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LOL..you know we can claim a lot of things about libbies, but when you have it in their own words and actions its so much more fun.

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=prnw.20090408.DC96524&show_article=1&catnum=3

BELLEVUE, Wash., April 8 /PRNewswire-USNewswire/ -- Democrat House Speaker Nancy Pelosi on April 7 acknowledged that gun registration is on her agenda, days after Attorney General Eric Holder told reporters in Mexico that the Second Amendment would not "stand in the way" of administration plans to crack down on alleged gun trafficking to Mexico. .............

"These comments belie administration promises and Democrat rhetoric that party leaders respect the rights of law-abiding Americans to own the firearm of their choice," Gottlieb said. "They imposed registration of semi-autos in Pelosi's California and it led to a ban, but it certainly didn't disarm criminals, like the convicted felon who killed four Oakland police officers last month. We know from Holder that the Obama administration wants to renew the nationwide ban on such firearms, but that won't prevent crime, either.
theXL400
8:06:41 AM
4/09/09

Libbies lie.
Stovie
8:17:21 AM
4/09/09

I guess Iran has about the same view you have or do they have a 2nd which allows their exports to Iraq?
salebored
8:18:33 AM
4/09/09

Of course they lied. And they lie to justify their lie, such as the bogus 90% of guns in Mexico come from the U.S. statistic.
Mutt
8:26:51 AM
4/09/09

LMAO. Stewart NAILS it. Vid at bottom of page.

http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Stewart_Fox_GOP_confuse_tyranny_with_0408.html
roseymonster
8:28:30 AM
4/09/09

"...the Second Amendment would not "stand in the way" of administration plans to crack down on alleged gun trafficking to Mexico..."

Are you saying that the Second Amendment protects gun-slingers in Mexico?
MarkO
8:30:23 AM
4/09/09

'such as the bogus 90% of guns in Mexico come from the U.S. statistic.'

Sure that isn't an estimate of Cartel guns?
salebored
8:43:22 AM
4/09/09

XL quotes a "news article" with a dateline of Bellevue, Washington. As soon as I read that, I knew it was a gawddamn press release from Alan Gottlieb (convicted felon) who runs the Second Amendment Foundation. In other words, SEND OUT SCARY PRESS RELEASE, INSTANT FUND RAISER!!!!!

Dance, puppets, dance!
kleetn
8:48:46 AM
4/09/09

cold busted ----
Tllt
8:58:39 AM
4/09/09

Remember, this is all brought to you by Subsidy Central of the US gov and it's form of american capitalism that keeps the drug war going by not legalizing the trillion $'s being pumped into the hands OUR FRIENDS.
salebored
9:06:42 AM
4/09/09

XL as a youth? Now I understand, lol, lol
wounded knee
10:19:53 AM
4/09/09

Show me how to lie
You're getting better all the time
And turning all against the one
Is an art that's hard to teach
Another clever word
Sets off an unsuspecting herd
And as you step back into line
A mob jumps to their feet

Now dance, fùcker, dance
Man, he never had a chance
And no one even knew
It was really only you

And now you steal away
Take him out today
Nice work you did
You're gonna go far, kid

With a thousand lies
And a good disguise
Hit 'em right between the eyes
Hit 'em right between the eyes
When you walk away
Nothing more to say
See the lightning in your eyes
See 'em running for their lives

Slowly out of line
And drifting closer in your sights
So play it out I'm wide awake
It's a scene about me
There's something in your way
And now someone is gonna pay
And if you can't get what you want
Well it's all because of me

Now dance, fùcker, dance
Man, I never had a chance
And no one even knew
It was really only you

And now you'll lead the way
Show the light of day
Nice work you did
You're gonna go far, kid
Trust, deceived!

With a thousand lies
And a good disguise
Hit 'em right between the eyes
Hit 'em right between the eyes
When you walk away
Nothing more to say
See the lightning in your eyes
See 'em running for their lives

Now dance, fùcker, dance
He never had a chance
And no one even knew
It was really only you

So dance, fùcker, dance
I never had a chance
It was really only you

With a thousand lies
And a good disguise
Hit 'em right between the eyes
Hit 'em right between the eyes
When you walk away
Nothing more to say
See the lightning in your eyes
See 'em running for their lives

Clever alibis
Lord of the flies
Hit 'em right between the eyes
Hit 'em right between the eyes
When you walk away
Nothing more to say
See the lightning in your eyes
See 'em running for their lives
kleetn
10:50:19 AM
4/09/09

Privacy may be a victim in cyberdefense plan
Obama's vow to protect civil liberties may be difficult to put into practice

WASHINGTON - A plan to create a new Pentagon cybercommand is raising significant privacy and diplomatic concerns, as the Obama administration moves ahead on efforts to protect the nation from cyberattack and to prepare for possible offensive operations against adversaries’ computer networks.

