Sharpton v. Imus

“Jason Whitlock doesn't know #&%!$ about Vivian Stringer. She is no victim. Her daughter contracted meningitis as an infant and has been severely handicapped her whole life and her husband died suddenly about 15 years ago. You've likely never heard about either and I'm sure the author hasn't.

I wish people would stop speaking about people they have no clue about.
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“WTF are you talking about Violin, obviously you read something into what Whitlock wrote that no one else who uses "English" has.”

“I suspect Violins real issue is that Rutgers is his team. Whitlock said some good stuff.”

“What I understood Springer to say is that the uproar over Imus' comments stole the moment of glory from the team. That sounds somewhat like victim speech to me. How a second rate shcok jock could destroy the season rutgers had is something I don't understand. If you can explain it to me I would appreciate it.”

“Would anyone happen to know where all the Dixie Chick Defenders are to defend Imus's free speech? He's getting the same treatment. Why aren't they standing up for his freedoms?”

“They are spineless hypocrite's, Nigal. Like Whitlock said, very willing to fight the easy fight.”

““WTF are you talking about Violin, obviously you read something into what Whitlock wrote that no one else who uses "English" has.”
- DeoreDX


It’s an opportunity for Stringer, Jackson, and Sharpton to step on victim platforms and elevate themselves and their agenda$.


I read English just fine.”

“You all heard that MSNBC dropped his show?”

“Yeah well there is a shocker...remember Mart Du K and the Fuzzy Zoeller comment...his clothing line was gone, outa there, histoi!

Rosie is openly hostile and insulting to a conservative....BOOM zip zero nada...I stopped shopping there...Its liberal hypocrisy as usual.

Look Imus is a shock artist always has been and he has like what 600 people who listen to him? Whooptie doo.”

“This article is more about Alabama football than Imus, but it does have some interesting comments about Imus:

