socialists & communists infiltrating are the USA

“http://www.ocregister.com/ocregister/news/homepage/article_1349072.php

"While it's great to be an American, and I'm proud to be an American, yadda-yadda-yadda, and I appreciate all the rituals, I'm done" saluting the flag, Ball said Wednesday.

...

"Nationalism is something that divides people," said Ball, wearing black boots, a beret and a hammer-and-sickle pin.”

“socialists & communists infiltrating are the USA

yeah yeah .... we got it ... back to the topic now ...”

“American courts bashing our free speech out of "Political Correctness".

http://www.proteinwisdom.com/index.php/weblog/entry/will_the_saudis_succeed_in_importing_sharia_to_the_us_ahem/”

“Socialist organization members physically attack speaker.

http://thehorsesmouth.blog-city.com/110906.htm”

“Mexican infiltration:

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=25920”

“I pledge allegiance to and wrap myself in the flag of the United States Against Anything Un-American and to the Republicans for which it stands, two nations, under Jesus, rich against poor, with curtailed liberty and justice for all except blacks, homosexuals, women who want abortions, Communists, welfare queens, treehuggers, feminazis, illegal immigrants, children of illegal immigrants, and you if you don't watch your step.

matt groening”

“I plead alignment to the flakes of the untitled snakes of a merry cow. And to the Republicans, for which they scam, one nacho, underpants, invisible with licorice and jugs of wine for owls
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“Rep. Nancy Pelosi, the House minority leader certain to become the next speaker of the House, served for years on the executive committee of the socialist-leaning Progressive Caucus, a bloc of about 60 votes or nearly 30 percent of the minority vote in the lower chamber.

Until 1999, the website of the Progressive Caucus was hosted by the Democratic Socialists of America. Following an expose of the link between the two organizations in WorldNetDaily, the Progressive Caucus established its own website under the auspices of Congress. Another officer of the Progressive Caucus, and one of its guiding lights, is avowed socialist Rep. Bernie Sanders, the Vermont independent.

The Democratic Socialists of America's chief organizing goal is to work within the Democratic Party and remove the stigma attached to "socialism" in the eyes of most Americans.



http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=52844”

“he goal of the Democratic Socialists of America has never been deeply hidden. Prior to the cleanup of its website in 1999, the DSA included a song list featuring "The Internationale," the worldwide anthem of communism and socialism. Another song on the site was "Red Revolution" sung to the tune of "Red Robin." The lyrics went: "When the Red Revolution brings its solution along, along, there'll be no more lootin' when we start shootin' that Wall Street throng. ..." Another song removed after WorldNetDaily's expose was "Are You Sleeping, Bourgeoisie?" The lyrics went: "Are you sleeping? Are you sleeping? Bourgeoisie, Bourgeoisie. And when the revolution comes, We'll kill you all with knives and guns, Bourgeoisie, Bourgeoisie."”

“from 2002 about Pelosi's socialist ties

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/788312/posts”

“research their socialist ties:

http://cpc.lee.house.gov/”

“http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialism_in_the_United_States

The Socialist Party was officially founded in 1876 at a convention in Newark, New Jersey. The party was made up overwhelmingly of German immigrants, who had brought Marxist ideals with them to North America. So strong was the inheritage, that the official party language was German for the first three years.”

“mc carthy wouldve liked you”

“Reactionary, socialist drivel
In May of 1945 all Germans stared at each other with a 'what happened' look on their faces. What the fools failed to do was read Hitler’s ‘Mein Kampf’ to educate themselves on the socialist hell he intended to put them through. Hillary’s book, which reads with all the warm of your new blender’s instruction manual, is a clarion call to a world regulated and run from the center. By her elitist attitude ('many of these lessons are simple...but it's apparent that many of us have yet to learn them'), her swift call for compulsion (“The Village needs a town crier...and a town prodder.”), and her complete disdain for any restraints on government power; Hillary gives clear evidence of the clarity to Leon Trotsky's warning that a government that controls access to resources will eventually use that fact to obtain obedience. 'The old principle: who does not work shall not eat, has been replaced with a new one: who does not obey shall not eat.' So if you want to eat, you will learn to accept 'our lifelong responsibility to them (meaning children) and the Village' (p.168). Should you choose, in order to avoid Hillary's lessons, to forbear having children, forget it because 'the Village as a whole owes expectant and new mothers and fathers...the resources they will need' (p.91). 'It is not only parents who need expert coaching in children's development; the rest of the village does, too.' (p.54). An easily duped eager beaver, Hillary gushes that the experts 'have given researchers a whole new understanding of how the human brain develops' so we can now elicit each child's 'full potential' (p.52). 'The quality of the nutrition, care giving, and stimulation the child receives determines how they are wired...for intelligence' (p.58). The Nazis had their plan for a super race built through racial purity; the Communists a new man built through class conscience, now Hillary will breed a new race of super babies through superior federally run day care centers. Fool us once, shame on you, fool us twice, shame on us. Fool us a third time, and we've got Hillary the Village Idiot. How can anyone still fall for such drivel? It takes a college degree to be this stupid. With just a few nips and tucks from the censor's knife, It Takes A Village could have circulated freely in any Communist or Nazi country. This woman is completely bereft of any shred of humility, and has an insatiable urge for power. The Constitution was specifically designed with politicians like Hillary in mind. Read this book carefully, she will be our president soon.