President Obama has said that the new cyberdefense strategy he unveiled last month will provide protections for personal privacy and civil liberties. But senior Pentagon and military officials say that Mr. Obama’s assurances may be challenging to guarantee in practice, particularly in trying to monitor the thousands of daily attacks on security systems in the United States that have set off a race to develop better cyberweapons.

Much of the new military command’s work is expected to be carried out by the National Security Agency, whose role in intercepting the domestic end of international calls and e-mail messages after the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks, under secret orders issued by the Bush administration, has already generated intense controversy.

There is simply no way, the officials say, to effectively conduct computer operations without entering networks inside the United States, where the military is prohibited from operating, or traveling electronic paths through countries that are not themselves American targets.

The cybersecurity effort, Mr. Obama said at the White House last month, “will not — I repeat, will not — include monitoring private sector networks or Internet traffic.”

But foreign adversaries often mount their attacks through computer network hubs inside the United States, and military officials and outside experts say that threat confronts the Pentagon and the administration with difficult questions.

'Quandary'
Military officials say there may be a need to intercept and examine some e-mail messages sent from other countries to guard against computer viruses or potential terrorist action. Advocates say the process could ultimately be accepted as the digital equivalent of customs inspections, in which passengers arriving from overseas consent to have their luggage opened for security, tax and health reasons.

“The government is in a quandary,” said Maren Leed, a defense expert at the bipartisan Center for Strategic and International Studies who was a Pentagon special assistant on cyberoperations from 2005 to 2008.

Ms. Leed said a broad debate was needed “about what constitutes an intrusion that violates privacy and, at the other extreme, what is an intrusion that may be acceptable in the face of an act of war.”

In a recent speech, Gen. James E. Cartwright, vice chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff and a chief architect of the new cyberstrategy, acknowledged that a major unresolved issue was how the military — which would include the National Security Agency, where much of the cyberwar expertise resides — could legally set up an early warning system.

Unlike a missile attack, which would show up on the Pentagon’s screens long before reaching American territory, a cyberattack may be visible only after it has been launched in the United States.

“How do you understand sovereignty in the cyberdomain?” General Cartwright asked. “It doesn’t tend to pay a lot of attention to geographic boundaries.”

For example, the daily attacks on the Pentagon’s own computer systems, or probes sent from Russia, China and Eastern Europe seeking chinks in the computer systems of corporations and financial institutions, are rarely seen before their effect is felt inside the United States.

New laws needed?
Some administration officials have begun to discuss whether laws or regulations must be changed to allow law enforcement, the military or intelligence agencies greater access to networks or Internet providers when significant evidence of a national security threat was found.

Ms. Leed said that while the Defense Department and related intelligence agencies were the only organizations that had the ability to protect against such cyberattacks, “they are not the best suited, from a civil liberties perspective, to take on that responsibility.”

Under plans being completed at the Pentagon, the new cybercommand will be run by a four-star general, much the way Gen. David H. Petraeus runs the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq from Central Command in Tampa, Fla. But the expectation is that whoever is in charge of the new command will also direct the National Security Agency, an effort to solve the turf war between the spy agency and the military over who is in charge of conducting offensive operations.

