the GREED thread

“NEW YORK (Fortune) -- When Muhammad Yunus travels to Norway to receive the Nobel Peace Prize Dec. 10, he will come prepared to fight for management control over a company he believes is sucking profits from the poor of Bangladesh.

While in Oslo, Yunus says he intends to point out the irony that the country that is awarding him the Nobel Prize for his pioneering work on microcredit is also home to a state-controlled company, Telenor, which he says refuses to honor an agreement to allow Yunus's nonprofit Grameen Bank to take majority control of their joint mobile-phone venture.

-- source: Fortune Magazine.

Ah, GREED rears it's ugly head daily, hourly, etc. Please post examples of GREED here on the GREED thread.”

“Well lets start with the UNIONS, The Defeatocrats...etc etc etc....their greed plans on NOTHING but acquisition of power.”

“How did this case work out???

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Dem Labor leader arrested for racketeering

By PAT MILTON, Associated Press Writer
Tue Oct 17, 5:19 PM ET

NEW YORK - The president of the nation's largest municipal labor council was arrested on federal racketeering charges Tuesday, accused of stealing more than $2 million from the state, labor unions and even a Little League fund.

Brian M. McLaughlin, a seven-term Democratic state assemblyman and president of the New York City Central Labor Council, has been under investigation for several years.

He surrendered Tuesday morning and was released on $250,000 bail after a brief appearance before U.S. Magistrate Judge James C. Francis. McLaughlin and his lawyer, Jonathan Bach, declined to comment as they left U.S. District Court in Manhattan.

"Everyone should keep in mind that Brian McLaughlin has not been convicted of a crime and will be afforded the opportunity to respond to and defend himself against these allegations," said the labor council's executive board chairman, Denis M. Hughes.

The labor council is an umbrella group of unions that has supported Mayor Michael Bloomberg.

In a 186-page indictment unsealed Tuesday, McLaughlin and others are accused of engaging in racketeering from 1995 through 2006 by using money collected for union activities to instead pay personal expenses, including credit card bills, rent and home improvements.

The indictment alleges McLaughlin committed mail fraud, embezzlement, money laundering and labor bribery by diverting money from various funds he controlled.

Among the funds identified were McLaughlin's political campaign committee, union accounts meant to provide benefits for union members and even contributions meant to support a Little League baseball program.

The indictment also alleges McLaughlin and others misappropriated funds from the state by creating fictitious jobs on his legislative staff and submitting false expense forms.

Among the expenses named in the indictment were more than $4,100 to maintain a boat in Tuckerton, N.J., and $4,200 for Long Island country club membership dues.

The indictment accuses McLaughlin of combining with others, not named in the indictment, to obtain hundreds of thousands of dollars in unlawful payments and things of value from street lighting contractors and other companies in the street lighting and traffic signal industry.

It also focuses at one point on a housing development created in 1950 by union leaders and electrical industry management that resulted in more than 30 large apartment buildings. As part of the development, residents created the Electchester Athletic Association Inc. to run a youth sports programs.

The indictment alleges McLaughlin used his position as state assemblyman to direct state money to that athletic association, then defrauded the association of more than $95,000.

Meanwhile, the indictment noted, McLaughlin continued soliciting donations to the athletic fund with sponsorship forms thanking the contributor and concluding with the message: "A CHILD IN SPORTS STAYS OUT OF THE COURTS!”

“While in Oslo, Yunus says he intends to point out the irony that the country that is awarding him the Nobel Prize for his pioneering work on microcredit is also home to a state-controlled company, Telenor, which he says refuses to honor an agreement to allow Yunus's nonprofit Grameen Bank to take majority control of their joint mobile-phone venture.

None greedier than a state run business either. I'm for free markets and legal maximum profit though.

"Never brag about what you have but never, EVER apologize for what you have earned."

- My Mother”

“I love how the libbies in this country point to the successful in life and say they are greedy. LOL...I remember when the CLEENTONS attacked Bill Gates then it turned out that Bill had done more for making Millionaires in this nation than they had.

I have noticed in the GREED category they never seem to list the corrupt politicians from poor areas who have made a bundle off their constituents...with kick backs etc. And when you ask the constituents why they keep electing them they say<"OH he care fo us." Yet they never seem to notice that he is throwing them the crumbs from his table. (LOL).

We had a State Senator here who had a big Fund Raiser Football game every year...it was supposed to raise money for minority scholarships....turned out he was skimming off so much money he could only afford to give a couple of piddly scholarship.

Well actually he did give some to he political cronies kids (people like the Superintendant, etc)....but when you interview his supporters they thought it was okay...since "He helped us.".....”

“I get very mystified by people vilify rich republicans but ignore the rich democrats. And I'm not saying that's what you're doing Buddha with this thread. It's just one aspect of greed I don't understand.
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“Greed knows no bounds.”

“What cracks me up is people thinking only rich people are greedy.

There are lots of greedy poor people too, they're just not as smart.

Many of those "greedy" rich people were once poor or of average wealth.”

