Steep and Cheap

“Wow, that picture is deceiving. - should have read the description first. Looks like it has 3 lights.”

“so I was able to snag one of those Big Agnes Moon Hill bags yesterday! Now that I ordered one I am trying to find out a little about them, but can't find any reviews and I am assuming that it is a discontinued model because I couldn't find it on the website. Anyone have one or know anything about them?”

“Send it to me and I will review it for you. Cannot gaurantee I will give it back.”

“Hey Mose, I don't have that model but have the 20° Zirkel and the 35° Horse thief. The system works great. You can toss and turn all night and never fall off your sleepy pad. You will not get any drafts either. I worried that the hood opening might not follow my face as I sleep on my side but haven't had any issues at all. My bags are a bit higher fill (750) than yours (600) but you got yourself a great sleep system for a fantastic price. BA makes great stuff!
last edited: 11/01/07 11:19:35 AM”

“Kelty LE 3950 Trekker Backpack (external) 70% Off
$42
http://www.sierratradingpost.com/p/310,85742_Kelty-Trekker-Backpack-LE-3950-.html

Good loaner pack”

“Kelty Sawtooth 2 Tent 70% Off
4# 3 oz
$82.50
http://www.sierratradingpost.com/p/4264,88170_.html


Jansport Endeavor Backpack - Approach
$66.00
http://www.sierratradingpost.com/p/4264,85185_Jansport-Endeavor-Backpack-Approach.html


Lowe Alpine Backpack - Mountain Attack 40
$41.70
http://www.sierratradingpost.com/p/4264,85701_Lowe-Alpine-Backpack-Mountain-Attack-40-.html”

“Big Agnes Moon Hill Sleeping Bag: 0 Degree Down w/ Mummy Pad

$165


The bag is just under 3#'s which sounds good. The pad that comes with it is 2# 2oz which isn't so good.”

“Thank you! I just picked one up.”

“The 5#'s is what's scaring me off.”

“I've been thinking about getting a zero bag. I have been wondering how well this system works with no insulation on the underside of the bag. You've got the pad on the backside, but I sleep on my side. So basically my back would only have the air pad for insulation against the cold.

Is that right? Or maybe I misunderstand the system.”

“Nah, Its about 4#s and that includes the mat for a winter outing thats not bad. Got mine! Woohoo!

Creek dancer - Its a proven system. The mat stays on the bottom even if your on your side cuz its flat. Awesome deal. Sub $ 200 for a zero down bag.”

“It works very much like a quilt.”

“Yeah I got that part, but when you are on your side, you only have the air mat to protect you from the cold because there is no insulation in the backside of the bag. Right?

Nice deal though. Let me know how you like it!
last edited: 11/19/07 12:33:17 PM”

“How is it 4#'s? The bag is 2#12 oz and the pad is 2#2 oz for 4#14 oz which is basically 5 when you throw in stuff sacks and repair kits.”

“Dont matter if yer on your side back or whatever. The pad is insulated enough to keep you warm.


Ummmm.. I slept thru math class? Bottom line I figure thats about average for winter weight. Unless your spending $$$ for 900 fill. IMHO”

“Creek Dancer, it works very very well. No drafts and your back stays just as toasty as the rest of you. I have two bags by BA built the same way.”

“That's great Sass and Jackstraw. I am such a whiney butt about the cold, so I am glad to hear that the system actually works. I might just give it a try. Hopefully it will come up again for sale on SteepandCheap. I think I have seen in 2 or 3 times now.”

“I think, in a nice way, they're saying your butt is gonna be toast. Do they have something against you?”

“it weighs to much plus read the threads about how many folks had problems with the BA pads leaking
last edited: 11/20/07 8:07:23 AM”

“That's true. I have read about the leak problems. But my Insulmat developed leaks too. The difference is that if the BA pad leaks, then the whole system is shot.”

“I've been trying to figure it out, but can anyone tell me what kind of pad this Big Agnes Moon Hill system uses? What is the one that comes with it if you buy it on SAC, anyone have a link to it?”

