Thank God For The Bomb!

“Did they actually sink it. I saw that they fired on it? But like I said, I have no problem with this type of action, but we'd be fools to get involved with solving the underlying problem of why there are pirates and who is sponsoring them (if any one entity is). What a very muddled mess that would be.”

“The US should get smart and let Indian special force go in after Bin Laden, they don't fool around.”

“Yes it was sunk. Piracy enjoys widespread support in Somalia, because it's one of the few profitable industries there. However, the area is buzzing with islamofascists, making the area a theatre in the war on terrorism.”

“"Ah Somalia - the poster child for Libertarian thought""we finally agree on something Y2.”

Libertarians do believe in gov., but local not centralized.”

“Isn't that what somalia is. Localized government by the strongest local.”

“Unfortunately lots of good people in Somalia have no money, home, food or a decent job etc.....so when those pirates dock their captured ship there....the locals are able to sell them some food and fresh water and make abit of money out of it.

And yep, show on t.v that an Indian gunship (patrol ship (?))blew a pirate boat outta the water.....”

“I'm surprised the democrats haven't called an emergency meeting to try and get these pirates some kind of bailout.”

“obviuosly stanlee, the only law in Somalia is the law of what money buys and what guns enforce”

“so when those pirates dock their captured ship there....the locals are able to sell them some food and fresh water and make abit of money out of it. - stanlee

Precisely: http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jCRkrQxbXdCbH0TfHp3oGe_2W1KAD94IB2F00”

“I don't know why these ships don't hire a security firm to provide protection in dangerous waters. Well i do know why, at $30 mil a year spread out over many shipping firms paying pirate ransoms is probably cheaper than paying for security. Its just a cost of doing business.

And saying we should just blow those pirate boats out of the water, well they aren't pirate boats until they actually attack a ship. Until then they are just fishermen. If you don't live on the coast you might not realize how many boats of every shape and size are out on the water. Just look how hard it is to stop drug smuggling into our southern states and we have heavy land facilities to support it.

It really isn't our business to put a stop to it.”

“Wrong, it's everyone's business. The whole world has a vested interest in maintaining safe shipping lanes in that region.”

“It is everyone's business, but not simply the US's business. If there ever was a task for teh UN this is it. And maybe for a change some other country can take the lead. And maybe the shipping industry should pony up some operating capital. let some other country blow "poor innocent fishermen" to smithereens for a change. We have enough on our hands at the moment.

But if we do get involved i hope we let some of our small ship experts get involved in the planning. Not every Navy operation has to be centered around an aircraft carrier.
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“Mark, are you advocating the use of private security?

Hyway, the UN? That's rich. The US can afford to tackle this problem. What we increasingly can't afford to do is contain china. It seems like this would be a great opportunity for the US and India to gain experience working together on "real life" naval operations, so that future costs can be both minimized and shared in the future.”

“"Mark, are you advocating the use of private security?"
Mutt

No, I posted a link to a story I heard this morning.

But feel free to embellish and form opinions in my name as you are so like to do.”

“as you are so like to do

Are so wont to do. That's the expression. Read a book some time, it'll improve your vocabulary.

Anyway, I don't spin your words. That's why I asked you to dig another hole for yourself, as you are so wont to do.”

“Mutt, I have no problem sending a squadron or two of frigates over there to work with India. I like that idea a lot. But our efforts need to stop at the shoreline. we don't need another humanitarian effort to solve Somalia's underlying problem.”

“But the area is also a terrorist haven. Islamofascists have created a cesspool. It is in our interests to clean it up. Whether that requires US military operations remains to be seen.”

“Marko, Mutt specializes in "interperative" dialogue...”

“it might be in our interest, hell it is in our interest, but so are a lot of things. Right now its way down the list of where we need to be embroiled. When we start moving troops out of Iraq just move them to Somalia. But we don't need to go there until we are serious about cleaning that #&%!$hole up. We go full out or we shouldn't go. And we can't go full out right there right now.
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“I think we agree for the most part Hyway.”

“I think we are on the same boat. Lets hope its the one with the bigger guns. I think we should send the USS Cole to patrol those waters.”

“"Anyway, I don't spin your words."
Mutt

Why tell the truth when a lie will do just as well, eh Mutt?

I suppose he feels as though he's gotta keep it sharp, Rosey.”