“Greedy Poor people for anyone who wonders are those lower income folk who blow tons of money on Lottery/Bingo/gambling.....they want the MONEY they just don't want to work for it.

They are also those people who want the hammock of Government to provide all, and seem to only be happy when the truly successful are "getting it stuck to them" even though they (the Leeches of society) will NEVER see a penny of it.”

“"“Greedy Poor people for anyone who wonders are those lower income folk who blow tons of money on Lottery/Bingo/gambling.....they want the MONEY they just don't want to work for it.

They are also those people who want the hammock of Government to provide all, and seem to only be happy when the truly successful are "getting it stuck to them" even though they (the Leeches of society) will NEVER see a penny of it.”"

Pretty general statement. What percentage of the American population does your claim apply to?”

“How's that government paycheck, X?”

“Lt. Dan is a public servant isn't he?

Which state?”

“MarkO, I don't see how "people who want the hammock of Government to provide all" can be construed as all public workers or those who perform a service for the community. Even I can see he is talking about welfare recipients.”

“Sure Nigal, the guy is hung up on "welfare queens"......no kiddin'.
What else in new? Here's a guy who works for government(like I do) and bad-mouths people who he is supposed to serve. There's at least a hint of mental illness in all that semi-coherent blather.......or maybe he just needs to get more sleep.


I don't know anyone who wants the "hammock of Government".
Maybe I don't run in the right circles to see any of that.

I prefer to have a positive outlook on life and humankind.”

“I personally have a HUGE problem with sypmathy and mercy for those less fortunate than myself. Because I work with two disabled guys who I see struggle for normalcy and strive to do all they can, and how much they hate the system they are forced into. How much they desire to have even the lowest of jobs within our society. To do anything! And I have seen them hold these lowly jobs gladly and with joy.

And then I see them. You know them. The guy with two arms and two legs who is fully physically capable of achieving nearly anything and he's standing by the off ramp holding a sign begging for money. I have a real bad problem with these people and I know I need to try harder. I have come to learn that the best way for me to not judge them (or anyone) is to think and make excuses for them..."Maybe they were disabled? Maybe they have a mental illness? Maybe they have had a bad run of luck and are only temporarily down?". Any excuse I can come up with besides the one that comes to mind in a flash..."Fukcin' bum. Get a job.".”

“MarkO sure talks big for a man that lives off his wife. LOL”

“"Fukcin' bum. Get a job."

I couldn't agree with ya more.

Hey StoveStomper, more kind words??
Get that burr removed from your ass........stat!!”

“Marko, the yo-yo halves are squeaking.”

“Yo-Yo??

Maybe the string between the halves/cheeks is strung a bit too tight.”

“Here's a guy who works for government(like I do) and bad-mouths people who he is supposed to serve.

So if you work for the Government...you have to be a socialist and think people are not responsible for their stupid decisions in life?????? Well MarkO my job is to investigate losses, and hold people responsible for BAD decisions. My bosses are the Taxpayer, not the leeches. And I appreciate your support (LOL)


This is the STANDARD BS Libbie reply, what it comes from is the desire to have a world of NO Consequences...sorry No Consequences society is one without Freedom. See freedom means the right to be successful and to fail (and hopefully learn from it). A world with out freedom is slavery I prefer not to marginalize someone's responsibility for their condition. For every little poor Leech you show me who had a TOUGH upbringing I can show you a person who suffered horribly under a life that would curl your little pinko toenails....and I can show you those who became successful.”

“Yeah sure, the usual load of XL crap.........socialist-socialist-socialist, blah, blah, blah............

Bow-wow!!

You obviously can't handle the job without the emotional blabber.
Get some counseling before you go postal, dude.
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“LOL...WHATSA MATTA O boy.....? The truth slapping you in the face hurts doesn't it?

Yeah yeah, no one is wrong they are all sweet people, the rapist murder is no different from you and I...yADDA YADDA YADDA.....Your crowd puts that out so as to keep the failures in life (of which you agree) from feeling BAD about life.

Scuks don't it...reality, responsibility, but then....we all know about you

(THE TIGGER VOICE AGAIN!!!!)
THE WONDERFUL THING ABOUT LIBBIES
ARE LIBBIES ARE WONDERFUL THINGS
THEIR BOTTOMS ARE COVERED IN DIAPERS
THEIR TOPS AIN'T GOT ANY BRAINS
THEY FEEL THEY FEEL THEY FEEL THEY FEEL THEY FEEEEEEL

CAUSE REALITY IS TOO MUCH OF A PAIN>”

“Rub-A-Dub-Dub

Don't drop the soap!!
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“LOL..Markey is lookling for a new boyfriend.....”

“XLax is one of the village people??”

“"So if you work for the Government...you have to be a socialist and think people are not responsible for their stupid decisions in life??????"

Well, I don't know about the second part of your claim, but your first part I do take issue with.

Many times on this board I have read how the unions are socialist. I have many times on this board that teachers unions are bad for children. I have read on this board the those who work in public jobs are lazy and need to be fired.

Most of these claims come from your side of the aisle, my friend. While you are certainly entitled to take a stand, you should be wary of the multiple vast and sweeping generalizations you make, because when you make them, you are including yourself.”

