Made in China?

“A young colleague (and former student) of mine mentionned yesterday that she wanted to buy snowshoes. I recommended Faber which offer great quality and lower prices than the big US names. They have the added advantage of being made here. Actually Faber and GV snowshoes are both entirely made on the same Indian reservation near Quebec City.

I went on the MEC site to look at snowshoes with her and was surprised to see that all the Atlas snowshoes are made in China.

I'm not sure how I feel about this. I love China and realise that many products of good quality and reasonable prices are available thanks to off-shore production.

But ...

I don't think it's acceptable to have high end companies make things over there and charge the same high end prices as goods made here (and down there).

What do you guys think?

Doug”

“Faber and GV snowshoes both rock, BTW.

www.fabersnowshoes.com

www.gvsnowshoes.com

Doug”

“I buy as close to 'local' as possible, whenever possible.”

“Cabela's Alaskan Guide Snowshoes are made in Canada.”

“My new pair of Tubbs were made in China. I didn't know till I opened the box. My expectations for quality dropped at that moment.”

“They can even make the weather.

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/la-fg-rain31jan31,0,39372.story”

“They just don't want the folks attending to be disintegrated by the acid rain.”

“Hell their donations pretty much MADE the Clinton Machine...and yet no one really worries about that....”

“Maybe they should let it rain, to absorb some of the smog in the air!!!

I read somewhere that some countries' athletes don't want to train in China when they will be acclimatizing for the olympics.”

“this is highly disturbing...”

“http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/la-fi-chinainvest5-2008may05,0,2206623.story?page=1

Well now, how the wheel turns...”

“After the contaminated toys, toothpaste and heparin, there's more lead coming from China, only now it may be implanted in your mouth.

"When Faye Lewis became concerned about her painful new bridgework, she had it checked out and received some disturbing news: Her bridge was manufactured in China and tainted with lead.

Bridges, crowns and fillings imported from China may be tainted with lead.
More dentists are using crowns and bridges made in China. According to the United State Customs Office, the number of dental products coming into the United States from China has doubled in the last year.


An investigation by ABC News affiliate WJLA-TV found that at least some of those dental products contain lead.


Lewis initially went to have a chipped tooth fixed, but her resulting bridgework fit so poorly and painfully, she couldn't chew her food. The 73-year-old told her dentist what she wanted to do was chew out whoever built her bridge.

According to Lewis, her dentist replied, "That will be a little hard to do because they're in China.

As a grandmother, Lewis was aware of news reports about the recall of lead-tainted toys from China. Lead accumulates in the body and can affect kidneys, eyes, heart, the immune system and cognitive function.

So Lewis sent her dental work to a lab for testing. The results showed that it did indeed contain lead.

Ricki Braswell, co-executive director of the National Association of Dental Laboratories, said there is little regulation when it comes to dental work.

"Because you have an unregulated industry, you really don't have standards," Braswell said. "You don't have standards in the domestic industry. You certainly don't have standards in the foreign industry."

Don't Ask, Don't Tell

Tony Prestipino, who owns Artifex dental lab in Virginia, ordered 10 crowns from three dental labs in China on behalf of WJLA.

Crowns from China sell for $30 to $50 to dentists, who then can charge up to $1,200 to patients who don't know the crowns were made in China.

A Chinese lab representative told Prestipino over the phone, "We follow this military 'don't ask, don't tell' policy."”

“i am examing everything i buy now. i just bought a sewing machine. i'll be watching where my fabrics come from too.

china is not to be trusted for any item you might purchase.”

“The Americans that peddle those dangerous and inferior goods are in the same boat as those Chinese that manufacture them.”

“Chinese made bicycles?”

“Oh my God! Why, if it was in her bridgework, it had to be an ASTRONOMICAL amount! Probably enough to KILL 10-20 CHILDREN!”

“no just boats...”

“It sounds like the Chinese are where the U.S. was about 100+/- years ago.................product safety was a joke.

Snake Oil ruled!!”

“Probably more like 150 years ago. They are much closer - economically - to pure unregulated capitalism than we are.

I think if they won't regulate what they manufacture and export, we've got to regulate what they send here.”

“"I think if they won't regulate what they manufacture and export, we've got to regulate what they send here."

Yes, indeed.

Contracting with Chinese factories is a way for American companies to beat labor and safety standards.

It seems that a return to pure unregulated capitalism is what Nixon was after in 1972.........after all.”

“Nixon was behind lead tainted dental work? There's a conspiracy theory I haven't heard before.”

“That's why ,when I chew peanuts, I have delusions that Sarge and XL are standing behind me singing 'Happy Trails'.”

“Cute, Rev!

After 1972 U.S. manufacturing started moving to China.......fact, not theory.

Do you think they went for the climate?
Actually, they went for the business climate...........slave labor, no safety or labor standards...........a kind of colonialism.
Things have evolved some, but back in those days labor organizers were simply murdered in China........like 100 years ago in the good old U.S.

Since the '70s labor in the U.S. has lost considerable political power.

They didn't call him Tricky Dicky for nothing.

As long as the companies make money for share holders all other concerns are irrelevant.”

“China has an EPA(Everyone Pollutes Always).

Edit; Except event days. Had to shoulder the stockholders some of the time.
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“Marko...

I won't argue with the exporting of American jobs beginning in 1972 but I don't see tricky dick involved in that to any great degree.I don't recall for sure but I don't think it was Nixon who granted "most favored nation" status to China. I could be wrong about that, but I don't think so.

edit: Truman suspended that status after the invasion of Tibet. It was President Bush who renewed that statusthe day of the Tienimen Square massacre. Tricky Dick was not involved in the massive growth of jobs to China.
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“"Tricky Dick was not involved in the massive growth of jobs to China."

Correct......he was out of a job August 9, 1974.”

“He was not a crook...”