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I am just curious...why is everyone so mean to each other on here like in the last year and a half or so?

The only mature and half way decent thread is the GET UP thread.

I don't see Snow Nymph post anymore and I enjoyed her adventures...I don't see Buck post here anymore and I enjoyed his pictures and stories...I know he could debate like everyone else, and state his strong opinions but he was ALWAYS nice about it and didn't fling hatred all over to anyone...Crazy Mike is gone now too. I am sure there are a lot more who I miss...just can't think of them all right now. I just see a few people who I have met, or who I would like to meet, at odds with each other and it makes me wonder WTH is the big deal about being so different?

I will say this...I could never hate anyone enough to leave them stranded on a mountain top...stranger or friend. If the Storm came our way out there, I would try to help all in need no matter who or what you are, where you do or didn't come from. In any storm, I would help just as I would need. I read a lot of these threads and feel very alone in my character. I also think that it really would take a crisis, unfortunately, to bring the best of all of us out with the trolls sitting aside, rotting in their very own soil of which nothing but pity remains.

Merry almost Christmas.
wolfeyes
2:04:34 AM
12/20/06

{{{ Wolfeyes }}} It is way too easy to forget that there is a real, live breathing and feeling human being on the other side of a keyboard and monitor. What happens on the cold and impersonal Net is not a true indication of what would happen IRL. People who battle on the Net often develop warm and enduring friendships when life throws them together.

The cure for your hurting heart is this: attend one of the campouts, rucks, gatherings or festivals mentioned here and see for yourself how much differently the sparring partners behave when they are breathing the same air.
Frolicking Dino
4:06:25 AM
12/20/06

I post here and I'm a nice guy.

If your heart and eyes are looking at what it wants to see and feel, then you'll most likely find it. There is a little id in all of us and alot of good in us as well.........................also I believe in balance in the world, gotta have so bad with the good, keeps us on our toes and we don't take anything for granted.

ONLY A GOD can be good all the time.
the Fridge
4:06:26 AM
12/20/06

People are mean on the internet because of a lack of socialization and becasue of an immature development. The impersonal method of internet communication accentuates the underlying meaness that four million years of evolution bred into human beings as an adaptive mechanism that was useful in survival of ones genes.
prosecutor
5:41:08 AM
12/20/06

Perhaps if you don't like meanness you shouldn't post something that categorizes so many people as being mean and hateful?

If people aren't calling you names, and you suddenly call them names like "mean" and "hateful", unprovoked, then that's where the meanness and fighting begins.

Some people on here are quick to point the finger, ignoring the consequences of how they word things, which leads to retaliation. It's that denial that begins the fighting.

Anyways, looking at the threads going back to 1999, the meanness didn't start or get worse a year and a half ago.
moonglo
5:42:15 AM
12/20/06

You are what you are, those of you that are mean on here, are mean spirited people. And then those of you who act nice or halfway decent when you are away from here know the difference and are putting up a front. The reason why people leave this site is because they are tired of the meanness.
BrokenTail
6:13:57 AM
12/20/06

I am so sorry about your tail:)
Nimblefoot
6:16:35 AM
12/20/06

Hey Fridge, you ole meanie!

Nimblefoot, you even older meanie!

Hey Wolfeyes, you and your little dog!
MarkO
6:49:20 AM
12/20/06

Well said Wolfie!
Sassafras
7:02:47 AM
12/20/06

Good question.

Merry Christmas!
toejam
7:06:46 AM
12/20/06

WOW...I always thought of this as sort of a big Costume party. I know the hike I went on the people were pretty nice. I have told many people I don't take this site seriously. Heck I havce enough problems to deal with without having this to add to the problems.

markO...isn't it "your little dog TOTO too."?
XL400236
7:11:38 AM
12/20/06

Yeah, I forgot to throw in the maniacal laughter.

