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Of course, Stove Stomper will blame Violin for what Adorable Annie said:

http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/03/04/coulter.edwards/index.html
Geobeet
8:34:38 AM
3/04/07

Edwards is a faggot.
bacpac
8:43:00 AM
3/04/07

Coming from closet homosexual, thats pretty funny. Be open to your gayness BP.

Considering Ann is a crack whore transvestite, thats pretty funny too :-)
last edited: 3/04/07 9:16:39 AM
mtnsteve
9:14:18 AM
3/04/07

Obviously your calling me a closet homosexual and Ann a transsexual is intended as a slur.

What does that say about your own hypocrisy? The left openly denigrates homosexuals as they announce to everyone they support them.
bacpac
9:59:22 AM
3/04/07

You bet it was s slur!
Whats the matter, you seem to enjoy calling people faggots, but don't like it when I call you gay?

LOL, it appears I touched a nerve.
last edited: 3/04/07 10:12:46 AM
mtnsteve
10:10:29 AM
3/04/07

Zoom
It went right over your head.
bacpac
10:23:04 AM
3/04/07

LOL
Nice try.
mtnsteve
10:30:21 AM
3/04/07

Posit this:

I think it goes to intent.

I also think one's intent can be gauged from the terms they use. The crack whore can call someone a 'faggot' and there's really no doubt about it being intended as a slur. If one uses more neutral terms ('gay', 'homosexual'), then the slur is in the eye of the beholder. Calling Bacpac a 'closet homosexual' is most certainly a slur --- in His mind. In actual fact it's a slur against homosexuals.

(and my apologies to all the crack whores)
Tilt
10:55:34 AM
3/04/07

You guys are cracked!
MarkO
11:17:31 AM
3/04/07

"Calling Bacpac a 'closet homosexual' is most certainly a slur --- in His mind. In actual fact it's a slur against homosexuals".

I should apologize to gay men and women everywhere for that....and I do :-)
mtnsteve
11:23:49 AM
3/04/07

What a lovely conversation for a Sunday morning -- !
Tilt
11:31:53 AM
3/04/07

Ahhh yes, you can always count on bacpac to take the low road and then act offended when somebody responds in kind.
Geobeet
11:45:22 AM
3/04/07

First off, I have to admit that Ann Coulter's comment was pretty funny as was her follow up about not meaning to insult homosexuals (in fact, had that been her follow up during her act, I might have stuck up for her more). She's smart and clever and fairly good looking - I might enjoy her as a night club act (or a drunken one night stand). Of course the fact that she said it in front of CPAC and got great applause suggests neither deserves respect as responsible political actors.

As far as "closet homosexual" being a slur, insult or criticism, my experience is that homophobes see insult in the word "homosexual" people who don't get anxious or freaked out by gay people see some criticism in the word "closet."
pedxing
11:51:38 AM
3/04/07

My "Anne" comment actually came about from another post on another forum.

We were discussing her recent appearance on a TV show. She was nervous, fidgety, babbling (more than usual) and her appearance bordered on anorexic. Someone else pointed out her Adams apple....now every time I see her I think of a transvestite crack whore.

I do apologize to all the crack whores and transvestites I have known.
mtnsteve
11:59:21 AM
3/04/07

"I do apologize to all the crack whores and transvestites I have known."

That reminds me of a really bad duet by Willy Nelson and Julio Iglesias.
MarkO
5:43:05 PM
3/04/07

You mean 'To All The Girls I Rubbed Before?'
Geobeet
6:42:47 PM
3/04/07

Argh --
Tilt
7:50:06 PM
3/04/07

Tilt, Thanks for explaining the obvious to mtnsteve. Now explain it so Geobeet can understand.
bacpac
8:54:21 PM
3/04/07

I see bacpac still has the old dancing moves. LOL!
Nigal
8:58:37 PM
3/04/07

LOL
“Tilt, Thanks for explaining the obvious to mtnsteve".

Zoom...................
mtnsteve
9:01:01 PM
3/04/07

These liberals have two left feet.
bacpac
9:02:27 PM
3/04/07

Geobeat has a crush on me. How cute.
StoveStomper
9:18:01 PM
3/04/07

Beorge Gush hath two left footses and political CRABS.
uncliff
9:27:03 PM
3/04/07

"I was going to have a few comments on the other Democratic presidential candidate, John Edwards, but it turns out that you have to go into rehab if you use the word 'faggot,' so I'm - so, kind of at an impasse, can't really talk about Edwards, so I think I'll just conclude here and take your questions," said Coulter, whose comment was followed by applause. - Ann Coulter

I think that in its context it's pretty funny and not hateful. And I am someone who has dedicated much time in pointless Innernet debates defending the rights of gays to marry and pillorying christians on their hateful bigoted views of homosexuality.
last edited: 3/05/07 7:26:25 AM
Mutt
7:25:37 AM
3/05/07

But the New York Times reported that she responded, in an e-mail, "C'mon, it was a joke. I would never insult gays by suggesting that they are like John Edwards. That would be mean."

her response was even funnier...everyone needs to drink a beer and stop being so damn sensitive
thriftyhiker
7:33:48 AM
3/05/07

I think, IMHO Marko has the most sane response to this, apparently he is giving it the recognition it is due.

WHOOPTIE DOO. Heck if I gave credence to everything every person, I have to deal with, said to me....I woulda quit years ago.

Years ago I had a Professor who was living in a relationship with another guy. We knew it, he never advertised it, BIG WHOOP. But one day one Jack@$$ asked him openly, "Sir, are you gay?'

To which the professor replied,"Why are you looking for a date?"

