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Thanks, XL. I suspected he might be Muslim based on the way the NBC(?)newscaster "coughed" his name this morning.

I bet Al Jazeera(sp?) is reporting as much all American news organizations combined.

Same story, different hero.
gojo
9:47:23 AM
2/14/07

Gojo...if you study the way the media dealt with the Japanese invasion of China and the German occupations...you will see a similar thread. There was a distinct attempt to hide the threat then...as there is now.
XL400236
9:51:47 AM
2/14/07

Anyone have clear confirmation that Sulejman Talovic moslem, the shooter was a Moslem (as opposed to a Bosnian Serb or something else)? Given his name I figure he is, but a responsible press would wait for firm confiramtion before saying so.
last edited: 2/14/07 11:03:17 AM
pedxing
11:02:54 AM
2/14/07

a responsible press


LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!!!!
StoveStomper
11:04:39 AM
2/14/07

...a responsible press...
last edited: 2/14/07 11:03:17 AM”
pedxing
11:02:54 AM
2/14/07

How I long for that day. I've oft heard tale of a future in which we have a responsible press. Some have even dared dream of an unbiased one. Those people are just silly though.
I once heard a guy say "you may say that I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one"


sniff
*single tear runs down the cheek
StickmanWalking
1:22:47 PM
2/14/07

ped, we dont have time to get confirmation. lynch mobs take time to organize, dontcha know
crash bang
1:31:37 PM
2/14/07

Anyone ever note how if a guy is a CHRISTIAN, or a suspect "Republican" they are listed as so.....immediately, even if it later turns out not to be germain....I wonder why?????
XL400236
1:46:11 PM
2/14/07

Nope, because thats not the way it happens XL.
pedxing
1:47:41 PM
2/14/07

What planet is pedx on?
StoveStomper
2:00:39 PM
2/14/07

You got some evidence for me Stove.
pedxing
6:00:13 PM
2/14/07

You got some evidence that's not the way it happens?
StoveStomper
6:22:23 PM
2/14/07

The Muslims that bombed tht USS Cole..,
The Muslims that bombed the WTC in '93...
The Muslims of September 11, 2001...
The Muslim GI that grenaded his US comrades...
The Muslim that drove his car through a group of people at (Duke?)...
The Muslim that killed the innocents (women) at a Synagogue in WA(?)...
The Muslim that shot up the SLC mall...


There's a pettern emerging that even the most fuzzy hand-holders would have to acknowledge.


Not to worry (but worry indeed!) for when They hit us hard again, even the pinkos will get red in the face. Then... watch out! We're comin' at'cha HARD!

Allah akbar, indeed.
gojo
7:55:24 PM
2/14/07

My bread; 6-8 hours prefermentation, mix- then 3-4 hours fermentation, shape- then 2-3 hours prooooooffffffffing, bake-15min. @ 480*f , then 24 min.@ 410*f. Allah Akbar indeed. who's he? Oh, I forget average steam on first bake segment.
Ps. My family won't let me cheat..........
uncliff
8:53:01 PM
2/14/07

But if you and your family are in the custody of an Islamic "People's Police" you probably won't get a break from watching them get raped and murdered to go home and keep up that schedule.....(LOL)
XL400236
6:32:16 AM
2/15/07

XL likes to watch.
MarkO
8:49:16 AM
2/15/07

Obviously these people that were shot had it coming to them because we invaded Iraq. Muslims can do no wrong because we owe them so much and have so wronged them as a whole.
Nigal
8:58:22 AM
2/15/07

There ya go channeling marKO again, Nigal...
StoveStomper
9:00:07 AM
2/15/07

Oh sorry. Here.

[/sarcasm]
Nigal
9:21:49 AM
2/15/07

I'm headed for the Adirondacks in a couple of hours, TwistyBoy.
Be sure to talk about me when I'm gone.


last edited: 2/15/07 9:27:07 AM
MarkO
9:26:54 AM
2/15/07

LOL..Marky Mark at home


XL400236
9:45:53 AM
2/15/07

Marky marky marky.....
Boo Hoo Hoo...
StoveStomper
9:50:06 AM
2/15/07

That's not me, you moron.

I have at least six dogs under my porch.
MarkO
9:58:51 AM
2/15/07

Hmm, he's a kid from a muslim family from a muslim country. Even though the kid's motivations could've been anything, I think PedX just desperately wants to believe in in his politically correct "moderate majority".
Mutt
10:04:48 AM
2/15/07

The NY Times has even written a puff piece about how this poor muslim was mistreaded and now those bad Mormons are going the lynch them all.

I'll have to dig it out.
StoveStomper
10:08:13 AM
2/15/07

MarkO. I'll give ya C-note if you just give in and let SS blow you so he can get it all out of his system.

Joking!
Nigal
10:22:40 AM
2/15/07

If this guy had a bone to pick and did it because he was a Muslim and he said so or left a note or something it'd safe to say he did because he was a Muslim. Otherwise the only safe thing we can say is he was deeply disturbed and unable to deal with his stress and feelings. When an American christian goes bonkers we don't say a christian killed a bunch of people.