Maybe that's what I need is a dog and I wouldn't be such a meanie.
MarkO
7:13:23 AM
12/20/06

I've noticed (I can think of 3 people off the top of my head) that the people who complain about the meanness are the first ones when they get to a fuego thread to go on the offensive and are the loudest about it. One of them is probabably the person who hikes more than anybody on this board and I really wanted to meet him. He got on fuego and immediately went nuts, even though he complains about that temperment (sp?).

That said, the best solution is to keep fuego unchecked ALL THE TIME if you don't like it, because some people just aren't up to that type of discussion. Nothing wrong with that.
moonglo
7:18:50 AM
12/20/06

Some people on here are quick to point the finger, ignoring the consequences of how they word things, which leads to retaliation. It's that denial that begins the fighting

I will take full responsibility of pointing my finger to "everyone" on here. Therefore, I will not ignore the consequences of how I worded my post. If "everyone" would like to retaliate and start being mean and hateful towards me for posting my question, then so be it.
wolfeyes
7:23:44 AM
12/20/06

Some people are too thin skinned and need to get a life.
toejam
7:29:46 AM
12/20/06

I stopped posting because everybody said I was "crazy".

Now why would they think that ?????
CrazyPace
7:34:54 AM
12/20/06

toejam - You wrote "good question" when somebody complained about the name calling, then when somebody else complained about that namecalling, you wrote “Some people are too thin skinned and need to get a life.”, and replied with meanness and hateful response.

Ironic.

Which brings up another point. The double standards on here also contribute to the meanness and hatefulness. toejam illustrated that perfectly.
moonglo
7:35:17 AM
12/20/06

I am thin skinned. Where can I get my share of beating and insult?
euro hike
7:35:51 AM
12/20/06

I gotchyer back, baby!


last edited: 12/20/06 7:38:30 AM
MarkO
7:37:04 AM
12/20/06

Well...are you "crazy" in the Steve Martin happy sorta crazy and fun style

Or is it the maniacle laughter, chainsaw starting at 2 in the morning in the middle of nowhere crazy?
XL400236
7:39:00 AM
12/20/06

Moonglo, you gotta be king of over-reaction and thermo-nuclear escallation, a.k.a. trolling.
toejam
7:39:27 AM
12/20/06

lol...nah thanks. Most kind from you to offer though, old fellow.
euro hike
7:41:02 AM
12/20/06

Gotta ask the rest of the wacko's that I hike with on here!
CrazyPace
7:42:41 AM
12/20/06

toejam - How specifically am I over-reacting??? What I've said is 100% true. No trolling. You're name calling and telling people to get a life and you think I'm trolling? LOL!
moonglo
7:42:58 AM
12/20/06

That's more of a mild rebuke, moonglo.

You are over-reacting........and over-acting.
MarkO
7:46:38 AM
12/20/06

You're right toejam. I reread what I wrote.

I was overreacting when I told people they shouldn't name call and should leave fuego unchecked. I was out of my mind for a moment. My bad. I must have forgot my pill this morning.





*rolls eyes*

last edited: 12/20/06 7:47:49 AM
moonglo
7:47:01 AM
12/20/06

this thread should have ended after prosecutors post. his was the perfect answer
crash bang
7:48:22 AM
12/20/06

Saying something silly and getting moonglo to over-react, a.k.a. trolling
toejam
7:50:29 AM
12/20/06

Could you rephrase that into a sentence?
moonglo
7:52:32 AM
12/20/06

Has everyone forgotten the about the ignore button?
dhutch1
7:54:37 AM
12/20/06

Careful dhutch. I suggested unchecking fuego and got labeled as a troll. Your suggestion should bring the same response. Let's wait and see if that happens ...
moonglo
7:55:49 AM
12/20/06

s-rge, i dont think he meant you were over-reacting here. just in general

of course, now, youre over-reacting
crash bang
7:58:38 AM
12/20/06

Crash Bang.....................so mean
MarkO
8:00:46 AM
12/20/06

Maybe he should bring it up at the time if he thinks so instead of throwing around unsubstantiated claims after the fact. Ironically, it's that type of finger pointing that leads to the things that wolfeyes brought up - but nobody chooses to point that out ... except me of course. But then, I'm over-reacting for doing so ...

