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Are we discussing the poster s@rge who used to be here? I remember when I first joined this site, he was active. I decided to go elsewhere rather than put up with him.
Frolicking Dino
7:25:45 PM
12/24/06

LOL...man long couple of days....but I saw this on TV Friday on Duty.

Nifong never, repeat NEVER interviewed the "victim" this was political totally...but then we have seen that on both sides...Boy George hiker, UM I am totally in agreement if and IF the President violates the oath..so what are your opinions on a President who obstructs the right of another citizen to receive a fair trial on their complaint...You know commits PERJURY...I don't remember a whole lot of libbies calling on Slick to resign. But then duplicity...has always been your strong suit.

Hopefully, if Nifong is in the wrong, the voters will replace him.
Forgettable Dino


Boy Dino you believe this huh? WOW...so what is total bliss like (ref Ignorance is Bliss). ?
XL400236
8:13:36 PM
12/24/06

"Are we discussing the poster s@rge who used to be here?"

No. The Kevin in question is the troll "Stovestomper"; however, Kevin and Sgt. Moontrol conversed quite often as exhibited by the multiple "grab-ass" sessions they had on any given day.
last edited: 12/24/06 9:56:42 PM
laqtis
9:54:23 PM
12/24/06

Thanks for the info, laqtis.

XL, maybe the lack of outcry about Slick Willy was because we the people could care less where he put his cigar, fingers or private part and were sick of the amount of time, effort and money wasted on trying get something, anything on Clinton by the Rep's. A president lying about upholding the constitution is a bit more serious - I'm just saying....

BTW, XL, Slick Willy went on national TV, admitted he had lied and tried to make things right with his wife, daughter and the American public. When is GWB planning to start seeking atonement? My guess is never because he isn't one-tenth the man Clinton was.
Frolicking Dino
5:13:58 AM
12/25/06

My guess is never because he isn't one-tenth the man Clinton was.”
Frolicking Dino
5:13:58 AM
12/25/06


Comparing W to Clinton is like comparing the Ford Escort to the Chevy Chevette. Neither one turned out to be anything to brag about.
last edited: 12/25/06 8:51:51 AM
StickmanWalking
8:48:16 AM
12/25/06

Whoa!!

Sarge died....................again?
MarkO
10:37:15 AM
12/25/06

dont tell me you missed it, marko? he didnt "die", but he did say he was done with tt. again. i hope he means it this time. hes done nothing but bring down the morale of this board for two years. i gave him the benefit of the doubt for so long, but finally got sick of him. its too bad. he couldve had some good friends here, but chose to alienate everyone instead. his leaving was the best christmas present he could give us
crash bang
10:42:10 AM
12/25/06

I went to West Virginia Friday and got home last night.

Hairy Christmas to all.
MarkO
10:45:15 AM
12/25/06

i think his last post as moonglo was on the 22nd. its a doozy. proclaiming victory and accusing us of acting superior while being very smug and superior at the same time. its a classic for the ages
crash bang
10:48:23 AM
12/25/06

"Comparing W to Clinton is like comparing the Ford Escort to the Chevy Chevette. Neither one turned out to be anything to brag about." I'd say it is more like comparing a Corvette with no engine, steering mechanism or electrical system to a running small car that is both reliable and economical.
Frolicking Dino
11:42:07 AM
12/25/06

LOL...Dino...in a LEGAL DEPOSITION...he denied any action. The reason this is so damaging is that say a COP pulls you over and is charging you. In court his position in the Executive Branch will carry more weight than yours as a common citizen.

So lets say you find out he is lying left and right etc. Things that would discredit the officer. He gets on the stand and denies it. As a result you are not able to gain a fair and impartial trial. Is this a bad thing in the liberal inbred thinking?

Or does it go that Lying in a sworn testimony by the only person who takes a Constitutional Oath have a different shade of grey when they are your guy?
XL400236
4:16:36 PM
12/25/06

XL - Clinton lied about his own actions. National security was not involved and no one died as a result. Can't say that about some of GWB's lies. That is what makes GWB's lying more heinous in my way of thinking. LBJ was a democrat and felt somewhat the same way about him. It isn't about what party they are part of for me.
Frolicking Dino
5:59:35 PM
12/25/06

Once again GW did not lie...his reasons as stated in the order passed by Congress was to enforce UN treaties.