While the N.S.A.’s job is chiefly one of detection and monitoring, the agency also possesses what Michael D. McConnell, the former director of national intelligence, called “the critical skill set” to respond quickly to cyberattacks. Yet the Defense Department views cyberspace as its domain as well, a new battleground after land, sea, air and space.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/31338666/ns/politics-the_new_york_times/
***************************************

Translation: We're just gonna keep doing what Bush and Co. did but spin it so no one says anything.
last edited: 6/14/09 4:14:56 AM
Nigal
4:20:53 AM
6/14/09

American never did figure out that Viet Nam Phanom.
salebored
6:03:54 AM
6/14/09

But it's OK for The One. He's got a (D) behind his name.
Stovie
3:06:21 PM
6/14/09

Translation: We're just gonna keep doing what Bush and Co. did but spin it so no one says anything'. It worked for Cheney-Bush for over 7 years. The terrorist soon discovered no new attacks were necessary the way those two kept everything Fvcked up. As long as the leaders of this cabal
maintain the self destruction , terrorist attacks may brake the chain of the lucky run our enemies have enjoyed.
last edited: 6/15/09 9:38:05 PM
salebored
9:44:28 PM
6/15/09

LOL..this clown group is making the Patriot Act look like setting a national speed limit. WHERE are all the victims of the Bush years screaming about our rights being taken???
theXL400
5:41:37 AM
6/16/09

OH COOL...Drudge is reporting that ABC will turn programming over to the PrezBO....

COME ON LIBBIES lets hear some shock and awe (LOL)....
theXL400
6:06:07 AM
6/16/09

Well isn't that interesting. I wonder what the ABC/DNC response was.
Mutt
6:25:10 AM
6/16/09

Poor Obama has a hard time finding anything left that he can Fvck Up, they don't make um like that 'Decider' anymore.
salebored
6:32:26 AM
6/16/09

If one had a backpack sprayer Filled with car exhaust and yhe walked around spraying and refilling and spraying - he,d get arrested for pollution. Where's our freedumb, Mr. Two Story truck man?
last edited: 6/16/09 11:18:57 AM
salebored
11:24:14 AM
6/16/09

http://www.drudgereport.com/flashaot.htm

ROTFLMAO

On the night of June 24, the media and government become one, when ABC turns its programming over to President Obama and White House officials to push government run health care -- a move that has ignited an ethical firestorm!

Highlights on the agenda:

ABCNEWS anchor Charlie Gibson will deliver WORLD NEWS from the Blue Room of the White House.

The network plans a primetime special -- 'Prescription for America' -- originating from the East Room, exclude opposing voices on the debate.

The Director of Communications at the White House Office of Health Reform is Linda Douglass, who worked as a reporter for ABC News from 1998-2006.
theXL400
1:01:05 PM
6/16/09

Transparency according to liberals.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/06/16/white-house-blocks-access-visitor-list/

In a move that puts a cloud over transparency, White House officials are blocking access to the lists of the names of visitors to the White House.

The practice, carried over from the Bush administration, argues the public does not need to know who comes calling at the Executive Mansion, even for policy purposes.

"We are deeply disappointed," said Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington spokeswoman Anne Weismann, whose group is suing to get the records.

"The president, who has committed his administration to transparency and accountability, now takes the position of the Bush administration that the public is not entitled to know who visits the White House. These are not the actions of a pro-transparency administration," she sai
theXL400
1:12:06 PM
6/16/09

Why aren't they using Fox Noose? I'm shocked and Awed.
salebored
3:30:32 PM
6/16/09

So any Libbies wanna comment on this?


http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/Obama-gives-Interpol-free-hand-in-U_S_-8697583-80291137.html

No presidential statement or White House press briefing was held on it. In fact, all that can be found about it on the official White House Web site is the Dec. 17 announcement and one-paragraph text of President Obama's Executive Order 12425, with this innocuous headline: "Amending Executive Order 12425 Designating Interpol as a public international organization entitled to enjoy certain privileges, exemptions, and immunities."In fact, this new directive from Obama may be the most destructive blow ever struck against American constitutional civil liberties. No wonder the White House said as little as possible about it.

There are multiple reasons why this Obama decision is so deeply disturbing. First, the Obama order reverses a 1983 Reagan administration decision in order to grant Interpol, the International Criminal Police Organization, two key privileges. First, Obama has granted Interpol the ability to operate within the territorial limits of the United States without being subject to the same constitutional restraints that apply to all domestic law enforcement agencies such as the FBI. Second, Obama has exempted Interpol's domestic facilities -- including its office within the U.S. Department of Justice -- from search and seizure by U.S. authorities and from disclosure of archived documents in response to Freedom of Information Act requests filed by U.S. citizens. Think very carefully about what you just read: Obama has given an international law enforcement organization that is accountable to no other national authority the ability to operate as it pleases within our own borders, and he has freed it from the most basic measure of official transparency and accountability, the FOIA.
theXL400
12:29:43 PM
1/04/10

Comment?

