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whats getting lost in all of this is that my whole point is that its a double standard for treebeard to catch hell for saying it, but xl is excused for saying it. i believe that that incident has more to do with stove and tree's ongoing feud than any genuine offense on the part of stove
Crash Bang
12:57:18 PM
7/25/06

JUST A MINUTE....the "W" word...I assume you mean "Welshman"...well I will have you know that we welsh are a proud breed...heck we um...well we were pretty good sheep thieves..and good miners..and...um...Hey the Crown Prince of England is the Prince of Wales..(okay bad example) (LOL)....
XL400236
1:00:54 PM
7/25/06

No C!B!.
The whole point is you were being an a$$.
StoveStomper
1:08:49 PM
7/25/06

WELL FINE...can anyone find the Monty Python skit about insults...where they were looking for derrogatory remarks about Belgians?
XL400236
1:17:08 PM
7/25/06

ok, im just going to drop it cuz i dont want to be at odds with you good people. we've ran this thing into the ground. peace
Crash Bang
1:19:19 PM
7/25/06

no we haven't. ;)

The point is that it isn't about treebeard to catching hell for saying it, but xl being excused for saying it. The point is that xl isn't a member of the Church of Political Correctness, so his using a non politically correct term isn't a big deal to some us. Treebeard preaches the PC gospel so his use of a politically incorrect turn for his own amusement should be pointed out as hypocrisy .
Hyway
1:28:32 PM
7/25/06

I always look at Political Correctness like I do ZERO Tolerance policies....too much of a chance of the wrong people using it to their advantage.
XL400236
1:32:29 PM
7/25/06

So........some have the right to use racial slurs b/c they don't believe in PC?




PC can kiss my ass! Can I also bad mouth women?
bearmagnet
1:32:51 PM
7/25/06

BEAR...you can badmouth women...

BY the By...you doing better today...dude I know how JERKS can get on people's nerves.

I have a good friend who is beating Meth. She REALLY went down low before she started crawling back out. Apparently her ex..whatevers are bothering her.
XL400236
1:40:10 PM
7/25/06

"Don't worry MarkO.
NO ONE is ever going to think you are a gentleman.”
StoveStomper
12:40:26 PM
7/25/06

Ooch.....ouch!!!!!

I've been cut to the bone!!

(funny bone....LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
MarkO
1:43:02 PM
7/25/06

this brings back memories of John Rocker's comments
Ewker
1:46:45 PM
7/25/06

Bearmagnet beating meth??

I thought he was hustling crack.
MarkO
1:48:59 PM
7/25/06

bear, you are so cute. Its the same as when libs charge christian conservatives with hypocrisy when they screw around on their wife or do drugs. It is hypocrisy and they should be called out for it.
Hyway
1:51:14 PM
7/25/06

There's a difference between Christian Conservatives and fundaMENTALists.
MarkO
2:03:00 PM
7/25/06

Hyway's sexually harrasing me!

If treebeard called SS a greasy Daigo WOP I think I might be unoffended. If he called me that too my face jokingly my reaction would be the same. If he called me that in a heated argument I think I would react differently.

If we showed Tree's thread title to some Mexicans, how would they react?
bearmagnet
2:08:56 PM
7/25/06

who cares how they react if they are here illegally
Ewker
2:09:53 PM
7/25/06

They got internet?

What about showing it to some crazy drunken Micks?
MarkO
2:12:02 PM
7/25/06

If we showed Tree's thread title to some Mexicans, how would they react?”
bearmagnet
3:08:56 PM
7/25/06


If they were illegals probably not a lot (LOL)....We can show em the post as we put them on the bus ride home.

One creative solution for the illegals getting free medical care is to check em and if they are illegal we fly them to Mexico after we stabalize them.
XL400236
2:32:57 PM
7/25/06

The problem with saying "wetback" is used for illegals is that it is not.