“While you are certainly entitled to take a stand, you should be wary of the multiple vast and sweeping generalizations you make, because when you make them, you are including yourself.

Apparently you didn't read your own words. Do you know what the word "generalization" means?”

“"Apparently you didn't read your own words. Do you know what the word "generalization" means".

lmao!”

“Moon, Laq hasn't gotten to that in the Remidial Remidiation of English course yet.

LOL...I am getting the logic...we had an employee here a few years ago whose logic for giving to United Way was."Without the Poor people we wouldn't have a job."

Jeeze thats like a fireman opposing Fire Prevention becuase it will cut down on the number of fires....So I must conclude that you enjoy people in pain and misery. You and the libbies must feel GOOD when you see someone suffering from their own stupidity.

WOW that is rather symbolic of the ego problem most libbies have. But I guess it may come from reaching a point in your little life and saying,"Dang I really have made no impact on the world, and I am too dang lazy to begin now...so I will ask the other guy to do it for me."”

“Several times lately his only comeback has been "LMOA". I guess it's easier for him than reading and comprehending. LMAO!

Most people know that a "generalization" (as he called it), refers to not everybody, but a lot of people in a group. Then he goes on to say that when you make generalizations (his word), you automatically include you in those comments, as if "generalization" doesn't mean what it means in reality, but instead means "everybody". He'd rather not face that he's called out on a logical error, so instead he "LMAO!".

LMAO!”

“"Moon, Laq hasn't gotten to that in the Remidial Remidiation of English course yet."


Perhaps one more ad homiem will solidify and fully support your claim.

"Several times lately his only comeback has been "LMOA". I guess it's easier for him than reading and comprehending. LMAO!"

lmao! It's a lot easier than having to type out the constant use of fallacy by you, troll. Again with the personal attacks, too.

"Most people know that a "generalization" (as he called it), refers to not everybody, but a lot of people in a group."

And just what do you call a generalization made about the word "generalization"? lmao!

Perhaps sulking in a corner would better suit you.

I guess Stove was right about something. If you don't engage a troll they get down right, awful and nasty.

LMOA!

ooops -- I mean


LMAO!”

“Now he's resorting to pointing out typo errors!


LMAO!!!!”

“Ah Q boy....don't you have finals to study for? Or are you in a college that allows you to Exempt exams....(LOL)...College..NOT the real world.”

“What sort of pain-killers are you takin', XLax?”

“HousehusbandO....don't use pain killers....how bout you? little of Mommas little helper to get you through the day?”

“Ha ha, I was just wondering if your craziness is natural or artificial!!

How many marriages have you wrecked......including your own?”

“I think we all just need to work harder at accepting each other's differences.”

“I will if you will.

>8^P”

“Liberals are so intolerant.”

“Oh I'm the first one who needs to stfu MarkO. I'm trying. Good gawd almighty how I'm trying. LOL!”

“I think you're all in love w/ one another.





Not that there's anything wrong with that.”

“message from StoveStomper being ignored”

“The point is, ladies and gentleman, that Greed -- for lack of a better word -- is GOOD. Greed is right. Greed works. Greed clarifies, cuts through, and captures the essence of the evolutionary spirit. Greed, in all of its forms -- greed for life, for money, for love, knowledge -- has marked the upward surge of mankind. And greed -- you mark my words -- will not only save TRAIL TALK, but that other malfunctioning corporation called the USA.
gotta love that movie
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“I believe "greed" is one of the "seven deadly sins".”

“I agree that greed is bad. Succes is not though. And in addition having money does not equal greed. To Quote a great man...

"Money is soul-energy, it represents the very energy of life itself; depending how you use it can either free you or enslave you" -- The Rebbe”

“Success is good”

“OH CR@P....looks like MarkO just deflated

http://www.beliefnet.com/story/204/story_20419_1.html

The book's basic findings are that conservatives who practice religion, live in traditional nuclear families and reject the notion that the government should engage in income redistribution are the most generous Americans, by any measure.

Conversely, secular liberals who believe fervently in government entitlement programs give far less to charity. They want everyone's tax dollars to support charitable causes and are reluctant to write checks to those causes, even when governments don't provide them with enough money. ”

“The report on OPEC members and their production cut backs were just released. All of them are cheating by cutting 1/4 to 1/2 what they had proposed. Greed in its' purist form.”

“"Deflated"??
I never was bloated.

You're about as spiritual as a wet fart, XLax.

Continue with your charity toward, uh, I mean trashing of humankind!

How's your nuclear family?
Have you gone nukular and split, lately?

Oh, and thanks for the honorable mention!”

“FOOT FAULT Point to XL...(LOL)

I don't trash HUMANKIND, I trash those who demand we pay their way...i.e. LEECHES on Society. Now you may be one of those who see the leeches as the pinnacle of society...but I on the other hand celebrate people who overcome obstacles to win.

My family stays together not because I have to suckle off my spouses teet so to speak, but rather because we have children to raise to be Contributing Citizens.”