Clinton lied to obstruct an American Citizen from getting her legal day in court. Now I am not sure what you count as loss of life. Cole, Anbar Towers...all were examples of Slick lying. and they ALL cost us lives that were never responded to.

Check out the Ginko....I hear it works well and won't effect the "depends" problems.
XL400236
6:32:22 PM
12/25/06

How about they both lied and they are both wrong?
Nigal
6:38:02 PM
12/25/06

I know how some of you guys go for that bumpersticker philosophy, so here's a recent classic:

"Clinton lied and nobody died."



Maybe Clinton is the Chevette and W is an M1A1... running over people a la Tiananmen Square?


yikes.
Tilt
5:49:28 PM
12/26/06

XL is mean to girls.


Clinton lied about sex.

Dubya lies about everything.
MarkO
6:12:32 PM
12/26/06

Silly Q.

I wasn't slamming your son, and a rational man could see that it was not an attack on your son..
I was slamming you and your hypocritical ways.

Let's try READING again:

“This year, I'm going to see if #1 will be up for reading the evening Christmas story to the whole family this year. It's amazing how far above his age level he reads at.”
laqtis
10:06:38 AM
12/22/06

Let's hope he reads and writes better than daddy. Good luck on your college papers. ;-)
StoveStomper
11:16:33 AM
12/24/06

For someone that likes to laugh at my less than perfect grammar, typing, and spelling, Q should not throw a hissy fit when he gets called out on his own poor skills.

If you use a silly standard, Q, don't cry if that same standard gets used on you.

I'm pretty sure, Q's papers will get an "F" if he keeps ending his sentences with "at", LOL.
StoveStomper
7:05:45 PM
12/26/06

Heck Nigal...they are Politicians....their lips are moving they are lying and equivocating.
XL400236
7:18:27 PM
12/26/06

Prevaricating, too.
MarkO
7:30:10 PM
12/26/06

I still wish prosecuter would chip in with his opinion.
StoveStomper
7:32:26 PM
12/26/06

ditto postvaricating.
Tilt
8:03:30 PM
12/26/06

Prosecutor doesn't have opinions, he has "pronouncements".
Nimblefoot
8:12:52 PM
12/26/06

About damn time!!!
http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/12/28/D8MA4EB80.html

Bar Files Complaint Against Duke D.A.
Dec 28 5:36 PM US/Eastern

By AARON BEARD
Associated Press Writer

RALEIGH, N.C.

The North Carolina bar filed an ethics complaint Thursday against the prosecutor in the Duke lacrosse case, accusing him of breaking four rules of professional conduct when speaking to the reporters about the sensational case.
The punishment for ethics violations can range from admonishment to disbarment.

Among the rules District Attorney Mike Nifong was accused of violating was a prohibition against making comments "that have a substantial likelihood of heightening public comdemnation of the accuser."

In a statement, the bar said it opened a case against Nifong in March 30, a little more than two weeks after the party where a 28-year-old student at North Carolina Central University hired to perform as a stripper said she was raped.

Nifong did not immediately return a call for comment.

Nor did defense attorney Joseph Cheshire, who represents one of the three lacrosse players charged with sexual offense and kidnapping.

Last week, Nifong dropped the rape charges against the three athletes after the stripper wavered in her story.
StoveStomper
8:26:07 PM
12/28/06

Stooge is gone again? A Christmas gift to TT???
Geobeet
8:12:18 AM
12/29/06

LOL...um AHEM...been predicting this.
XL400236
8:31:52 AM
12/29/06

So is a "fuegoite" a good thing or a bad thing?
bearmagnet
9:06:27 AM
12/29/06

the Duke lacrosse case

Is there a news drought?
mARKo
9:11:58 AM
12/29/06

Oh thats right...when a conservative or possibly well to do kids get their rights trampled on...its not a big deal. I keep forgetting that if the libbie does the trampling its okay.
XL400236
10:36:10 AM
12/29/06

I'm sure these aristocrat kids will survive with no input from lil' ole me.
Isn't that it?
They are poor put upon well to do thoroughbreds and this should be a national "outrage"??

Psssst!
(I don't care)
(I'm not following this)

Wilson Pickett and now James Brown??
(much bigger stories for me)
mARKo
11:11:53 AM
12/29/06

Big Story...? OH sorry Celebrity crap..yeah very important....

Thats why most of this country can name the top five finishers in American Idle and not their own congress representatives.
XL400236
11:25:28 AM
12/29/06

I haven't watched American Idle but I have had a deep and abiding love of American Soul Music for forty years.

