Trapp Hills, Michigan UP, 2007

“Ok, I see where the difference in our mileage totals are coming from?

You have the mileage figured from the Victoria Rd. trail crossing, which is southwest from the Town-site parking area.

I wasn't aware that there was any other parking in this area, but I see where it looks the trail goes by a boat launch and maybe there is also parking for the Victoria Loop trail further west from the Town-site?

Otherwise, if you do start at the Old Victoria town-site and end at M-64, not Old-64, then according to Doug Welker, its 33.5 miles total.
last edited: 5/21/07 9:38:23 AM”

“That's good to know. Thanks for looking into this. I look forward to meeting you in person, even for a segment of this trip.”

“I may or may not go up earlier, possibly either Oct. 5th or the 12th. Either of these 2 weekends should be at peak color.

Otherwise, I will join this hike, if I don't go with the earlier dates?

Also be advised that there are limited camp-sites up on the bluff's and overlooks, so you will probably need to split into 2 or more groups and spread the camp-sites apart a bit?”

“Yeah, prosecutor mentioned this. If it's a typical TT trip then 1/2 that sign up will show up. Haha! Hope you can make it. It would be good to finally meet you.”

“Any reason that you're making the trip for the later part of October?

I'd like to meet and hike with many of you as well.

If I went on your trip, I would need someone to meet me at Norwich Rd., then drive me over to Old Victoria, where you plan to start, correct?

But, I see where you plan to do your car shuttle and start hiking on Friday as well. I wouldn't probably be up there, until 4:00-5:00pm Friday night, So, I might have to nix this trip then?

I would only hike 7-10 miles on Sat. camp Sat. night, then finish at Norwich Rd.
last edited: 5/21/07 6:06:13 PM”

“It's your call really. I don't know how far it is from Norwich Rd to Old Victoria. I am sure we can work something out. Let us know what you think will work and we'll see what we can do.

The date was chosen to work with the schedules of several people that first pulled the hike together. Then the trip was made public and anyone that wanted to join was welcome.

I didn't expect such a large group but this will make the trip special and a lot of fun. I sure hope you can make it, ncthiker.”

“wow... 22 people with 11 tenative. this is going to be a fun trip.

pros, do you think there is parking for this many cars near the proposed start in Old Victoria?

I guess we could stage all the cars at the parking area at the END of the hike like we did at the Mammoth Cave buttkicker this year. That worked out VERY well in my opinion.”

“It'd be 23, Jim, if I had any vacation left. I have been wanting to hike in the UP since I started bp'ing. You know, the drive would be shorter if somebody hadn't gone and put that dam lake in the way.”

“I'm not getting any chances to use up vacation days, so it looks like I'll have a few left to come on up and do this trip.”

““It's your call really. I don't know how far it is from Norwich Rd to Old Victoria. I am sure we can work something out. Let us know what you think will work and we'll see what we can do.

The date was chosen to work with the schedules of several people that first pulled the hike together. Then the trip was made public and anyone that wanted to join was welcome.

I didn't expect such a large group but this will make the trip special and a lot of fun. I sure hope you can make it, ncthiker.”



JS,

I've posted a trip the weekend of Oct. 6th, if no others sign on for my trip, then I will possibly join you?

As for parking at the Old Victoria Townsite, there is a huge grass parking area that could handle quite a few cars , as well as parking directly in front of the townsite.(paved)

A bigger issue will be where you'll all camp each night, you'll probably need to form 3 seperate groups, and the fastest group, will end up with the best camp-sites?

The high overlooks have limited camp-spots, but you can hike a very short distance away, find a site, and still be close enough to be able to hike back to and eat a meal, or watch a sunrise/sunset up high.
last edited: 6/21/07 7:44:52 PM”

“it will all be good once we are there... you can over-plan these things.

dispersing at camp is always a good idea, esp if there are loud snoring people in the group... lol! we'll have a nice fire and good conversation, that's for sure.”

“NCThiker,
I wrote to you on "the otherside" that I could do the weekend before, or after the 6th. Maybe going on this trip would take care those last few miles. I wish I could have done it with you, it would have been perfect mileage ; )”

“graska, If no others sign on for my trip on the 5th-7th, then I might be willing to change the dates to accommodate you, either going the weekend before or after?”

“That's fine by me, I like the mileage you are doing, it looks like a nice hike.”

“graska wrote:

“That's fine by me, I like the mileage you are doing, it looks like a nice hike.”





I have already done the section from Norwich Rd. west to F.R.-326.

But, we had to skip the section that I'm now planning to hike, as the 35 miles we did, before we reached old Victoria, was very rough, with 200 or more trees across the trail.

We had intended to hike the entire, 65 miles from the South Laird rd,west TH to F.R.-326, but we fell a half day behind and were fairly wasted by the time we reached Old Victoria.

This is one reason that I want to go back, so, I can hike the section we skipped. Plus the Fall color will be a big plus as well.”