http://search.barnesandnoble.com/booksearch/isbnInquiry.asp?z=y&endeca=1&isbn=0684825457&itm=1”

“http://www.thenewamerican.com/tna/1999/12-20-99/vo15no26_kwanzaa.htm

The founder of Kwanzaa is a petty criminal named Ronald Everett, alias Ron Karenga. In the mid-1960s, Everett created a Los Angeles-based black militant group called United Slaves (US) for the purpose of igniting a "cultural revolution" among American blacks.

...

However, "Karenga’s" so-called Nguzo Saba (seven principles) for his "new black value system" are little more than Marxism transposed into an afrocentric key: Umoja (unity); Kujichagulia (self-determination), which, according to "Karenga," refers to afrocentricity; Ujima (collective work and responsibility); Ujamaa (cooperative economics), which "Karenga" describes as "essentially a commitment to the practice of shared social wealth"; Nia (purpose), which refers to "collective vocation" for black people; Kuumba (creativity); and Imani (faith).

...

Kwanzaa offers a potent illustration of Communist theoretician Antonio Gramsci’s strategy for overthrowing Western society by conducting a "long march through the institutions" of culture, including educational and religious institutions. It is this urge to destroy and defile our Western patrimony that represents the true spirit of Kwanzaa.”

“How sad is it that the middle class is being forced to turn to these so-called "communists" for attention???”

“Okaaaay ... How so PhantomSoul?”

“http://www.geocities.com/graymada/aclu.html

1. Roger Baldwin, founder and guiding light of the ACLU for over 30 years, is now a member of the National Committee of the ACLU.

2. Dr. Harry Ward, first chairman of the ACLU. Dr. Harry Ward has a record of over 200 Communist front affiliations and citations listed by the House Committee on UnAmerican Activities (HCUA).

3. Abraham L. Wirin, chief counsel for the Southern California Chapter of the ACLU, sometimes referred to as "Mr. ACLU."

In 1934 A. L. Wirin formed a law partnership with Leo Gllagher and Grover Johnson (reference: Daily Peoples World, Mar. 5, 1934, official publication of the Communist Party on the west coast). Mr Leo Gallagher ran for State office on the Communist Party ticket in 1936 and Grover Johnson, when asked by a governmental investigating agency if he had ever been a member of the Communist Party, refused to answer the question on the grounds that he might incriminate himself.


lots more on link re: this”

“1. The ACLU, long an advocate of unlimited freedom of the press and freedom of speech, asked Secretary of Defense Charles Wilson to withdraw a pamphlet entitled "How to Spot a Communist," prepared by the 1st Army and used by the Watertown, Mass., arsenal (New York Times, June 12, 1955).”

“In many ways America has become more socialist than China and its been at least a century long trend with:

1- Social Security (for the old and the disabled)
2- Medicare
3- Medicaid
4- public education and safety (police and fire)
5- vast network of public roads, water sytems, sewer sytems, airports, trains
6- upwards of 40% of the countries land in the public trust
7- upwards of half of the agricultural production purchased by the governments for redistribution

In what other ways is America socialist?

What of these would you change and how, Moonglo?

In what ways is it feared that America will become more socialist?
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“The sad part is so few of you got to ever see the STARK difference between Socialisim and Freedom exhibited in Berlin in the 1970's and 1980's.

One side (west Berlin) you have a thriving free cosmopolitan community of color and excitement. Cross Checkpoint Charlie, get your obligatory East German "Guide" (Stadtspolizei officer) to take you and brag about all the great stuff.

Everything was GREY, hell there were still buildings that had not been repaired since 1945. The people looked as excited as a herd of cows. We were obligated to get some East German Marks, spend them (you can't take them back), so we got some beer (imagine Lone Star Light WARM) and some food...Stale cardboard, have no idea what it was.