OK, Mutt would say it.
Nigal
10:25:53 AM
2/15/07

NYT
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/02/15/us/15mall.html?_r=1&ref=us&oref=slogin

Anti-Bosnian Backlash Feared in Utah

By KIRK JOHNSON
Published: February 15, 2007

SALT LAKE CITY, Feb. 14 — Most of the thousands of Bosnians living in the Salt Lake City area are refugees of war, and all of them are toughened by the experience of making new lives in a new country.

George Frey for The New York Times
John Buddensick passed the home of Sulejmen Talovic in the Rose Park section of Salt Lake City on Wednesday.

Now, state and local officials say that the rage and grief after the multiple killings here in a shopping mall Monday by an 18-year-old Bosnian immigrant threaten a backlash, and they announced plans on Wednesday for outreach meetings and candlelight vigils to head off trouble and help the city heal.

“We’re concerned, and we’re trying to take proactive steps to keep this from becoming an issue,” said Patrick Thronson, a spokesman for Mayor Rocky Anderson.

Ljubica Roth, the president of the Utah Consortium of Multicultural Groups, an organization that works with refugees and immigrants, said, “We are all stressed.”

Ms. Roth said she received six reports on Wednesday of Bosnians in Salt Lake City being accosted verbally, mostly about how they got into the country, she said, or whether they intended to commit violence.

“Many people didn’t go to work today because they were worried about it,” Ms. Roth said.

The number of Bosnian refugees in the Salt Lake City area has been estimated to be 3,000 to 7,000, most of them Muslims fleeing violence by Serbs in the early 1990s.

Police investigators said they still did not know what made the killer, Sulejmen Talovic, drive to the Trolley Square mall just before 7 p.m. and open fire. Mr. Talovic worked a regular day’s shift until 5 p.m. at a company that supplies uniforms to businesses, his boss said. Then he drove to the mall, strapped on a bandoleer of shotgun shells and a backpack full of handgun ammunition and killed five people before being shot dead by police officers. Four people were seriously wounded and remain hospitalized.

In a state where the mainstream culture is white, politically conservative and Mormon, the mystery of Mr. Talovic’s motive has been compounded by questions of ethnicity, assimilation and psychology. His traumatic experiences as a child in Europe — his family arrived in the United States from Croatia in 1998 when he was 9 or 10, a spokeswoman for Immigration and Customs Enforcement said — might have had much to do with what happened at the mall, or nothing at all. And with no apparent motive for the rampage, tensions are running high.

Mayor Anderson’s spokesman said the mayor would meet with local Bosnians and Bosnia-Herzegovina’s ambassador to the United States on Thursday at a Bosnian restaurant to hear their concerns. An outdoor vigil is scheduled for Thursday night downtown, with the mayor and Gov. Jon Huntsman Jr. in attendance and Bosnians and non-Bosnians invited.

“Governor Huntsman is hopeful that residents will see this as an isolated act by one deeply deranged individual and not use it to unfairly judge an entire community,” said Michael Mower, a spokesman.

The mystery over Mr. Talovic was just as deep in Rose Park, the working class, mostly immigrant neighborhood of northwest Salt Lake City where he and his family lived. Mr. Talovic was a legal United States resident with a green card.

Few neighbors remembered him, but they described the other Talovic family members, including his younger sisters, his mother and his father — who they said was a truck driver who was often away — as quiet and respectable. The family could not be reached by telephone, and no one answered the door at their bungalow. On the front porch, someone had left a gift-wrapped potted flower. Wedged into the door jamb was a sealed envelope with one hand-written and underlined word: “Sorry.” Inside it, visible through the address window, were $20 bills.

Dr. Stevan Weine, a professor of psychiatry at the University of Illinois at Chicago who is writing a book about Bosnian teenagers in the United States, said Bosnians often had higher rates of mental problems because of their experiences in the civil war in their homeland. But he said those difficulties were generally not expressed through violence.

Some Bosnians in Utah say that all the generalizations about what Bosnians are or are not or what sort of psychological baggage they carry is irrelevant to the story of the Trolley Square killings.

“There’s bad people everywhere,” said Emir Ceho, a 23-year-old truck driver who came to Utah from Bosnia when he was 12. “My family survived war and came here with nothing, and now we’re O.K.”

Mr. Ceho, sitting at the counter at Bosna, a Bosnian restaurant, dug into cevapi, a sweetly spiced sausage sandwich that is his favorite dish. Soccer blared on the television, “What was in his head?” he asked, referring to Mr. Talovic. “I just keep wondering what he was thinking.”


*****************************


Typical NYT spin.
This is as close as the NYT is going to get to letting us know that it just happened to be a Muslim that was on a shooting rampage. This, only in the context of an article handwringing about how those people in Utah are probably ginning up a backlash. Any curiosity about the motivation of the gunman? Nope, that would only feed the backlash.