“As soon as I get the bag, I will let you know”

“I contacted BA about the Moon Hill not being on their site. Here's the reply

Hi John. The Moonhill is made especially for some of our great dealers like Backcountry.com (who runs steapandcheap.com). It is a fantastic bag and they have it marked down to a great price. All the info you need can be found on Backcountry's site, but if you don't see something you're looking for just let me know.”

“LEKI Makalu Antishock Trekking Poles - 1 Pair”

“Mountainsmith Altura 1-Person 3-Season Tent
Sleep solo for elbow room.

$41.35 !!!”

“HOW DARE YOU list a piece of gear here without the weight!!! THE NERVE!”

“86.15 pound sterling-okay.”

“Material: [Body] 190T breathable comb printing polyester; [Floor] 190T PU5000MM polyester; [Fly] 190TT PU2000MM comb printing polyester
Freestanding: Yes
Poles: 2 w/ nylon sack
Pole Material: Aluminum
Doors: 1
Clip / Sleeve: Clip
Floor Space: 94 x 35in (239 x 89cm), 23sq ft (2.1sq m)
Interior Height: 25in (63.5cm)
Packed Size: 5 x 17in (13 x 43cm)
Seam Sealed: Yes
Ventilation: Mesh walls, stay-open grommet on fly
Weight: 3lb 8oz (1590g)
Recommended Use: Solo camping in spring - fall
Manufacturer Warranty: Lifetime”

“Marmot Trestles Women's Sleeping Bag: 30 Degree SpiraFil

A little heavy at 2lb. 10oz, but not bad.

$34!!”

“Full universal Crampon Now on $63.00”

“Big Agnes Stillwater Waterproof Sleeping Bag: 0 Degree Down
Leaky tent? Drippy snow cave? No worries.

$173.88

Reg - 3 lbs.”

“I got the moonstone last time they had it. Hope to be able to test it in 2 weeks.”

“WK - I'd love to hear your thoughts when you get to test it. I still haven't unpacked mine because I'm still very skeptical of it.”

“Yea, let us know what you think WK. It's come up for sale a few more times on S&C.”

“I bought the last BA bag the had and I like it.”

“Hey guys, I wrote a little tool to search to alert you of items you care about on steepandcheap. Check it out if you are interested. http://sacsearcher.com”

“Now THAT is cool, scrubby...I have Steep and Cheap come up as my homepage because awhile ago I wanted an Exped Downmat 7 short and I knew it showed up on and off...well, it eventually DID show up and I got one but in the meantime, many other temptations also appeared...your alert would have saved me some $$$...now, I am hooked so it is too late to save me but may save others...LOL...”

“If i'm interested in many items on SAC, I just use the sacsearcher multiple times? can many searches be linked to my email or just one at a time?”

“That's nifty and all but SAC already has a crapload of alerting methods on their site.
http://www.steepandcheap.com/steepcheap/fuel_your_addiction.html”

“WK what type of moonstone you got? I bought a (I think) 10F bag on Ebay...darn nice and toasty...will test in this weekend on the SC/NC border backpacking...WHOOHOO”

“I have the 0”

“Yeah, just create a new alert for each item. That way, when you get that item, you can just delete that alert.

@humanpackmule I know that SAC has a bunch of ways to get alerted when a new item comes up, but you can't just get alerted on the items you care about. That is why I put this together.
last edited: 1/24/08 12:00:16 PM”

“Marmot PreCip Jacket - Women's

$37.50!!!!!! Best price I have ever seen for this.”

“Marmot DriClime Jacket - Women's

$39.50!!!!!!!!!”

“Marmot DriClime Jacket - Men's

$42.13!!!!!!!”

“where?”

“www.steepandcheap.com

But it's gone now.”

“Oakley Laced Up Fleece Jacket - Women's
for $34.38...

Please buy one people. I'm tired of looking at this and I'm ready for the next item to come up.”

“that thing is fugly!”

“Hence the reason why it took so long to sell. I have an addiction to this stupid site.”