Houghing up Hough

“I'll look into coming up either thursday night or leave really early on Friday morning.”

“See ya there!”

“LT - looking at driving up very late Thursday night to get to the parking area around 10AM Friday morning. How does that sound to everyone? Or we could show up later since Friday we are only establishing basecamp.

OR... we could get in early Friday morning and go climb Macomb and the Slide, and Saturday go for Hough?

soo many mountains, soo little time”

“Where are you going to sleep Thursday night? Meeting at the trailhead around 10 would work for me. That really wouldn't leave enough time to get wet up and Climb Macomb, especially if we are staying Lillian brook.

It is about a 4 hour drive for me so if you want to get there earlier I could leave earlier.”

“I guess I'll see everyone at camp Friday night when I hike in, in the dark.


Lt – I don’t need the pack. I’ve got that problem taken care of.”

“Cool Zach, I guess the sled aren't going to be used for this trip. I'm thinking that I might use my bigger pack to bring in a few luxury items. We will leave a light on for you.”

“Cool, just like a Motel 6.”

“The password will be Afghanistan Banana Stand.”

“MArko, you bringing your Kiva if you are the password should be "sitting bull rides alone"”

“OK

Yes, that is my current favorite winter tent.

Alright, Gremlin..............where ever you are!”

“looks like I'll be riding up with Pennsy. We're going to stop in at the Mountaineer in Keene Valley on Friday to have them look at my crampons.”

“That's a hell of a long way to go from Pennsylvania to get your crampons looked at!”

“that's where I bought em”

“i want aluminum instep crampons. camp 6 used to make them. anyone know where i can get some or has some they will sell me?”

“I have some insteps that I have never used.....must bring.”

“Marko you might want full on Crampons if you have them. Insteps don't work the best on a steep hill.”

““i want aluminum instep crampons. camp 6 used to make them. anyone know where i can get some or has some they will sell me?”


Campmor on 17 in Paramus NJ has them. $29.00”

“For the hiking I do in the northeast, I personally wouldn’t go with aluminum. The time of year that I use insteps (fall and spring) there is mixed conditions. The rock would wear out aluminum points fast.”

“I'm pretty sure the ones at campmor are stamped steel. I bought a pair.”

“Only steel for me - and with front points.

I was looking at noon on Friday at the Elk Lake parking area.”

“Yah - front points are good to poke the bonehead in front of you to get moving!
yeah, I know, poles work good too, but I think front points hurt more!”

“

You boys have fun!”

“Hello, LMG!

Gremlin, by noon on Friday you might find some sleepy boneheads there.”

“Be sure to leave an open spot in the leanto for me. Hopefully I can get done with the site visits early.”

“As I said.....................Afghanistan Banana Stand.

Watch out for trip wires.”

“I thought the password was, "pied de chameau."”

“Yeah, well maybe they've got some camels in Afghanistan.

They most certainly have some hairy women.”

“Cool pic LMG! I think that t'shirt and beanie should be required gear for all the boneheads.

Speaking of pics, here's my pics from our trip here on New Year's weekend.”

“You've hit on something, Pennsy!!

We need to design a BoneHead T-shirt.”

“Good idea. I think this should be the design on the shirt.

http://www.jamieofthenorth.com/Bruce%20Dork.htm”

“Ok I did some research. The Lillian Brook herd path splits about halfway up. One branch goes to the Macomb/S. Dix col and the other goes to the Hough/Pough col where there is a small illegal campsite. Bellow is a list of mileages:
2-miles – Winter Gate to Summer Trailhead
2.3-miles – Summer Trailhead to Slide Brook Lean-to
1.3-miles – Summer Trailhead to Lillian Brook Lean-to
1.8-miles +/- - Lillian Brook Lean-to to Hough/Pough col 1560’ gain
0.4-mile +/- - Hough/Pough col to Hough summit 500’ gain
1.9-miles +/- - Lillian Brook Lean-to to Macomb/S. Dix col 1450’ gain
0.5-mile +/- - Macomb/S. Dix col to Macomb summit 590’ gain
0.3-mile +/- - Macomb/S. Dix col to S. Dix summit 280’ gain
0.5-mile +/- - S. Dix summit to Hough/Pough col 110’ gain 260’ loss
2.8-miles - Lillian Brook Lean-to to Beck Horn 2660’ gain
1.0mile +/- - Beck Horn to Hough summit 370’ gain 810’ loss

My thought is to hike in to the Lillian Brook Lean-to. From there go up the Lillian Brook herd path to the Hough/Pough col and then up Hough. From there we could go back the way we came, go up Dix, or head over and climb S. Dix and/or Macomb.

