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A Senate panel, following the House's lead, authorized subpoenas Thursday for White House political adviser Karl Rove and other top aides involved in the firing of federal prosecutors.

http://www.forbes.com/feeds/ap/2007/03/22/ap3542501.html
VioLiN
1:14:57 PM
3/22/07

“Dance, Geo! Dance!
LOLOLOLOLOL!!!!”
StoveStomper


There you go again, strutting your limited vocabulary.
Geobeet
1:20:27 PM
3/22/07

Bush You're Fired!

No hood for the 'shrub' either.
salebored
3:53:50 PM
3/22/07

Ommmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Geobeet
10:10:50 AM
3/24/07


Should I poke this thread with a stick? *snicker*
StoveStomper
1:37:16 PM
3/26/07

Musta hired them from the Democrats (LOL)
XL400236
1:45:10 PM
3/26/07

I want my General Lee, damn it!
humanpackmule
1:49:11 PM
3/26/07

The Mickey Mouse ears were a nice touch.
Tilt
2:05:12 PM
3/26/07

YAAAWN..yeah brought by the same bunch who went after the PLAME leak..and got..DOODLY they ended up burning some low level goof for a PROCESS CRIME....
XL400236
2:07:10 PM
3/26/07

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

silly libbyies! :) :p

"In addition, five of the eight were among the government's top performers in winning convictions."

Well there ya go! They were the ones that had the cushy easy jobs of convicting republicans. If they had the hard job of fabricating things to convict democrats, they might still have a job at the PLEASURE OF OUR GREAT AND WONDERFUL PRESIDENT.
Stomp Stover
2:58:26 PM
3/26/07

UM whats your support for that oh crossed one? Regardless their job is an AT WILL job...

Georgia is an At Will state...meaning if you arent' wanted you are GONE>

But let me get this right....voter fraud is only bad IF it happens to libbie democrats right?
last edited: 3/26/07 3:08:43 PM
XL400236
3:06:20 PM
3/26/07

lololololololololol


I agree XL! And, you have to admit that the Bush administration has been consistent in trying to keep low performers on the job at every level, starting at the top! Stay the Course, silly libbies!
Stomp Stover
3:09:03 PM
3/26/07

low performers....I think the 42nd was the only one with admitted "low-Performers" in the Oval Office.
XL400236
3:11:59 PM
3/26/07

Silly cowardly troll, ha ha.
StoveStomper
3:12:21 PM
3/26/07

Goodling to invoke Fifth Amendment right not to testify in firings scandal

By Elana Schor
March 27, 2007
TheHill.com

Lawyers for Monica Goodling, the Justice Department’s White House liaison, told senators yesterday that she would invoke her Fifth Amendment right to testify before the Judiciary Committee in its probe of the U.S. attorney firings scandal, citing what they described as the political nature of the investigation.

Goodling’s counselors at Akin Gump, John Dowd and Jeffrey King, sent a letter to Judiciary Chairman Patrick Leahy (D-Vt.) explaining their advice to Goodling, arguing that the committee’s process “is politically charged and lacks fundamental fairness.” Dowd and King also alleged that a senior Justice official told Sen. Charles Schumer (D-N.Y.) that he inadvertently lied to the Judiciary panel after being improperly briefed by Goodling and other aides.



oops.

I suppose the next thing 'the senior Justice official' will say is that his statements were inadvertently inoperative.

Tilt
2:01:15 PM
3/27/07

Ha Ha!!!
I like her style, "up yours Dems".
StoveStomper
2:03:25 PM
3/27/07

Given what happen to Libby for testifying, I think I'd think long and hard before I'd talk to them. 5th ammendment does seem kind appropriate.
NoProb
2:12:19 PM
3/27/07

It's nothing but a perjury fishing trip. The bad thing is that the republicans are the ones who taught it to the democrats.
Nigal
2:14:15 PM
3/27/07

HMM she could say "I do not recall 126 times or something.

I say call shrillery and ask her how to "get ahead lying to the Senate"
XL400236
3:00:10 PM
3/27/07

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - An FBI agent was warned to keep quiet about the dismissal of a U.S. attorney after he told a newspaper her firing would hurt the agency's ongoing investigations and speculated politics was involved, a U.S. Senate panel heard on Tuesday.
[...]
Carol Lam, who helped win the 2005 political corruption conviction of then-U.S. Republican Rep. Randy "Duke" Cunningham of California, was among seven prosecutors fired on December 7.

On January 13, the San Diego Union-Tribune quoted Dan Dzwilewski, head of FBI's San Diego office, as saying Lam was crucial to ongoing investigations. "I guarantee politics is involved," he was quoted saying.

Feinstein said her chief counsel had called the FBI's San Diego office to verify the accuracy of the story. She said the office confirmed it was true "but they also said they'd been warned to say no more."
[...]
Sen. Charles Schumer, a New York Democrat, noted that among the shifting reasons given for firing prosecutors was failure to energetically pursue voter-fraud investigations.

