BACKPACKING STOVES-WHAT'S BEST?

“stove and meangreen must both have me on ignore!

wonder what I did!”

“Oh crap Roam! Sorry. I guess I missed it. Thanks. so just what do you do? Cut it to size, then fold it in half?”

“LOL

no prob man.

you just cut it to size and then bend the ends so they fold together and stay put, so you want it to be about two inches longer to allow for the required overlap. I used a hole punch to put air holes in teh bottom.

You don't need to double it over, its plenty heavy enough for one thickness to do the job.

Buy it at Wal Mart over in the kitchen gadget section. It looks like a tray that your sposed to put in the bottom of the oven to catch drips. You can cut it with scissors.
last edited: 9/28/06 6:34:51 PM”

“******NOTICE******

These will be the last posts from Roam & meangreen as they make windscreens for their Pocket Rockets and heat the canisters.

*******NOTICE*******


KABOOM!”

“Yeah be carefull with heating up the cannisters too much. They could go boom! A cool windscreen fo a Pocket Rocket would just enclose the burner and pot bottom.”

“hey stovestomper, whadda 'bout that thing you got that looks like it was part of a ship? -- the old stove. . . .

I use the Pocket Rocket for conditions down to about 35 degrees; older model XGK in colder temps.

I wouldn't have wanted to be left using the PR on FYAO this past Feb. -2 or so below 0.”

“Here's a few of my old pot stand/windscreen designs I have made from my old defunct website.

http://www.cloudwalkersbasecamp.com/agg_pot_stand.html

http://www.cloudwalkersbasecamp.com/new_design_windscreen.html

http://www.cloudwalkersbasecamp.com/homemade_msr_windscreen.html

http://www.cloudwalkersbasecamp.com/solidfuel_stovewindscreen.html”

“precision - ???????”

“very good point on the pocket rocket windscreen! I havn't made one yet, but it does need to somehow have 'legs' that allow air to flow around the canister and only really protect the flame.

Maybe thats why they don't sell a windscreen with the stove in the first place.”

“Yeah be carefull with heating up the cannisters too much. They could go boom! A cool windscreen fo a Pocket Rocket would just enclose the burner and pot bottom.”
Lthiker
7:51:41 PM
9/28/06


Oooh.... I have been challenged, and thus inspired!


gadget report to come in about 7 days.

(insert insane "Dr. Fronkensteen" voice)
IT... COULD... WORK!!!!!!!!”

“Sorry to overlook you, Roam Around.”

“I used a single burner coleman stove for many years with very good results. I went to the MSR to reduce weight but miss the Colemans flame adjustability. My MSR is on or off.

Hiking these days, I very rarely light a fire or cook except on canoe trips.”

“I have the pocket rocket and a stove handed down to me from my grandfather that runs off sterno. like'em both”

““It's the original Pepsi can stove design

hmmm, never seen anyone have trouble lighting these...the alcohol just sits right there in the middle and ya light it”
thriftyhiker
4:40:56 PM
9/28/06

I don't have a problem lighting it, but it never seems to get my water to a roaring boil, except at home, which never made any sense to me because I test the thing in the middle of the back yard out in the open.”

““I have an old (I mean 1970's old) Optimus 8R...anyone ever used one?”
XL400236
5:09:39 PM
9/28/06
Yup, I have one too. I put a rebuilt kit into it in the mid '90s and it works like it's brand new. It's the most reliable stove I own. The only reason I don't use it much is because it's so heavy.”

“I don't have a problem lighting it, but it never seems to get my water to a roaring boil, except at home,

maybe you should stick to camping in your back yard LOL”

“I bought an old Coleman SS I think camp stove from the 40' at a garage sale. It is huge compared to today's stoves.
It Looks like the one on the left.
http://terrence.marsh.faculty.noctrl.edu/lantern/coleman520stovesopendegroff.jpg[img]”

““Yeah be carefull with heating up the cannisters too much. They could go boom! A cool windscreen fo a Pocket Rocket would just enclose the burner and pot bottom.”
Lthiker

SCIENCE WARNING*****************************

Pressurized canisters have a pressure relief valve that will blow when the tank overpressures. The only way you can precipitate a BLEVE (Boiling Liquid Evaporating Vapor Explosion...or Blast Leveling Everything Very Effectivly) is to impinge (direct flame contact) in the top or gas portion of the tank. This overheats the metal causing failure and then a release of Propane/Butane which expands as normal and then expands again by the ignition. That gives you the spectacular explosions you see on TV.

Will this happen in a fuel canister under a stove...Not very likely. In Nebraska and some of the other Southern Canadian States farmers routinely light fires around the tanks of propane to get the propane up to a boiling temp in the middle of winter.”

“Yeah I don't think I will try that.”

“I have different stoves for different reasons.

* Alcohol stove: Red bull can, pressurized side burner design. This is more or less my three-season stove of choice for personal use.

* Canister stove: Snow Peak titanium without igniter (the igniter is useless and I prefer a butane lighter since it's dual use). I use this on trips where I am lazy and weight is not as big an issue (kayaking, for example).

* Liquid fuel: Kerosene in the Burnton Optimus Nova multi-fuel stove. Used mostly for cold weather (winter) where I need to melt snow for water or for large group trips where I need to cook for a lot of people (liquid fuel has 2x the BTU/lb over gas or alcohol).”

“SS,
I think I'll make one of those with the tent-like pegs through it. That looks down-right professional IMHO.

And you always have hot steaks on the trail.”

“Those are tent stakes, precision.
Dual Use!!!! LOL

http://www.cloudwalkersbasecamp.com/agg_pot_stand.html

I will admit that design sucks big ones if you take it hiking and you only stay in Smoky Mountain Shelters without bringing a tent along for the stakes. LOL
(Did that one time)
last edited: 9/29/06 11:11:38 AM”

“COOL...you guys are making me think about the alchohol stove....One of my friends has the stove from Anti Gravity gear...is there a better type of alchohol stove?”

“THANKS FOR EVERYTING ABOUT STOVES!WNCMAN!”

“XL - that question is almost unanswerable - cooking with alcohol is one of those things where the whole system has to be considered - things like pot size, windscreen details, pot lid, pot support, what your goal is as in fast cooking or fuel efficient cooking, how much water you need to boil or whatever you are cooking - all that goes into the decision as whether a particular burner is better for you than another burner. All that said the AGG burner is a good middle of the road burner as far as I know but then I have never played with one.
last edited: 9/29/06 2:55:21 PM”

“Ya an actual gear thread that stayed on topic for two whole pages. A definate rarity around here. LOL!”

“btw before I bought a burner I would make one - something like a super cat would be good and reasonably easy to make”

“Only here will you get so many guys, or gals for that matter, to tell the world they use a pocket rocket. LOL!

I personally like to eat muffins while using mine. LMAO!”

“do you bake the muffins in a bakepacker?




(he asks disingenuously)”

“Nah... I only get the free ones that are "ready to eat".


Though it has been long enough that I may have to resort to buying them...”

“I started my coat hanger wind screen for the pocket rocket last night. I'm trying to make it so that it is on "legs" so there is no heating of the tank. This may prove to be more difficult than I thought.”

“HMM...I am thinking about getting one of the oven wraps, seems lightweight etc etc. Good luck let me know what happens”

“If it works like I want it to it will fold flat, and have 3 or 4 pannels, and be able to stand up on it's own. So far it's lookin kinda big. I will have to work on making it smaller.”