No Eurotrash, I was speaking about both sides.

Nice try though.
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“HB, you're right I did cut'n'run, didn't I. I promised myself I would no longer argue with libbies or idiots. And since you qualify on both I've decided to drop it.”

“You mean you don't argue when you've been proven wrong. A man would own up and apologize.

Even the drug addled Rush is a better man than you:

"Now people are telling me they have seen Michael J. Fox in interviews and he does appear the same way in the interviews as he does in this commercial," Limbaugh said, according to a transcript on his Web site. "All right then, I stand corrected. . . . So I will bigly, hugely admit that I was wrong, and I will apologize to Michael J. Fox, if I am wrong in characterizing his behavior on this commercial as an act."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/10/24/AR2006102400691.html”

“you notice he still kept an IF in the last line there.

Eurotrash - Seems to be a typical tactic of the right, don't like the message, attack the messenger. ;op”

“Rush Limbaugh is also showing us all how to be a compassionate conservative.

http://msnbc.msn.com/id/15408508/
http://www.suntimes.com/news/elections/109722,CST-NWS-fside25.article
last edited: 10/25/06 12:03:18 PM”

“"Eurotrash - Seems to be a typical tactic of the right, don't like the message, attack the messenger. ;op”

No, that was me, Nigal, calling you Eurotrash. Not the right. Just me. Act6 like Eurotrash get called Eurotrash. You are hardly one to point out name calling. Besides, you’re a foreigner, you don’t count.”

“why dont foreigners count

is that also part of the compassionate platform?

you cant even bring yourself to come up with any arguements against any of the points themselves so you, like your friend xl400, decides to repeatedly attack the person. which of course, does little to make anyone's arguments weaker. it just makes it look like you're getting really really upset at not having anything pertinent to say to defend yourself and your actions.
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“OK, I guess I was wrong. Haven't heard anyone say that he was NOT off the meds. Mr. Fox himself said in an interview that we was off them when he testified before congress and that he did it to demonstrate the effect that the disease had on people. I have seen him in several interview situations in which the shaking was not present, leading me to think that perhaps the ads were also being done with out the meds.

I still see the shaking and meds/nomeds issue to be a distraction. The fact is that, at least in the Missouri ads, what he said was completely misleading and inaccurate. Stem cell research is perfectly legal in Missouri and there is NO ballot issue or anything else that would change it. The issue before the voters is refered to as a stem cell research bill, but it changes nothing concerning stem cell research. It in fact legalizes human cloning research. The Republican he is condeming opposes human cloning, not stem cell research therefore he has come out against the bill. The Democrat Mr. Fox is backing is in favor of the bill. So far as I know she hasn't indicated whether she is in favor of cloning or not.”

“i guess alexis de tocqueville was right though lol”

“"I still see the shaking and meds/nomeds issue to be a distraction."

No kidding. Who cares what he did or what he said? I think it’s great that he can help others but I get a bit under whelmed when celebrities contract a condition and then all of a sudden it’s the biggest, most important cause in the whole world and they expect Congress to make time for them, and you’re an ass hole if ya don’t have an overpriced red t-shirt or a yellow rubber bracelet.
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““i guess alexis de tocqueville was right though lol”

Not if he said anything you agree with.
last edited: 10/25/06 12:15:16 PM”