My father got into a little trouble in the Navy, ca1950's. Someone called him a WOP. I assure you, he was born in this country.
bearmagnet
3:02:01 PM
7/25/06

Yeah whooptie doo....LOL Bear I had a Lt at the Academy who came up one morning to the formation he looked at our ONE black classmate and said, "Larry, they giving you #&%!$ for being black?"

When larry said no he replied

Hell they gave me tons of crap and I am only half spick.

I guess he knew it was not threat to his life. Words can be used to hurt. But unlike weapons they only have the power WE give them.
XL400236
3:08:15 PM
7/25/06

IMHO, I do not think we have the right to question someone who takes offense to a racial slur
bearmagnet
3:11:25 PM
7/25/06

I called the shore patrol who was arresting me for drunkeness and other offenses a spic. What really sucked was that our Captain was hispanic and he didn't particularly like that when I had to go before him. I hated that guy, but not because he was hispanic. I hated him because he was a good christian and he let the chaplain run our recreation. No R movies, and no overnight liberty for junior enlisted men.
Hyway
3:25:49 PM
7/25/06

“IMHO, I do not think we have the right to question someone who takes offense to a racial slur"

Yeah but that's the whole ironic part. Crash takes offense and demands everyone jump on XL with both feet but yet crash is just as bad as XL. And when this gets brought up Crash simply says, "Never mind. Let it drop." and he gets a free pass.

Correctness is in the eyes of the beholder.
Nigal
3:30:07 PM
7/25/06

as a minority, i feel i'm entitled to use racial slurs.
sacco
3:30:55 PM
7/25/06

as a slur I feel i'm entitled to race minorities.
hyway
3:53:37 PM
7/25/06

OK, I can't take it anymore, what minority, sacco?
bearmagnet
3:53:37 PM
7/25/06

isn't it obvious? i'm 1/2 austrian. my dad came over when he was in his late 20's.

some may scoff, but you can't swing a dead trout without hitting an african-american, mexican, or puerto rican. i challenge you to find many austrian-americans.
so that makes me a real minority
sacco
5:34:18 PM
7/25/06

Nigal
6:19:48 PM
7/25/06

So lets all segregate the nation, lets all split this country into many....so its out of one....many or something....
XL400236
6:43:24 PM
7/25/06

I'm a minority, I'm a white, anglo-saxon male who works for a living, pays his own bills along with all the county, state & federal taxes, & doesn't rely upon the state for my well being.

When do I start collecting MY benefits?
wanderer
6:48:54 PM
7/25/06

i said many nigal.
sacco
7:15:22 PM
7/25/06

My um mother was Austrian extraction...her family was from South Texas....she is actually 3rd generation.

But what does that matter. Bill Murray said it best in Stripes,"All our forefathers were kicked out of every worthwhile country, we are mutts."
XL400236
7:32:21 PM
7/25/06

Crash takes offense and demands everyone jump on XL with both feet but yet crash is just as bad as XL. And when this gets brought up Crash simply says, "Never mind. Let it drop." and he gets a free pass.


is it so hard to believe that someone on a fuego thread DOESNT want to escalate hostilities? no, you didnt shut me up because i didnt have an answer, i shut myself up because i was tired of arguing, especially on such a personal level
last edited: 7/25/06 9:40:14 PM
Crash Bang
9:38:42 PM
7/25/06

"For a charm of powerful trouble
Like a hell-broth boil and bubble.
Double, double toil and trouble,
Fire, burn; and, caldron bubble."
hyway
10:40:57 PM
7/25/06

"is it so hard to believe that someone on a fuego thread DOESNT want to escalate hostilities? no, you didnt shut me up because i didnt have an answer, i shut myself up because i was tired of arguing, especially on such a personal level"

Oh come on Crash. You started the thread to start trouble and argueing. Don't be a pussie and bail on your own troll thread.
Nigal
6:44:10 AM
7/26/06