Sure:

You're a paranoid idiot who will believe just about anything without bothering to do minimal fact checking.
Rev Truth V Wicked
6:27:31 PM
1/04/10

Please with the 'Boy Parts Bomber' and 'The Choe Bomber' both in our jails and you want us to worry about some other useless spy agency that's sneaking around trying to trip up all the other spy agencies, so any rag heads come in and steal all the biggest buds off of my farm?
salebored
7:35:18 PM
1/04/10

so, rev, are you then saying that it's not true or that the document nigal posted is being blown out of proportion? i just want to get past your personal attack on him and get to the substance of what you are saying.
Yogisan
7:37:30 PM
1/04/10

Vile only has personal attacks.
Stovie
7:58:38 PM
1/04/10

Inter Pol = Nazis Without Boarders? No. But at the same time I see no reason nor benefit in giving up sovereignty either.

But this article is but one view from one source. There is almost always more to it than what is posted on TT.
Nigal
2:41:20 AM
1/05/10

Waiting on Violink to post the facts.
bacpac
3:56:37 AM
1/05/10

I have the same goggle as anyone else.

Here is Obama's executive order, amending Reagan's Executive Order 12425 of June 16, 1983. Obama's order removed the exemptions for Section 2(c), Section 3, Section 4, Section 5, and Section 6 because Interpol has a US office that it did not have in 1983.

Here is a copy of the International Organizations Immunities Act. Please explain to me what is so sinister about Section 2(c), Section 3, Section 4, Section 5, and Section 6.


Now explain why no one has their panties in a wad about the following organizations enjoying protection under the act:
the International Pacific Halibut Commission and Inter-American Tropical Tuna Commission
the United International Bureaux for the Protection of Intellectual Property
the African Development Bank
the International Boundary and Water Commission, United States and Mexico,
the World Tourism Organization
the European Central Bank
the African Union
the Global Fund to Fight AIDS Tuberculosis and Malaria
Rev Truth V Wicked
5:11:25 AM
1/05/10

The International Pacific Halibut Commission and Inter-American Tropical Tuna Commission is coming to get you!!!

Run for your livers!!!
Rev Truth V Wicked
5:12:25 AM
1/05/10

I opened all of my tuna cans an didn't find one commie or socialist, did smell like a bunch of Nocialist had been in there though.
salebored
8:43:44 AM
1/05/10

Vile...are any of those agencies an "enforcement" agency? Don't think so.

Now every law enforcement agency is SUPPOSED (i.e. Constitutionally) to have a check and balance.

Interpol apparently does not have that.
theXL400
11:22:51 AM
1/05/10

So Reagan blundered by granting Interpol the authority, under Section 2(a)(iii) to institute legal proceedings? Legal immunity under 2(b)?


You're upset that Obama granted them tax exemptions?


Go through the act again and tell me what about Section 2(c), Section 3, Section 4, Section 5, or Section 6 threatens your liberty. (These are the sections covered by Obama's action.) http://www.ipu.org/finance-e/PL79-291.pdf
vioLin
12:01:55 PM
1/05/10

Was it the semicolon?
vioLin
12:04:12 PM
1/05/10

silly libbie, don`t you get it? If Obama did it, it must be bad. If it`s bad, it must be Obama`s fault. Go back to your hemp and free stalinist love
PepsisFormosa
12:04:51 PM
1/05/10

...and abortion - you forgot abortions.
vioLin
12:09:40 PM
1/05/10

go get your abortion and then try and take my hard earned money to give it to the lazy jobless homeless hippie commie bums for their doobies and croc shoes and socialist health plan vaccinations!
last edited: 1/05/10 12:12:17 PM
PepsisFormosa
12:11:52 PM
1/05/10

WARNING libbies before you watch this...go ahead and pull the curtains, close the door and get out the hand lotion....


The libbie answer to the problems in this country by none other than the McLaughlin Grope.

http://www.weaselzippers.net/blog/2010/01/mclaughlin-freedom-is-overrated.html
theXL400
12:30:13 PM
1/05/10

So XL.... I thought you wanted to discuss Obama's amending of Reagan's executive order.