Just now I have been practicing Rockin' Around The Christmas Tree in preparation for a guitar and vocal duet with a four year old nephew.

I'm sure your Duke frat boys will get along just fine.
mARKo
11:32:05 AM
12/29/06

My interest is in the music, not the celebrities.
mARKo
11:44:50 AM
12/29/06

UH Huh....."with roll of eyes"...Good thing you never comment on abuses by government in other circumstances.
XL400236
11:46:35 AM
12/29/06

Abuses by government have a scale of real importance and this one is a local "affair" that right-wing weenies are trying to fan the flames of.

Go ahead, spin until you're dizzy......
mARKo
11:50:29 AM
12/29/06

i am amazed xlax hasnt been able to drag world war II references into this thread

(yet)

LOL
hikerboy
2:12:10 PM
12/29/06

Boygeorge (me thinks a Troll of the V variety) here is a historical reference...WACO/Ruby Ridge/500+ FBI files....
XL400236
3:32:16 PM
12/29/06

that right-wing weenies are trying to fan the flames of.

Go ahead, spin until you're dizzy......”
mARKo
11:50:29 AM
12/29/06


Yeah publishing those DNA results really put a spin on things didn't it? Boy, that sneaky DNA really shows a right wing bias!!
StickmanWalking
7:27:36 PM
12/29/06

"Silly Q.

I wasn't slamming your son, and a rational man could see that it was not an attack on your son..
I was slamming you and your hypocritical ways."

Hey dip chit. I said it was low class to use my son as a burn toward me, you phuck. I never said you slammed my son, but used him to try and burn me, you piece of chit.

Get it right, phuck head.

BTW -- You are the last person to talk about being hypocritical, #&%!$. Personal attack? You betcha. I don't have any place for a piece of chit like you who tries to burn me with a comment about my son.

Get it right, ass hat.
last edited: 12/29/06 11:59:26 PM
laqtis
11:52:20 PM
12/29/06

Q, Q, Q....
If you don't even try to improve your reading comprehension, you'll never make it in the academic world.

Oh, have you figured out the error I pointed out about your use of "at"?

Oh course, when you slam someone for spelling and typing errors, don't be so hypocritical to cry about it if you get slammed back.

You are as bad a cry baby as markO.
StoveStomper
8:18:13 PM
12/30/06

Now, back to the thread subject....
http://abcnews.go.com/US/LegalCenter/story?id=2760232

DAs Call for Prosecutor in Duke Lacrosse Case to Step Down

Nifong to Be Tried for Ethics Violations
By LARA SETRAKIAN
ABC News Law & Justice Unit

Dec. 29, 2006 — - In yet another moral blow to Durham County District Attorney Mike Nifong, the North Carolina Conference of District Attorneys called for the prosecutor to step down from the Duke lacrosse case.

The group, which represents district attorneys from across North Carolina, said in a statement that "it is in the interest of justice and the effective administration of criminal justice that Mr. Nifong immediately withdraw and recuse himself from the prosecution."



"It's extraordinarily unusual and it means a great deal," said Joshua Marquis, a district attorney in Clatsop County, Ore.



The district attorney group also called for the case to be reassigned and handed over to "another prosecutorial authority."


The statement was prompted by charges of ethics violations against Nifong filed Thursday by the North Carolina bar. Those allegations accuse Nifong of making inappropriate comments about the case in a series of press interviews early in the proceedings.



"As prosecutors, we do not try our cases in the media. We do not file charges frivolously," Marquis, who is active in the National District Attorneys Association, told ABC News.


"I do not know what the merit of the charges are, but Mr. Nifong has not brought respect to our profession," Marquis said. "Some of his actions have brought great disrepute on the profession of prosecution."



Under North Carolina state law, there is no rule requiring Nifong to recuse himself from the case, even though he has been charged with ethics violations. But Nifong's critics -- including defense attorneys for the three indicted Duke lacrosse players -- say Nifong should step down because the ethics charges create a glaring and unavoidable conflict of interest. A prosecutor, they argue, cannot make fair and independent decisions when he himself is in legal hot water.


"My opinion is that this crystallizes the conflict of interest," Thomas Metzloff, a member of the North Carolina bar and professor at Duke Law School, told ABC News.