The double standards on here are VERY funny!
moonglo
8:00:55 AM
12/20/06

youre not over-reacting for doing so. youre over-reacting because youre belaboring the point. its not the fact that you say something, but the way you say it. theres a half a dozen ppl in this conversation, but almost every other post is you
crash bang
8:03:39 AM
12/20/06

Its definitely hard to keep one's tounge in check on here at times, but I hope that everyone almost everyone here feels I'm pleasant enough in discussions. I certainly make it a point not to engage in name-calling. I can name several who have specifically complimented me in the past, so I must not be doing too bad. If not, send me coal. I'll burn it in my coal-capable woodstove.

I unchecked fuego a while ago and don't miss the name-calling and lack of intelligent debating. It seems to be more "you're stupid" "no, you're stupid" than useful debate of topics.
techntrek
8:04:27 AM
12/20/06

marko, stop calling me names!

troll
crash bang
8:04:44 AM
12/20/06

wolfeyes misses snow nymph...
bearmagnet
8:05:08 AM
12/20/06

Crash, that's mean of you to point that out.
"....but almost every other post is you..."
That is......that is

Bearmagnet, that's mean of you to point that out........well, more wicked than mean.
last edited: 12/20/06 8:08:37 AM
MarkO
8:05:25 AM
12/20/06

techntrek is a bicycle seat sniffer
crash bang
8:06:04 AM
12/20/06

WOW...Crash you don't know how many times I wish we could have ended the testimony after the prosecutor had his say (LOL).
XL400236
8:09:07 AM
12/20/06

Nice observation, wolfeyes.
chili
8:09:32 AM
12/20/06

crash - so it's quantity, not quality?

My multiple posts are only there because people either addressed me directly, or something I said, and I'm responding - like this post in response to you directly addressing me.

You're finger pointing at me on a post about civil discussion. All I'm doing is saying the ones who finger point are often the ones doing it themselves. (thanks for proving my point by the way)

The point I'm "belaboring" is in line with getting it to stop. You're belaboring pointing the finger at me, which instigates it further.

Again, double standards.
last edited: 12/20/06 8:11:54 AM
moonglo
8:09:47 AM
12/20/06

I LUV Wolfie.
StoveStomper
8:10:29 AM
12/20/06

99% of all posts here are of no particular importance to me so its real easy for me to stick people who annoy me on my ignore list and leave them there for years - I don't have to read their "stuff" and I don't miss their little contributions

perhaps this idea will work for you too wolfeyes - ignore the mean people
Hog On Ice
8:11:47 AM
12/20/06

HOG ON ICE! - That's what I said! Watch out ... people will come after you like they did me and dhutch!!!

Oh wait, nobody responded to dhutch even though she gave a similar suggestion...

I'm sure it will happen soon though ...
moonglo
8:13:02 AM
12/20/06

I hate to be mean, tech (well, not really) but what the hell is a "tounge"?

And is this Fuego yet?
bearmagnet
8:13:57 AM
12/20/06

Crikey! You guys act like a bunch of starved Rottweilers tearing the wolf to pieces.
euro hike
8:17:15 AM
12/20/06

I don't know about that, but this is Tonga.


MarkO
8:18:20 AM
12/20/06

s-rge, i only get into it with you every once in awhile

you get into it with somebody more or less every single day that you spend any significant time here. often you have multiple partners

i have seen you in the middle of more fights than everyone one else on the board put together

yes, alot of times others instigated them, including the time that got "sarge" banned permanently

but mostly, its you

lets say you have 50 fights with 50 different ppl (probably a typical week for you). even if you start only half those fights, you started 25 fights, while everyone else only started 1 fight

THATS the problem

me, im just avoiding work. im also deluded in thinking i can talk any sense into you. one of your greatest weaknesses is that you dont get the point other people are trying to make to you
crash bang
8:19:22 AM
12/20/06

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