Come on, crash, don't take that from that baby eating, earth destroying warmonger
Hyway
6:46:04 AM
7/26/06

trolling rules
if you continue, youre an "a$$"

if you quit, youre a "pussie"

got it
last edited: 7/26/06 6:55:27 AM
Crash Bang
6:48:16 AM
7/26/06

I never called you an ass.
Nigal
6:56:25 AM
7/26/06

nope. stove did. hence the dollar signs and quotes. you know i would never shy away from saying a cuss word i can get away with
last edited: 7/26/06 6:58:02 AM
Crash Bang
6:56:48 AM
7/26/06

How about a compromise then? You're not an ass and you're not a pussie. I hereby dub thee, "Taint".
Nigal
7:00:29 AM
7/26/06

i can live with that
Crash Bang
7:02:15 AM
7/26/06

I think I see where my mistake was in my comments. I unintentionally attacked the only protected class in this country (heck world). I ofcourse am referring to the permenant class of VICTIM. In the heady days of the Cold War there was the fictional CIA "get out of jail free card" which allowed the holder to literally run rough shod over any law or responsibility. So has the term of Victim become today.

To place this into perspective lets imagine we are on a hike. About half way in we discover a fellow hiker with a pack of say 75 lbs. He is sitting on the trail mid way through the first day's hike pack off, looking exhausted.

Upon investigation we discover he has probably 20 to 30 lbs more gear than he needs. Additionally he never spent even one day getting prepared for a long hike. He is grossly overweight and he is so unprepared that it boggles the imagination.

Don't know about the rest of you but I never leave another hiker on the trail. I would, and HAVE, carried another hiker's pack when they were overcome or what not (the whole Leave No Trace thing works in here).

In our charity we carry the gear out so Hiker A can get to the end of that trail section. We camp that night and note Hiker A sets up near us. Noting he is having trouble with his stove, we offer to help him get the stove started and cook. It ends up that the newbie has a lot of food, but not that type that readily lends itself to cooking on the trail. Regardless we make sure he gets something to eat. Additionally we help him clean up and get his tent set up and he gets bedded down. In the process Hiker A explains that he has (select an acceptable victim claim here) but he still wants to experience hiking.

The next morning comes. We awake to find he is gone. Breathing a sigh of relief we throw on our packs and head down the next trail. Low and behold a couple of miles in the trail we come upon A again broken down nest to the trail. He explains that he really wants to hike but we are going to have to carry his stuff.

We laugh at this idea and advise him to go the two miles back to the start and get a ride to his vehicle. At this point a Forest Ranger walks up. We explain the situation and the Ranger tells us that since A is part of the FAMED Protected Victim status not only WILL he hike this trail but WE will be required to help him.

"BUT WAIT." We exclaim. "We spent weeks planning this trip we made sure we had the right gear, and were prepared for this trip."

The Ranger explains that we are being insulting to Hiker A and now plans on banning us from the trail. As well he is going to fine us for not only NOT helping this Hiker but we are also being uncaring becuase we fail to help him the rest of the way.

Is this fair?
XL400236
7:03:59 AM
7/26/06

we're talking about my taintyness now, xl. nobody cares about what you say or think anymore.

i bet you think this thread is about you
dont you
dont you
Crash Bang
7:06:57 AM
7/26/06

No, it wasn't your attack on a protected class. It was your lack of white guilt. LOL!
Nigal
7:07:14 AM
7/26/06

Darn, I think you should have held out to be dubbed "perineum"
Hyway
7:07:52 AM
7/26/06

Too hard to spell for TT consumption.
Nigal
7:09:58 AM
7/26/06

Look I know we are all experts at taking a hiking thread and turning it into a FUEGO thread...I was just trying to turn a fuego thread into a HIKING thread (LOL)....
XL400236
7:22:44 AM
7/26/06

Start the Hijack in the first paragraph or you lose most people. Well...............you lost me.
bearmagnet
9:08:19 AM
7/26/06

Sorry Bear...oh how is the situation in the home front? Hope the jerk is backing off. my prayers are with you
XL400236
9:16:01 AM
7/26/06

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