But on the positive side it was everything equal...yep the Socialists believe in Shared Pain. The hilarious part is the very people who support them are the first to "feel the pain".”

“Most all the progressive countries in the world are now a mix of Freedom and Socialism, including Germany, Russia, China and America. The Iron Curtain fell, China has largely reformed.

Many Islamic countries, Cuba, North Korea and some others are repressive dictatorships and I would not say any of them are socialists.
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“What some would label as socialism in America is what I call the hijacking of the public treasury by big interest groups such as:

the military industrial complex
the medico-pharmico industrial complex
the agrico-chemico industrial complex
and the large group thats siphons money for unwise energy and construction projects (pork)

not to mention the banking/financial industry or the slease that profits from the influx of the tens of millions of illegal 'guest workers'.
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“Lone you gonna cover the Entitlement Crowd in that since it is the largest chunk of change?

Also why wouldn't you consider North Korea or Cuba Socialist? What form of government would you call it? Granted like every Socialist/Communist Government the Animal Farm result occurs...but please classify their style of government if not socialist.”

“why do i feel like im watching a filmstrip where kids duck under desks to be protected from atomic bombs”

“What of these would you change and how, Moonglo?

1- Social Security (for the old and the disabled)
2- Medicare
3- Medicaid
4- public education and safety (police and fire)
5- vast network of public roads, water sytems, sewer sytems, airports, trains
6- upwards of 40% of the countries land in the public trust
7- upwards of half of the agricultural production purchased by the governments for redistribution

lonesurver, except for 4 and 5, I would eliminate the things you mentioned. I believe the government is here primarily for two things: (1) Public safety (includes military, police, etc.) and (2) infrastructure (roads, water systems, etc.)

Clarifying schools, the government (and Unions - which is something else that needs to be addressed on this thread) holds back the (financial) ability of public citizens to put their children in public schools. I don't appreciate this loss of financial freedom.

You failed to mention many redistribution of wealth programs here in the U.S. If you need me to name some, let me know, but I think we all know the problems of over taxation and over spending in programs such as welfare.

In what ways is it feared that America will become more socialist?

Taxing more - more redistribution of wealth - government controls on the home and workplace - eminent domain issues - lack of religious and speech freedoms - these just off the top of my head, you get the idea.”

“The sad part is so few of you got to ever see the STARK difference between Socialisim and Freedom exhibited in Berlin in the 1970's and 1980's.

One side (west Berlin) you have a thriving free cosmopolitan community of color and excitement. Cross Checkpoint Charlie, get your obligatory East German "Guide" (Stadtspolizei officer) to take you and brag about all the great stuff.

Everything was GREY, hell there were still buildings that had not been repaired since 1945. The people looked as excited as a herd of cows. We were obligated to get some East German Marks, spend them (you can't take them back), so we got some beer (imagine Lone Star Light WARM) and some food...Stale cardboard, have no idea what it was.

I spoke to some missionaries who came from there (in recent time). It takes a long time to regain peoples' spirits. Their spirits were BROKEN. They said the people were like zombies ... why not? With socialism you have NO MOTIVATION to live. The people were lifeless. They couldn't comprehend the concept of anything beyond anything concrete - things they can physically touch. It's quite amazing what the lack of freedoms and the removal of motivation can do to the human spirit.”

“Clarifying schools, the government (and Unions - which is something else that needs to be addressed on this thread) holds back the (financial) ability of public citizens to put their children in public schools. I don't appreciate this loss of financial freedom.


a shiny quarter goes to anyone who can find the sensical thought in this quote”

“I spoke to some missionaries who came from there (in recent time). It takes a long time to regain peoples' spirits. Their spirits were BROKEN. They said the people were like zombies ... why not? With socialism you have NO MOTIVATION to live. The people were lifeless. They couldn't comprehend the concept of anything beyond anything concrete - things they can physically touch. It's quite amazing what the lack of freedoms and the removal of motivation can do to the human spirit.

the amount of confusion you guys have between the words 'economic' and 'social' is making me come to believe you think all that people are meant to do is make money.

socialism is an economic system and does not at all have any connection to reduced personal social freedoms. if you look at a few northern european countries, you will see tons of economic programs that are very socialist, but the people have much more personal freedom than the citizens of the U.S.

socialism is also not a system of government. just as capitalism is not a system of government. they are both economic systems. there is no necessary connection between how much a government regulates money and how much a government regulates people. money does not equal freedom. money does not equal happiness. get it through your heads.
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“I agree many of the entiltlement programs should be severely cutback if not completely eliminated.