Where did the humor in politics go? God I remember when THE GREAT RONALD REAGAN (hallowed be his name) was being hit with charges he was TOO OLD to be President.

Rather than whine about "PC challenges to the chronologically challenged" President Reagan opened up a debate with,"I promise I will not refer to my opponent's youth and inexperience in any negative fashion."

GREAT LINE. Heck I would have come back with "Gay huh? She is probably jealous becuase I would have better looking legs in a dress."

BOOM, joke and its gone.
XL400236
7:35:42 AM
3/05/07

Edwards features Coulter's slur on Web site to raise cash

Edwards is hoping Coulter's comment will lead to campaign cash.
WASHINGTON (AP) -- A video is worth a thousand words. And dollars, too.

Prominently featured on John Edwards' presidential campaign Web site is a video of conservative commentator Ann Coulter insulting him. And with just a mouse click you can hear the invective and get a chance to donate at the same time.

On Friday, Coulter, a writer and columnist known for provocative remarks, told an audience at the Conservative Political Action Conference in Washington: "I was going to have a few comments on the other Democratic presidential candidate John Edwards, but it turns out you have to go into rehab if you use the word 'faggot,' so I -- so kind of an impasse, can't really talk about Edwards."

The Edwards camp is now seeking to capitalize on the slur by soliciting $100,000 in "Coulter Cash" to "show that inflaming prejudice to attack progressive leaders will only backfire."

Meanwhile, conservatives were none too pleased with Coulter, either. Rev. Patrick J. Mahoney, Director of the Christian Defense Coalition, said: "Frankly, I would have loved to have heard Ann expose and dissect the radical agenda of Senator Edwards instead of resorting to cheap name calling."
Geobeet
2:12:00 PM
3/05/07

https://johnedwards.com/action/contribute/coulter

It almost seems like she tried to stop it as she said it. Drew a lot of applause from the crowd though.

The dollar amounts Mr. Edwards has put to donate are pretty good to...

25
50
100
250
1,000
2,300
4,600

What is up with the 2,300 and 4,600 amounts? Am I missing something here.
Wounded Knee
2:58:52 PM
3/05/07

Beet actually the bloggers who gave Coulter heck have now started reporting their readers are giving them Hell...

Ofcourse Bill Maher can call for the Death of VP Cheney, or

Or in SanFran...

http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2007/02/25/MNG2DOATDK1.DTL

"the artsy crowd" can decry heterosexuals moving into the Castro neighborhood (imagine if you replace Hetero with black, hispanic...or even Gay) and destroying the neighborhood and you see DOODLY about it....

Heterosexuals "are welcome as long as they understand this is our community," said Adam Light, a leader in the Castro Coalition, a group formed eight months ago to address the shifts in the neighborhood in recent years.

Wow imagine if say a white guy said this and used the term, in reference to blacks.
last edited: 3/05/07 3:01:47 PM
XL400236
3:00:06 PM
3/05/07

Hey, if she's raising money for Edwards, it can't be all bad can it?
Geobeet
3:03:07 PM
3/05/07

I really think she meant to say fag, not the other. The meaning is still the same, the other sounds more nasty to me.

It is unfortunate that she has to shoot her mouth off like this. I don't know if it will do anything to the Rep. canidates, probably not. It just make her look like a bonehead.

Oh yea, one more thing. Can someone here pue a recent picture of her and John Kerry next to each other? If you took off her hair, I really think she looks like him.
Wounded Knee
3:08:37 PM
3/05/07

How sad is it when the once Grand Old Party has this hateful crack whore as it's last hero?
Reverend Truth V Wicked
3:11:32 PM
3/05/07

"Of course Bill Maher can call for the Death of VP Cheney,..."

Would that accusation hold up in a court of law??

"Hey Bill, there is this guy........"
MarkO
3:11:33 PM
3/05/07

I think this is interesting. Ann Coulter says something like this and you guys get all bent out of shape, but Violin, Tilt, USA and others say far worse than this on a daily basis and it just skates by cause it's about the other party. What a bunch of hypocrits!!
NoProb
3:20:54 PM
3/05/07

Whaaa....I got pwn3d in Second Life and now she called me a bad name! Give me money!

Do we really want a whiny little crybaby like him to be our President? For the love of God Edwards, drop the sack.
humanpackmule
3:40:02 PM
3/05/07

Prove he is not gay. Ask her for a date then see if he scores!
Wounded Knee
3:43:55 PM
3/05/07

"last hero"? What in blazes are you mumbling about, violin?
Mutt
3:45:36 PM
3/05/07

Judging by the number of bookings she gets on Hannity, et al, she’s the hero of the party of hate, greed, intolerance and fanaticism. She’s the perfect spokesperson for those with no shame or honor.
Reverend Truth V Wicked
4:51:00 PM
3/05/07

"...the party of hate, greed, intolerance and fanaticism." That would have to be the party that is represented by the jackass. right?
NoProb
4:55:11 PM
3/05/07

Interesting that Mutt and I are the ones saying Coulter's remarks were funny.

However, I do think she was being hateful and it its not good to be injecting this directly into the political arena.
pedxing
8:40:48 PM
3/05/07

...for those with no shame or honor.”
Reverend Truth V Wicked
4:51:00 PM
3/05/07

Vile really shouldn't talk about hisself or his party like that.
LOL
StoveStomper
8:51:17 PM
3/05/07

she’s the hero of the party of hate, greed, intolerance and fanaticism. - violin

Frankly, there's elements of that in both major parties, but in no way is it the sine qua non of either. However, it really does describe you and most wingnuts, and that is a fact a blind man can see clearly on a foggy evening.
Mutt
9:35:40 AM
3/06/07

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