“Jesus Christ. Y'all are some sure enough immature, snot-faced mudda fuggas. Take your pissing elsewhere. Get the fukk off my thread - punks...”

“Let the countries of registry handle their own ships. Cost of shipping has to reflect the real operating cost instead of a subsidy for protection being socialized. Why won't the bomb help? Capitalist MyAz.”

“I don't think liberia has a navy.”

“New Iberia does (if pee-rows count).”

“Let's say Truman poopoo'd the use of the bomb. So Operation Olympic went on as scheduled in '45. Lets say that the casualties were about 300,000 Allied, and 2,000,000 Japanese.

Then the typhoon strikes and upsets the applecart. Nevertheless, Operation Coronet gets underway in the spring of '46. On the killing field known as the Tokyo Plain, the Allies suffer 700,000 casualties, and the Japanese suffer 6,000,000.

Meanwhile, the USSR invades from Mongolia against little resistance. They reach Berlin-I-mean Tokyo as we do. Now what?


Fast forward a few years. The Cold War is picking up steam, and the USSR now has the bomb. Not only do they have it, but it is immensely larger than the bombs of '45 - as are ours.

They're more powerful, and as yet "untested". But they gotta be tested - right? Isn't that one of the benefits of using the original, relatively small bombs against Japan? Did the world not see first hand the destructiveness of the atomic bomb? And has one - much much more powerful - been used since?

I repeat - thank God for the bomb (of '45).”

“Quite a few years back.....in the mid 80's, China claimed one of their nuclear plants malfunctioned and leaked radiation into the air. The wind carried the radiation over the Pacific. Parts of Chinatown in Vancouver, British Columbia were ruined by rioters.

At that time one of our employees had a cousin who was in the Chinese army and said a small atomic/nuclear device was used to stop the Russian tanks from crossing into Mongolia. There had and still have skirmishs along the "Black Dragon Pond/Swamp". There was absolutely no time to call the Chinese sentries/army back....so they also were sacrificed. Russians and their tanks were destroyed and the border clashes stopped for awhile.

Did Mongolia want the Russians help?....Or did China help the Mongols?....

I'm sure the ones in charge or monitor these things know the truth.”

“No doubt that tactical nukes will be used against the massive N. Korean army when they make their move.”

“Throw them a few cows ... that'll keep 'em busy for a while.”

“I'm thinking one cow would keep you busy for a while.”

“she did. Tell your mom I said thanks.
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“ooooooooooohhh burn!”

“God does not make bombs.”

“who would jesus bomb?”

“Do you know what balm is?
Have you ever seen a balm?


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“she did. Tell your mom I said thanks.


She said your welcome - but she wants her cow back.”

“LMAO!!!”

“"I got no cow". - Bart Simpson

Btw....some cultures/army used goats to march into minefields to detonate them. So any cows given to the N. Koreans will be greatly appreciated in their use in the DMZ. heh heh ....ground beef comes to mind.”

“While she was here on her visit, I told Eurohike that we are as much at war as we have ever been. Not true. I have fished Tennessee Reef in the FL keys without concern for Uboats or Jap subs. That would have not been the case in '41-45.

No household went unaffected during WWII. Everyone was involved - through service, employment, rationing, etc. Every aspect of everyday life revolved around our call to save the civilized world. We will never know the mindset of midAmerica of those days. Ending the war and getting our boys home was priority number one.

Thank God for the bomb.”

“Yall shuld see the bumbs me and Gissmaeioux dropt in the yard juts now! BOL!”

“You're a sick fvck.”

“That explains this nagging cough. Thanks, doc! :)”

“bombing hiroshima/nagasaki may have been a necessary evil, but it is nothing to be thankful for”

“I have been told that the mindset during that period was all over the map much like today.
There was a lot of Monday Morning Quarterbacking and blaming the common soldier for any lack of success.

Plenty of people resented rationing and cheated whenever possible.
Sacrifice was forced upon America as it was in England or any other country that was under the stress of war.

My parents were in their early twenties when that world-wide disaster ended. Like so many others they just wanted to care for the injured, bury the dead, pick up the pieces, get on with their lives and forget about the whole mess.
Many who were actually touched by tragedy then were saddled with the lasting effects of what was for them a real live horror show.”