Return to the Batcave Buttkicker

“You all knew this was going to happen...

I am just putting this one down in the Spring so we can toss some dates around and see what sticks. Let's try to get another group as good as last year.

Last year this trip had sort of three levels of hiking you could do: backpacking, kinda tough backpacking, and forget-it-I-bonked-on-the-last-hill deathmarch hiking.

Now you know.

I have NOT forgotten about the McCoy Hollow Trail. That place is amazing and I want to go back. I am for sure doing the deathmarch.”

“I vote for April 16th. AFter tax season is over.”

“haha, that is funny as hell 'cause i picked this weekend because it was after tax day. i had no other reason.

the date is totally movable, however, i think wounded knee and i were tossing the idea of a spring trip around.”

“Go back to that tornado infested, mule dodgin' ankle breakin place?! I'd be crazy not to want to!!
Too soon to say for sure.....I'm a maybe.

I bet it's pretty with the leaves just coming out.”

“I will have to get closer to the event before I can commit, but I am down as a strong maybe.”

“It was one of the best TT trips I've ever been on. That had alot to do with the people, but the place is lovely too.”

“Where be this place?”

“Never mind I went to the trip page. I would be a maybe. There are so many places up here I have to check out yet and spring early summer is My favorite time to be out”

“I am most likely in, but I have myself down as a maybe. Anytime after the 16th should be fine for me.

It looks as if we are planning the same route, yes? Might I suggest staying at the site at second creek. I scoped this sit out while backtracking through to find the group on the last trip. It is high on a bluff and has decent tree cover. Water is available from the stream at the bottom of the hill, so it is close. This was a good sixed site as well, capable of handling at least 8 tents. There was a nice ring for fires as well.

Just a suggestion, I know nothing is that set in stone yet.”

“The question is are there any blackwalnut trees in the 2nd creek site? =D”

“i pulled the details from your list trip, knee, but anything is good. i really want to revisit the mccoy hollow trail tho. magic place and i think i may want to spend more time there rather than race through it.”

“ARe we going to climb Mt. Everest again?”

“Good one Sass! The tree coverage was nice at this site, don't know about the walnut trees.

I figured you were good with anything Jim. As I may have mentioned before, this is the last portion of trails I need to hike here. I have been on all other trails in the backcountry.

Mt Everest?”

“420

we all know what that means.........”

“My IQ”

“The very last hill before you crossed the road to get to the camp site. It might as well have been Mt. Everest. It kicked my butt!”

“Sorry I missed it.

Hey Jimmy, is this hill Stomper is talking about anything like the uphill we had on the Quehanna?”

“BUMP

people, don't miss this trip. this is a repeat of the mammoth cave from last year... a classic.

wounded knee and i are working together on planning this one. we talked in great detail as we were driving back from our NCT trip this weekend. some ideas:

1. there will be multiple loops (three I think) that will map to levels of difficulty so everyone can "hike their own hike".

2. elevations and other statistics will be clearly posted in advance.

3. we are going to for sure have the McCoy Hollow Trail on the advanced hike (the buttkicker)

4. There will be one buttkicker hike (the most advanced) but the other two will be newbie hiking and intermediate.

5. Right now the dates are there as a placeholder only. We want to try to stay in April but we can move the trip a bit so we get "critical mass". Right now I set the date to be just after the weekend taxes are due. TAKE YOU FRUSTRATIONS AT UNCLE SAM OUT ON THE TRAIL!!


:)

Hope you ALL can make it. This was a classic trip last year and is not one to be missed.”

“been there...done that....”

“I am looking forward to it.”

“Ii can't know this far in advance.”

“she lives”

“we talked a lot about you spirit coyote. we MISS you. you must come hike with us... :)”

“Yea, you gotta sleep under a walnut tree again so I can see you get pelted this time.”

“No one actually saw it....we just heard alot of "ows" and giggling.”

“yeah well....if there is a next time, I'm bringing a tent!!! Hey stomper, that hill wasnt so bad...it was stumbling around in the dark along those cliffs without headlamps that kinda freaked me out! :P But really, I was tottaly bonked by the time we got to camp. I'm just shocked I wasnt the last in camp for a change LOL!
last edited: 11/28/06 10:38:46 PM”

“that was funny as anything i had seen that year”

“Seems like the days should be a bit longer in April, compared to last time. I think I better check....”

“i am going to cook up at least 3 routes so as long as people hike to their comfort level all should be good. i downloaded some good USGS topo data for the park and will work out elevation profiles for each of them so people know what they are getting into. aside from the buttkicker hike (one of the three) i see no reason why people should have to hike in the dark unless they choose to do so.”

“Hey, do me a favor you all and convince CMB to go on this one....He doesnt believe me that there was a butt-kicker hike there. ;)”

“I will be there.”

“great news chili! this will be a fun trip.

sc: something tells me if you can't get cmb to go that there is no way i would convince him. :)”

“I'll make it sound exciting so he'll want to go there.”

“I think I will be in Nashville the week before this trip.”

“I have wanted to do this for some time, glad there's a date! I will have Beeves with me (from the Elk River trip w. MDShiker)once again.”

“What are the distances in these different loops? Psycteacher and I have to plan in advance for these things.”

“easy smeasy

every loop is hard, despite the diffrence in length! :)”

“I'm considering caching my back about a mile from the campsite (assuming it's the same site as last year).

I'd like to see the whole trail (long route)but want to enjoy the hike instead of it being a near-death experience.....”

“So... what was the route that was done last year? I'm curious to know if it's the same loop I did in October....”

“i want another massage from sass, so im planning on pulling both hamstrings and maybe a groin”

“you are so bad!”

“i am still planning out the routes (meaning i haven't done this yet). last year the long hike was outstanding, esp the McCoy Hollow Trail.

The '05 trip for those that want to read about it: http://www.thebackpacker.com/trips/trip/753.php

I am thinking the Raymer Hollow Trail this time, but I want to see the martin hollow trail again.

the shorter hikes would be looks around the longer one.

another challenge is camp sites. these have to be reserved in person, or they did in '05 i think. not knowing how many people sort of means id on't know how many camp sites. the place we stayed last year had sites fairly close together. if we get too many people we might have a problem, esp if we camped at a different location.

anyway, i have been doing a rather crummy hob planning out the routes and will spend some time this week. i am off from work this week.
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“oh, and i am open to suggestions”

“I am just hoping I will be healed and out of PT by the time of this trip.

I miss backpacking.”

“I just may have to sign up for this...”

“Crash Bang, in the spirit of Christmas I am not posting what I want to say. ;)

I wouldn't mind stashing my pack too. But then again, I wouldn't mind carrying it either.”

“PACK CACHER!!!

(ungh, sass... i have a cr.. cr.. cramp!!!)”

“OWWWWWWWWWWWWWL! PAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIINNNNNNNNNNNN”

“I am in on this trip.I have never seen this place as hard hiking????

But who am I?

8p”

“Gasp! It posts!”