What does everyone else think?”
lumberzac
7:28:14 PM
1/02/07

Going back to zac's post, I would like to hike in to Lillian Brook leanto and attempt Hough peak from there. I was also considering getting into the leanto area on Friday morning earlier than you guys and breaking the Lillian brook trail up to one of the two cols if need be. The Lillian Brook trail concerns me, it was not a very direct path through the blowdown and I'm thinking we could save alot of time if I get it broken the day before the summit attempt. Yes, I am serious about getting that damn Ho this go around! I know some of you guys want to climb Macomb as well, perhaps we can save Macomb for Sunday morning and do the Slide Brook trail and the West face slide on Sunday? I just don't know if we will have time to back track and get Macomb on Saturday if we are heading for Hough. The last trip we started at 7:45AM from Slide Brook leanto and with a trail already partially broken for us we ran out of time at 3PM and 400 feet short of Hough's Peak. To go up and over Macomb took alot of time that I'd rather be using trying to get to the top of Hough.

What do you guys think?
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“That sounds good to me. One thing I heard last night and I’m not 100% sure it is accurate is that the Lillian Brook lean-to is one of the original State lean-tos from the 1930’s. IE it’s small (sleep 4 to 5) and has a dirt floor.”

“We didn't see the leanto when we came down the Lillian Brook trail, it was dark and we were moving fast.

There is only a 1 mile difference between the leantos? Sorry, I don't have my maps with me, but if felt like alot more than a mile when we walkd it back to Slide Brook.”

“I googled Lillianbrook lean-to and found a site where they were discussing plans to tear it down and build a new one.


June 20 thru June 22, Dix-Elk Lake Lean-to Project. The existing lean-to at Lillian Brook needs to be replaced. We will take down the old and construct a new lean-to in the vicinity. We will begin this project on Friday, but if you can't arrive until Saturday, that is OK. Meet us at Lillian Brook. This project is contingent upon site approval and the transportation of the lean-to package to the site. The meeting place on Friday is at trailhead parking on Elk Lake Road (off Blue Ridge Road, Northway exit 29) at 7:50 a.m

http://www.adk46r.org/current.html#jun20[url]

This was in the plans for 1996 I guess we will find out if they did it.

I am bringing my Kiva which should hold 4 people if anyone wants to share. I got to try out the new toy.”

“I'm with Pope Bobo.

Kitchen Gnome”

“Bobo what time are you thinking on Friday? I'm up for meeting you at what ever time.
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“I got a feeling this time's da charm!

I got a feeling
a feeling deep in side
whoa yeah... oh yeah
I got a feeling
A feeling I can't hide
oh no -- whoa no
oh no
yeaaaaaah! yeah!
I got a feeling!”

“I've got a feeling that keeps me on my toes Oh yeah, Oh yeah! I've got a feeling, I think that everybody knows, thx ENS!!!
bobo runs upstairs to get his "Let It Be" CD!

Lt - I'd like to get to the parking lot sometime around 8-10AM. MarkO is meeting me at my place and we're picking up the Green Monkee on the way. We'll get a final time figured out by tommorrow. I feel the plans starting to gel, mooohaahaahahahahaha!!!!”

“everybody pulled their socks up!
everybody put their foot down.”

“"........it’s small (sleep 4 to 5) and has a dirt floor."

Why...........I won't stand for no dirt floor!!

That tears it, I'm bringing the Kiva!!”

“The problem with a dirt floor is if things get warm enough to rain, dirt floor = mud floor.

I'm almost all packed. I'll probably repack things tonight.”

“That's just great, a mud hut!

I gotta do a final pack-down and check my list and then its off to Bobo Land.”

“See Ya up there, I have to work today and then I am packing and going to sleep for a few hours. I'll probably leave around 3-4am”

“I have a package in from Campmor at the Chateaugay, NY post office. I'll be dropping in there at 9.0 am and so will probably arrive between 11.30 and noon. This is because if I pick it up on Friday and spend 48+ hours in the US I won't have to pay duty.”

“Chateaugay is a happy house, non?”

“Nope.

It actually translates as Castleford (a city in West Yorkshire, UK) whis is a fort to guard a river crossing. It's gué in modern French.

'GU' was used in late Latin to replace the 'V' which had acquired the pronunciation we to-day use due to Germanic influence/conquest. Germanic peoples (except the English speaking ones) had no 'W' sound and pronounce everything 'V'. Latin had no 'V' and when the pronunciation began to shift they substituted 'GU'. Via('WEEyah') became 'via' as we pronounce it and the old via eventually morphed into guay and now gué.

Thus 'guay is the same word as our 'way', just as guerre is the same as 'war'. The state of Delaware is named from the de la Guerre family, BTW.
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“It's gonna be great to get away from the bull#&%!$ that surrounds me here. This week really sucked. I may be keeping everyone's extra food and staying up in the High Peaks for a good, long while!”

“Any news?”

“I'm going to let Bobo tell the story, but EarthNsky and myself made it up and over Macomb successfully.”