Schumer asked Mueller if he was aware of any FBI voter-fraud probe that should have resulted in an indictment but did not.

"Not to my knowledge," the FBI director replied.


http://www.publicbroadcasting.net/wned/news.newsmain?action=article&ARTICLE_ID=1059437
vioLin
10:53:31 AM
3/28/07

PBS??????
Yea, there is an unbiased 'news' source.
LOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!
StoveStomper
10:57:08 AM
3/28/07

WASHINGTON (Reuters)

duhduhduhduhduh!
vioLin
11:47:50 AM
3/28/07

Reuters is certainly not unbiased. I can understand how YOU might not be able to see that.
bacpac
12:06:53 PM
3/28/07

....www.publicbroadcasting.net/wned/news.newsmain....

duhduhduhduhduh!
StoveStomper
12:16:10 PM
3/28/07

Public Broadcasting...should be CUT LOOSE, if you can't make it on your own SORRY.
XL400236
2:09:03 PM
3/28/07


D&D Grandmaster Dragon Slayer, Level IX & former Chief of Staff to the Attorney General, Kyle Sampson

Karl Rove's mini-me found alive and explaining how he fired some dudes.
Stomp Stover
6:49:34 PM
3/28/07


D&D Valkyrie & Prince of the Morgs, Karl Rove
Stomp Stover
6:53:21 PM
3/28/07

Oog-Boog-ah-Bow-Wow-Yip
MarkO
6:56:26 PM
3/28/07

Everyone but Fox is unbiased - don't you silly libbies understand this. We only like news that tells us what we want to hear.

I'm sure Reuters is horrified to find out their 150 odd year reputation as one of the most reliable news sources on the planet is in tatters because an couple of wacko right-wingers prefer Rupert Murdoch's Fox News or the Drudge report or even a right-ring blog or two.
Y2
7:45:54 PM
3/28/07

...and of course a whacko socialist like Y2 isn't biased.
LOL
last edited: 3/28/07 8:25:26 PM
StoveStomper
8:18:12 PM
3/28/07

No, I think Reuters pretty much screwed themselves when they were busted using shopped photos in the Lebanese war last year.
Nigal
8:20:41 PM
3/28/07

Don't you silly connies see how disastrous it is to has a bunch of idiots running this country. No , you can't see past you own knowledge of the bible. Get real fast or the consequences move in fast.
salebored
8:35:44 PM
3/28/07

You mean the consequences of the great economy and a secure country?
bacpac
5:34:52 AM
3/29/07

Idiots running the country...OH you mean the DemoSocialist Party in the Congress...couldn't agree more.
XL400236
7:45:57 AM
3/29/07

The Myth Of Voter Fraud


By Michael Waldman and Justin Levitt
Thursday, March 29, 2007; Page A19

As Congress probes the firing of eight U.S. attorneys, attention is centering on who knew what, and when. It's just as important to focus on "why," such as the reason given for the firing of at least one of the U.S. attorneys, John McKay of Washington state: failure to prosecute the phantom of individual voter fraud.

Allegations of voter fraud -- someone sneaking into the polls to cast an illicit vote -- have been pushed in recent years by partisans seeking to justify proof-of-citizenship and other restrictive ID requirements as a condition of voting. Scare stories abound on the Internet and on editorial pages, and they quickly become accepted wisdom.

But the notion of widespread voter fraud, as these prosecutors found out, is itself a fraud. Firing a prosecutor for failing to find wide voter fraud is like firing a park ranger for failing to find Sasquatch. Where fraud exists, of course, it should be prosecuted and punished. (And politicians have been stuffing ballot boxes and buying votes since senators wore togas; Lyndon Johnson won a 1948 Senate race after his partisans famously "found" a box of votes well after the election.) Yet evidence of actual fraud by individual voters is painfully skimpy.

Before and after every close election, politicians and pundits proclaim: The dead are voting, foreigners are voting, people are voting twice. On closer examination, though, most such allegations don't pan out. Consider a list of supposedly dead voters in Upstate New York that was much touted last October. Where reporters looked into names on the list, it turned out that the voters were, to quote Monty Python, "not dead yet."

Or consider Washington state, where McKay closely watched the photo-finish gubernatorial election of 2004. A challenge to ostensibly noncitizen voters was lodged in April 2005 on the questionable basis of "foreign-sounding names." After an election there last year in which more than 2 million votes were cast, following much controversy, only one ballot ended up under suspicion for double-voting. That makes sense. A person casting two votes risks jail time and a fine for minimal gain. Proven voter fraud, statistically, happens about as often as death by lightning strike.

Yet the stories have taken on the character of urban myth. Alarmingly, the Supreme Court suggested in a ruling last year ( Purcell v. Gonzalez) that fear of fraud might in some circumstances justify laws that have the consequence of disenfranchising voters. But it's already happening -- those chasing imaginary fraud are actually taking preventive steps that would disenfranchise millions of real live Americans.