The eminent domain threat is being misused of late to seize private property to turn over to large business interests, the culprit again, not as an example of socialism but rather an unfair redistribution of wealth, I call that fascism.

North Korea and Cuba exhibit authoritarian central planning, if socialism-then very poor examples.

I suppose France, Canada, Denmark, Sweden and Norway are examples of socialism carried somewhat further than in the U.S..
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“lonesurveyor - this is also a communism thread, let's not lost site of that.

Your socialist country examples are frightening - I hate that our country is moving in that direction, ... VERY quickly. The loss of freedoms there should make any of us violently ill.”

“the greatest lie that the american people believe is that their freedom = their money. this has to change.

as we have seen, a large portion of people in this country are much more opposed to giving an extra dollar a year to help the nations poor than they are to giving their government the ability to invade every aspect of their private lives.

moonglo - please outline for us the social policies in each of those countries which makes you say that their citizens are less 'free' than the citizens of the united states. we can start with literacy rates. then move on to rates of imprisonment. then go from there.
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“this is also a communism thread, let's not lost site of that.

seriously, learn to speak English. i know fresh of the boater's from china who have spent their entire lives learning to speak english correctly and what do they see when they get here?

people like you who confuse homonyms, cant conjugate verbs, and have repulsive syntax telling them to learn the language or leave.

way to go, patriot.
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“n/m
last edited: 11/10/06 8:49:25 AM”

“In terms of the 'upwards of 40% of American land being in the public trust' that Moonglo would like to eliminate,

it does make for backpacking opportunities

provides the commodities of wildlife habitat/biodiversity maintenace, watershed protection and timbergrowth that cannot be maintained over centuries by private market enterprises

is largely a holdover from the formation of America

and warrants being slightly further expanded as private owners are willing to sell as funds can be raised (Pelosi is for this).
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“LOL...people on the left keep up the "Communisim is not threat to me"...I am pretty sure the little farmers in Georgia in the early 1900s felt the same way about Stalinisim.”

“XL, our current Fascist approach to agriculture is not working either.

The remedy is for the government to get out of farming and let the farmers sink or swim on their own, including the likes of Monsanto and ADM.

Let the 10 acre to 1000 acre private, non-huge corporation farmer, like me, compete again.
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“LOL...people on the left keep up the "Communisim is not threat to me"...I am pretty sure the little farmers in Georgia in the early 1900s felt the same way about Stalinisim.

wait, so was it stalinism or communism that messed them up?

i thought it was socialism too?

which one was the problem xl400?

OH MY GOD ALL OF THESE WORDS! SO CONFUSING! I MIGHT AS WELL JUST COMBINE ALL THE IDEAS INTO ONE CALLED 'ENEMY' AND MAKE IT EASY FOR MYSELF”

“So What?


Leave if you don't like it.


Leave and take your kind and your tinfoil hats, with you.”

“no, see, s-rge is a flag-saluter, so its ok for him to birch about the country he loves so much. only libbie hippie commie freaks have to love it or leave it”

“crash - I am not "birching" about the country I love so much, but the CHANGES happening to the country.

Do you not see the difference? That is the whole point, that I like the country the way it was designed, not the way some people would like to CHANGE it too.”

“Anyone is free to come here and believe whatever they like and that is fine. When their beliefs threaten to change or replace the constitution, that is when they are out of bounds. And saying so doesn't make you a paranoid McCarthy-ite.”

“whatever. if some libbie commie demmy freak was complaining about the CHANGES in the country, you or xl or someone of your ilk would trot out the old "america love it or leave it" attitude. dont split hairs”

“if some libbie commie demmy freak was complaining about the CHANGES in the country, you or xl or someone of your ilk would trot out the old "america love it or leave it" attitude.

I'll say this again crash. It's the CHANGES that I have a problem with. By definition, the liberal communists WANT to change the country. By definition, the conservatives what to PRESERVE the country as it is (or I should say, as it was intended before the socialist/commies started getting into the legal system).

Basic constitutional rights and principles are being eroded. Improvement is good (meaning clarifying FREEDOMS to citizens and RESTRICTIONS on government - as the Constitution was intended to do), but removing freedoms is bad, and I can't believe you would disagree with that.
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“That is the whole point, that I like the country the way it was designed, not the way some people would like to CHANGE it too.

this country was designed to change.

thats why we have the amendment process for the constitution you fuc­king moron.”

“therefore, by definition, giving women the vote and blacks their freedom and the vote was a LIBERAL move. i suppose youre ok with those two libbie movements.”