How is this a threat to our liberties?

Cry wolf much?
vioLin
4:13:32 PM
1/05/10

Or just cry?
roseymonster
4:32:34 PM
1/05/10

Damn, it's refreshing to see Violin actual bring some facts to a discussion. The fact he cleaned Douchebag Dan's clock in the process just makes it funnier.
Nigal
5:13:43 PM
1/05/10

Our Rev. is way more rev'ed up than that Rev. Brit Hume over at Noshallist News.
salebored
7:31:42 PM
1/05/10

Through EO 12425, President Reagan extended to INTERPOL recognition as an "International Organization." In short, the privileges and immunities afforded foreign diplomats was extended to INTERPOL. Two sets of important privileges and immunities were withheld: Section 2 and the remaining sections cited (all of which deal with differing taxes).

And then comes December 17, 2009, and President Obama. The exemptions in EO 12425 were removed.

Section 2c of the United States International Organizations Immunities Act is the crucial piece.

Property and assets of international organizations, wherever located and by whomsoever held, shall be immune from search, unless such immunity be expressly waived, and from confiscation. The archives of international organizations shall be inviolable. (Emphasis added.)

Inviolable archives means INTERPOL records are beyond US citizens' Freedom of Information Act requests and from American legal or investigative discovery ("unless such immunity be expressly waived.")

Property and assets being immune from search and confiscation means precisely that. Wherever they may be in the United States. This could conceivably include human assets - Americans arrested on our soil by INTERPOL officers.


http://www.snooperreport.com/snooper-report/2009/12/24/obamas-secret-executive-order-amending-executive-order-12425.html
theXL400
5:39:19 AM
1/06/10

You know denying this as being serous is kinda like.....

Counterrorism chief John Brennan said on Fox News the other day that Umar was given a lawyer instead of a military interrogator because the government hopes for a plea agreement: a thwarted bomber working out with lawyers a deal that benefits both sides. "[H]e knows," said Brennan, "that there are certain things that are on the table, and if he wants to, in fact, engage with us in a productive manner, there are ways that he can do that."

Let us savor this statement. The man who lighted a Christmas fire with his underwear, hoping to cause an explosion that would bring down Northwest Airlines Flight 253 and everyone traveling on it, himself included -- our government's lawyers are going to wheel and deal with this susceptible gentleman? Assure him of a "productive" outcome if he cooperates? Dangle rewards and incentives for succumbing to arguments that he turn state's evidence?


http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2010/01/05/does_obama_get_the_terror_war_99771.html

The truth is you libbies JUST REALLY DON'T GET IT!
theXL400
5:57:54 AM
1/06/10

There is no such thing as an "Interpol Officer". These non-existant officers do not arrest American citizens. Get a clue.
vioLin
7:27:22 AM
1/06/10

so this is bullshart?

http://www.interpol.int/Public/Icpo/Recruitment/default.asp

Approximately 550 staff members from more than 80 different countries are employed at the INTERPOL General Secretariat, regional bureaus and the liaison office at the United Nations, working in any of the organizations four official languages: Arabic, English, French and Spanish. A third of these are either seconded or detached by their national law enforcement administrations in INTERPOLs 188 member countries; the remaining are international civil servants hired under contract directly by the organization. INTERPOL accepts applications from nationals of all member countries to ensure that the organization remains truly representative.


Values

With such a diverse group of men and women, the organization's values play a particularly important role in maintaining a harmonious and effective working environment. The INTERPOL General Secretariat defines its values through the following qualities:

Respect for human rights
Integrity
Commitment to quality
Availability
Team spirit
Value for money
Accountability


Fundamental Competencies

Competencies are the set of capabilities (incl. knowledge, skills, experience, values, behaviour and attitudes) required to perform effectively in a post. 6 Fundamental Competencies have been defined by INTERPOL and are applicable to 'all' staff regardless of their function/grade within INTERPOL. This aims at indicating to the applicants the type of basic competencies which are expected from them, in addition to the requirements specified in the vacancies.
theXL400
7:44:50 AM
1/06/10

So you are afraid of the civil servants?

When an officer is "seconded or detached by their national law enforcement administrations" they are still an employee of that agency. The FBI agents that are seconded to Interpol are still bound by US laws.
vioLin
10:10:33 AM
1/06/10

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