Identification requirements often sound simple. But some types of paperwork simply aren't available to many Americans. We saw this with the new Medicaid proof-of-citizenship requirement, which led to benefits being cut off for many longtime citizens. Some states insist that voters provide photo IDs such as driver's licenses. But at least 11 percent of voting-age Americans, disproportionately elderly and minority voters, lack the necessary papers. Required documentation such as naturalization paperwork can cost as much as $200. By contrast, when the poll tax was declared unconstitutional in 1966, it was $1.50 ($8.97 in 2007 dollars).

Congress should use this controversy as an opportunity to address true issues of voter protection. Experts have concluded that the most significant threat of fraud comes from electronic voting systems, now used by 80 percent of voters. Legislation introduced by Reps. Rush D. Holt (D-N.J.) and Thomas M. Davis III (R-Va.) would require a voter-verified record along with random audits to double-check against tampering. It would also bar wireless components from machines that could allow a hacker using a PDA to stage an attack. Lawmakers should also immediately stop pushing ID measures that would turn away legitimate voters.

Those investigating the U.S. attorney firings should ask what orders went out to other prosecutors in the run-up to the 2006 election. Prosecutors are not hired-gun lawyers on a party payroll. They have a special duty to exercise their power responsibly, particularly in the context of a heated election. Pressure on prosecutors to join a witch hunt for individual voter fraud is a scandal, not just for the Justice Department but for voters seeking to exercise their most basic right.

Michael Waldman is executive director and Justin Levitt is an attorney at the Brennan Center for Justice at New York University School of Law.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/03/28/AR2007032801969.html
vioLin
11:29:33 AM
3/29/07

I'm sorry V. Unless you post a link to the Washington Times, WJ, Drudge or Faux news, then we can not trust the story.
bearmagnet
11:45:58 AM
3/29/07

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The Brennan Center for Justice at New York University Law School is a progressive, non-partisan public policy and law institute that focuses on issues involving democracy and justice. The Center’s mission states that it is “dedicated to strengthening democracy and securing justice, through law, scholarship, education and advocacy.”1

The organization is currently headed by Michael Waldman, who served as Director of Speechwriting for President Bill Clinton from 1995-1999.

*******************************************

A Clinton Think Tank
Nice unbiased source there, Vile.
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
StoveStomper
11:49:16 AM
3/29/07



StoveStomper
12:14:45 PM
3/29/07

WASHINGTON -- Senator Edward M. Kennedy yesterday accused President Bush of using the Department of Justice to further his administration's "right-wing ideology," saying that veteran prosecutors were replaced by political operatives in key states to ensure that "reliable partisans" are in place in time for the 2008 presidential election.

Kennedy noted that the recent rash of firings among US attorneys put new top prosecutors in place in several presidential swing states, including Florida, Iowa, New Mexico, Minnesota, and Arkansas.

At least two of the eight US attorneys fired by the administration refused to investigate spurious claims of voter fraud that were initiated by Republicans, Kennedy said. Two of the new US attorneys, meanwhile, had documented records of pursuing GOP goals, one as a Justice Department official and the other as a top aide to White House political adviser Karl Rove, he said.

"The administration views our system of justice as merely another arena for furthering its right-wing ideology," Kennedy said in a speech at the National Press Club. "The conclusion is inescapable that the administration has methodically placed reliable partisans in positions where they can influence the outcome of the 2008 election."

http://www.boston.com/news/nation/washington/articles/2007/03/29/kennedy_justice_firings_are_keyed_to_08_vote/
vioLin
1:01:59 PM
3/29/07

The swimmer is always a good source.
LOL
StoveStomper
1:03:44 PM
3/29/07

Abuse of position...there is something a murder would know about....

"And in other news, Mary Jo Kopechne had no comment."
XL400236
1:04:37 PM
3/29/07

SS using wikipedia?????????

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!
bearmagnet
1:05:26 PM
3/29/07

Maybe you crackers should get up a lynch mob if you are so hung up on Old Ted.
last edited: 3/29/07 1:15:17 PM
MarkO
1:05:44 PM
3/29/07

A former top Justice Department official [Kyle Sampson] said Thursday that U.S. Attorney Carol Lam in San Diego was fired because of immigration prosecutions and denied any link to her investigation of corruption cases involving Republicans.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2007/03/29/state/n091320D16.DTL&type=politics



Oh really?





vioLin
1:06:22 PM
3/29/07

BUSTED!!!
vioLin
1:07:07 PM
3/29/07

Poor dumb maRKO.
StoveStomper
1:07:19 PM
3/29/07

Yep form letter, printed up after the fact. (LOL)

REGARDLESS WHAT they did or who did it...the Attorney serves and the Pleasure of the President.

We still have that small matter of 93 (thats ALL of them) fired by Clinton....
XL400236
1:28:10 PM
3/29/07

Form letter?

You're certifiable.
vioLin
1:38:09 PM
3/29/07

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