“yeah, I remember reading your trail report about all the trees you had to climb over.”

“Its was a harder hike, with the trail conditions as they where, than the section we hiked through the Trap Hills.


For the first 35 miles of the hike, we basically had to hike from 8:30am to 7:30pm, just to make our daily mileage.”

“Hammocks are the way to go in the Trapps..flat areas are tiny and rare...at least from Gleason Falls to Norwich Road...you can't camp in Whiskey Hollow...
last edited: 6/23/07 12:04:36 PM”

“all i need is a flat piece of ground to lay my body on. :)
last edited: 6/23/07 12:09:31 PM”

“MHH Wrote:


“Hammocks are the way to go in the Trapps..flat areas are tiny and rare...at least from Gleason Falls to Norwich Road...you can't camp in Whiskey Hollow...



Yes, I'm aware that there are no camping zones(private property) along, this section of the NCT.
The sections are marked in red on the map.(Red zones, mean no camping)”

“http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/06/27/bigfoot.ap/index.html

We can look for him/her as well”

“perhaps he'll sign up on the trip page”

“Hey, ncthiker, I wrote that (about Whiskey Hollow) for the folks that might not have a map yet...I figured YOU knew that...probably everyone else did too but since I wasn't sure, I posted the info...”

“LOL! I live in Eastern Marquette county and sightings seem to have gone up since Tarabull and I moved here. I'm not saying anything about it other than Tara is a lot taller than I am and has way more hair on her head.”

“Just ordered me up some maps. This trip will be long overdue for me.”

“This is going to be a fun trip. The cold weather could make for more entertaining meals. I keep going back to the NY strip steaks autumnmike cooked on the campfire grill on our NCT trip near prosecutors cabin.”

“autumnmike cooked some great apple cobbler at the kettle ramble too! What a guy!”

“Had to love the new gut”

“lol!”

“oops, guy”

“LMFAO!”

“Hello! Got introduced to this trip on another thread....but I can't seem to sign up (keep getting an error message), so I am just throwing myself out there as a maybe right on here. That is, if Nimblefoot will allow an "Urbanite" like me to join a trip! ;)”

“SUCCESS! I finally was able to get signed up!”

“Tonight I took my maps out of the archives filing cabinet in the basement and put them into the 2007 ready binder by the upstairs computer.”

“outstanding, patty!

pros: your post made me realize how close this trip is... really coming up fast. summer's almost gone!”

“PTP, sign up. It's Michigan. We have more teeth than they do:)”

“i got my maps yesterday. going to take them to uncle freddies pool today to look at them”

“More teeth but less flannel! What is it that they say..."say yah to da UP eh"....that sounds real intelligent, doesn't it? :)

And for those who are not fluent in the language...its Yooper and not Yupper.”

“Jimmy...don't REMIND ME of how fast summer is going by. It seems like just yesterday I took Lily and Amber to Wisconsin Dells! Its practically time to buy their school clothes now!!!!”

“see, you tell me not to remind you that summer is almost gone and you kick it up a notch by mentioning shopping for school clothes... shame on you!”

“We needin a bear proof container for this here trip, or the simple hang technique will do?”

“I know I know....I just put salt in the wound now don't I? Bear proof containers? Can't we just suspend things from trees? That's what we did in the Smokies? Are we keeping our food from bears or Yoopers. If there isn't beer and/or pork rinds in your pack...you should be free of the Yoopers.”

“I am now a maybe, Found out I got a job today,Goodbye unemployment woohoo!”

“Work up until the trip, then quit.

I am guessing we will just hang Patty. We did this last year while on our NCT hike up in WI.”

“Hanging your food should be enough.

Bear hunting will be going on until October 26th, and you might hear distance shots once or twice during the day, and perhaps a poacher at night. Plan on wearing a blaze orange hat for safety, and do not stumble around at night without a flashlight.”

“Good call Ed!”

“I was up there Monday! WOW, what a beautiful area! I explored old Victoria, hiked to the overlook and up Norwich bluff. Which was killer in the 90 degree temps, but well worth it when I saw the view. Now I'm really looking forward to doing the Fall hike with NCThiker, I don't know that I could handle the miles you're doing Jimmysan... but you'll love it I'm sure!”

“so i shouldn't wear my bear-skin coat?”

““I was up there Monday! WOW, what a beautiful area! I explored old Victoria, hiked to the overlook and up Norwich bluff. Which was killer in the 90 degree temps, but well worth it when I saw the view. Now I'm really looking forward to doing the Fall hike with NCThiker, I don't know that I could handle the miles you're doing Jimmysan... but you'll love it I'm sure!”
Graska
10:59:55 AM
8/01/07


Grace,

This is good to hear! Sounds like you've probably already seen some of best parts of the hike?”

“Your bear skin coat probably weighs more than you pack, loaded.”