I just love how the MSM tries to stoke fears of anti-Muslim backlash while downplaying the Muslim's chronic tendency to slaughter.

Classic Muslim/Democrat tactic: blow up a couple of buildings, run over people with an SUV or shoot up a mall and immediately they start crying that they are victims.
StoveStomper
10:30:44 AM
2/15/07

But do we know he did it because he was a Muslim? If we don't know for sure then his religion has no nothing to do with it.

What are the Mormons going to do to them in a backlash? Proselytize them to death?
last edited: 2/15/07 10:43:33 AM
Nigal
10:42:37 AM
2/15/07

We'll never know from the MSM, Nigal.
Got to keep the rednecks from getting stirred up and attacking poor innocent Muslim killers. ;-)
StoveStomper
10:45:09 AM
2/15/07

So should every criminal have his religion listed in the news story? Race? Color? Political affiliation? Sexual orientation?
Nigal
10:47:52 AM
2/15/07

Nigal, do you think if a Mormon had done this it wouldn't be on the front page?
StoveStomper
10:49:02 AM
2/15/07

I am betting eventually you will see where the family KNEW something was going to happen...(Like the Twits in Columbine) but refused to face reality.
XL400236
1:53:51 PM
2/15/07

"“So should every criminal have his religion listed in the news story? Race? Color? Political affiliation? Sexual orientation?”
Nigal"

Obviously for some, the action of one is a pure reflection of many.

I say we then hold them to their same standard.
laqtis
2:08:55 PM
2/15/07

WOW..thats awful Intolerant there Laqtose. In the case of Christians...please explain the COMMON standard?
XL400236
2:13:34 PM
2/15/07

"“WOW..thats awful Intolerant there Laqtose."

I know, that is why I have no idea why you employ this line of thinking. If you employ it, it should only be fair to use it in your case, it would appear.

With that, it's obvious that both you and stove are the typical and true examples of every Republican.

No wonder they're in such a mess.
last edited: 2/15/07 2:19:29 PM
laqtis
2:18:32 PM
2/15/07

Hi Robin! It's nice to see my silly little slalker again!
StoveStomper
2:22:18 PM
2/15/07

Man did they turn down the Spiff Arino exhibit again Laqty....

Kinda sounds like Lackey...as in mindless drone. (what the libbies like best).
XL400236
2:45:18 PM
2/15/07

Looks like the truth really hurts the two of you guys, eh?

Typical Republicans. So sensitive when you hold them up to there own logic. These guys cry so much, you'd think the Republicans were French.

Well, it would appear they planned the Iraqi invasion like French commanders, so maybe I'm not that far off.
laqtis
3:17:00 PM
2/15/07

Robin is so silly. ;-)
StoveStomper
3:36:39 PM
2/15/07

So two passes on a defense, eh?

What's the matter? Retreating on defense like the French, while lobbing weak insults?

Guess I was closer than I thought.

I hereby re-dub thy trail name to Frenchy!
last edited: 2/15/07 3:40:18 PM
laqtis
3:38:53 PM
2/15/07

Actually (and they probably skip over this in "Humping your teenage Museum Intern 405" but you know we took more ground quicker than ever in history...how much ground did the One year occupation of Bosnia take?...Oh thats right NOT A FOOT (LOL)>

Poor lackytose gonna graduate, get a job as the 13th assistant part time temporary reserve alternate standin director of the West Memphis Museum of Natural History.....
XL400236
3:59:55 PM
2/15/07

Black Jacque Shellaque Q?
Nigal
4:07:05 PM
2/15/07

I hereby re-dub xl to "The Poodle"!

Frenchy and The Poodle. Two perfect and truw representations of all Republicans.

LOL!
laqtis
4:16:16 PM
2/15/07

Sorry, nigal. No abla French-ooo; perhaps Frenchy, or The Poodle could help me out with the translation?
laqtis
4:18:51 PM
2/15/07

Phaedrus
6:06:28 PM
2/15/07

LMAO!
My cute lil pumpkin head buddy is so silly.
StoveStomper
6:13:18 PM
2/15/07

Ya know, Black Jacque Shellaque from the Buggs Bunny cartoons?

Nigal
7:31:43 PM
2/15/07

"My cute lil pumpkin head buddy is so silly.”
StoveStomper"



Running a little low in the well, are we?

If we are really going to get down to the real personal level, I am very confident that the amount of your "imperfections" will greatly exceed mine.

You really wanna dance, Frenchy?
laqtis
8:20:55 PM
2/15/07

"Ya know, Black Jacque Shellaque from the Buggs Bunny cartoons?”
Nigal

Man, I am really drawing a "nono rememberous", otherwise known as "failious recongnineous".

Was this McKinnon, or Jones directed?
laqtis
8:26:28 PM
2/15/07

"StoveStomper
9:17:08 PM
2/15/07"


English, Motherphucker. DO YOU SPEAK IT?!!


last edited: 2/15/07 8:40:37 PM
laqtis
8:39:29 PM
2/15/07

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