No sooner than three months from now, Nifong will stand trial before a panel drawn from the bar's disciplinary hearing commission. If that panel finds Nifong guilty of misconduct, he would be subject to punishment ranging from private admonishment to disbarment.
StoveStomper
8:22:09 PM
12/30/06

The NC Conference of District Attorneys and the NC Bar apparently fell victim to right wing spin. Just ask MarkO.
StickmanWalking
9:28:48 PM
12/30/06

LOL
Yep, mARKo is one of the far left's deepest thinkers.
To bad all his thinking was done in the 60's.
StoveStomper
9:33:36 PM
12/30/06

"Q, Q, Q....
If you don't even try to improve your reading comprehension, you'll never make it in the academic world.

Oh, have you figured out the error I pointed out about your use of "at"?"

What a complete lame ass. LOL!
laqtis
3:55:30 PM
12/31/06

In other words, you have not.
LOL
StoveStomper
8:22:35 PM
1/01/07

Even the Lib Wash Post is turning against him
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/12/30/AR2006123000886.html

Prosecutorial Indiscretion

It's past time to drop all charges in the Duke lacrosse case.
Sunday, December 31, 2006


"THE PROSECUTOR has more control over life, liberty and reputation than any other person in America. His discretion is tremendous. He can have citizens investigated, and, if he is that kind of person, he can have this done to the tune of public statements and veiled or unveiled intimations."

Robert H. Jackson, then the U.S. attorney general, spoke those words to a group of federal prosecutors in 1940. But they ring disturbingly true today about the conduct of Durham County, N.C., District Attorney Michael B. Nifong in prosecuting three Duke University lacrosse players. Just before Christmas, Mr. Nifong dropped rape charges after the accuser said she "could no longer testify with certainty that it occurred." But the three men remain charged with kidnapping and first-degree sexual offense, which carry equally severe penalties. Mr. Nifong should drop those charges as well.

It's been clear for months that Mr. Nifong's case -- to the extent he has a case -- is riddled with flaws that raise serious questions about his motives and ethics. The accuser's story has been inconsistent and unreliable -- and that was even before the latest interview with the prosecutor's office, in which, according to his filing, she said she could no longer be certain she had been penetrated with a #&%!$. The physical evidence was scant at best; the identification procedure -- the woman was shown photographs of only Duke lacrosse players -- was shockingly shoddy; one defendant seems to have an alibi.

In recent weeks, Mr. Nifong has admitted that he failed, as required, to turn potentially exculpatory information over to the defense: test results that showed the presence of semen from several other men, but not the Duke players, in swabs taken from the woman's body and clothing. Mr. Nifong says it was an accidental oversight. Yet the director of the DNA laboratory says that he and the prosecutor agreed to leave that information out of his report because it was so "explosive." If so, Mr. Nifong has a bigger problem than a botched prosecution. He should be subject to further ethics proceedings by state bar authorities, who filed charges Thursday against him for making inflammatory and misleading comments about the case in its early days.

In an interview with the New York Times, Mr. Nifong said that "until [the alleged victim] tells me these are not the right guys, we're prosecuting this case.'' But Mr. Nifong badly misconceives his job as a prosecutor, which is not simply to robotically prosecute claims or seek a conviction at all costs but to make an independent analysis of whether justice would be served by continuing with the case.

The prosecutor, as Robert Jackson said so many years ago, "can have no better asset than to have his profession recognize that his attitude toward those who feel his power has been dispassionate, reasonable and just." Those are not adjectives anyone would use to characterize Mr. Nifong's behavior.
StoveStomper
8:42:02 PM
1/01/07

great backpakcing thread!
hikerboy
9:43:18 PM
1/01/07

Thanks for that post, hikerboy. Touching, and insightful.
StickmanWalking
9:55:38 PM
1/01/07

Is markO's fav lil cowardly troll posting again?
LOL
last edited: 1/01/07 10:01:58 PM
StoveStomper
9:57:16 PM
1/01/07

I think if you had a subsription to the Post then your view might be slightly different, SS.

In any case, being falsely accussed of Rape should not be taken lightly. Especially If the intent was in some way malicious.
bearmagnet
10:42:10 PM
1/01/07

The NC Conference of District Attorneys and the NC Bar apparently fell victim to right wing spin. Just ask MarkO.”
StickmanWalking
10:28:48 PM
12/30/06


Go pick on someone your own size, StickWad.
You and StoveIdiot must really be stuck on me to keep bringing up my name.
(I'm not at all flattered)

Enjoy your game of grabass with Kevin!
MarkO
7:42:01 AM
1/02/07

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