Article published Apr 12, 2007
CECIL HURT: Saban knows his agenda

He’s brash. He’s outspoken. He shoots straight from the hip and doesn’t mind what he hits. He’s smart enough to know what his agenda is, and how to work it, and if that stirs up a national controversy, then he’s not going to shy away from it.
Don Imus? Forget about it. Imus is a crusty old fellow who is working in a hey-listen-to-me attention-grabbing medium, talk radio. He’s doing it pretty well, if the eye-popping salary and revenue-generation figures in Wednesday’s New York Times are correct. The Times says that Imus makes $10 million and generates up to $560 million in advertising revenue for his various corporate bosses. That sounds like a good deal all around to me, although Myles Brand probably doesn’t see it that way.
But sometimes Imus isn’t too smart. This week is an example. His well-documented comments about Rutgers’ women’s basketball team were foolish, but they were designed to push some buttons in his audience. That’s what a talk-radio host does. Usually, when those buttons gets pushed, it generates a little street talk, or a few angry phone calls, and that’s entertainment. This time, Imus happened to push a politically incorrect button that was attached to a keg of dynamite, and his effusive apologies were nothing more than an attempt to blow out a burning fuse ignited by the whole clumsy incident.
Personally, I like my media manipulators to be more subtle. That’s why, in a certain detached way, I enjoy watching Nick Saban work.
The Alabama football coach hasn’t quite grabbed as many headlines as Imus this week, but he hasn’t done too badly for himself. He’s been the topic of big spreads on the Sports Illustrated and CBS Sportsline Web sites. (The Sporting News wrote about him, too, but did it with the worn-out “Alabama fans are so crazy" angle that rendered the story unreadable.) Stuart Mandel at SI predicted big things from Saban’s Alabama teams, but also called Saban “a jerk." A few state columnists called him worse.
Saban’s latest transgression has been the limited access to the practice field, coupled with his occasional bluster at his press conferences.
Now, I’m a media member, too. I like to watch the team I’m assigned to cover at practice. I’ve seen more Alabama scrimmages than any newspaper reporter still on the beat, by a long shot. I like being able to call the head coach at 1 a.m. and get an answer to a pressing question. I’m not going to discuss precisely the level of access I do or do not have, but I like having it.
But I’m also paid to watch and analyze people and their behavior. In that sense, I’m less concerned with what Saban has specifically done in terms of practice access, and more concerned with figuring out why he has done it.
I’m less inclined to complain about the parameters I have to work with and more inclined to figure out why those parameters are structured the way they are.
Don Imus didn’t call Rutgers’ basketball players “nappy-headed hos" out of vitriolic racism. He did it to elicit a reaction. He simply got more of a reaction than he wanted for an off-hand comment.
Nick Saban is doing the same thing, but far more cleverly. He isn’t making reporters jump through hoops because he can’t afford a ticket to the circus. He’s doing it to elicit a reaction and, in this case, I think a lot of people are giving him precisely the reaction he wants, without even realizing it.
It’s a common characteristic of large, entrenched institutions to misunderstand how they are perceived by the public. The NCAA is the greatest extant example of this outside of Washington, D.C. But the media sometimes doesn’t get it, either. The media thinks that because it gives information to the public, the public is therefore on the side of media members. Maybe that was so, 30 or 40 years ago. But it’s not so any more. I think Saban has figured that out, or understands it intuitively. I think he knows that the more he makes the media howl, the more a large portion of his core constituency -- Alabama fans -- like to hear the howling. I don’t think that’s just the rabid football fan, either. I think there is a certain pleasure taken in some pretty high places when someone gripes about Saban and his control issues.
Additionally, the more criticism Saban gets over issues like practice access -- and, particularly, the more vicious that criticism becomes -- the more it inoculates him against valid criticism on coaching issues. If Stuart Mandel, the SI writer (who wrote a very good piece, overall) calls Saban a jerk during the season, how much weight will it carry when he’s already called Saban a jerk 15 times in the preseason?
So excuse me if I don’t get all worked up over Don Imus and the controversy that he has inadvertently created. It’s far more fascinating to watch Nick Saban create controversy -- and realize that he knows exactly what he is doing.
Cecil Hurt is sports editor of the Tuscaloosa News. Reach him at cecil.hurt@tuscaloosanews.com or 205-722-0225”

“I guess the test I use is, WHAT WAS THE HARM?

Feelings...sorry don't count. But when your comments border on damaging..find the damage and repay it.”

“It's not so much the things that are said that are the problem as the general attitude of the people who say them.

If you ask me, the real problem is this: you say something that makes people gasp immediate upon hearing it -- the fundamental objective of any shock jock, right? Then suddenly, large sums of people start to vocally take offense to those comments. The problem here is that now the person making the comments thinks that a handful of apologetic gestures will make the whole thing go away. Yet the sexist and racist attitude remains.

IMHO, people like that don't belong on the radio, nor on TV, nor on any other distribution medium any more than a convicted child molester belongs near a playground. We don't need people promoting those kind of ideals -- that have been generally accepted to do nothing but breed hatred -- to the masses. You can undergo rehab; you can undergo community service -- but I've got news for you -- the general attitude of a middle-aged person doesn't change much.

My $0.02”

“http://www.cnn.com/2007/SHOWBIZ/TV/04/12/imus.rutgers/index.html

WOW! What next? Hang him?”

“"I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character."

-MLK”

““Would anyone happen to know where all the Dixie Chick Defenders are to defend Imus's free speech? He's getting the same treatment. Why aren't they standing up for his freedoms?”
Nigal
6:21:38 AM
4/12/07
ignore this user

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“They are spineless hypocrite's, Nigal. Like Whitlock said, very willing to fight the easy fight.”
bacpac
7:00:32 AM
4/12/07


Fooey to that, you farking whiners. HERE. ill say it


HOORAY FOR THE DIXIE AND DON IMUS CHICKS!”

“Jason Whitlock doesn't know #&%!$ about Vivian Stringer. She is no victim. Her daughter contracted meningitis blah blah blah yackita yackita

way to miss the bigger picture there. derail the bigger point to nitpick over minuteia.

the point is, is this. until both the thuggy and victim mentality is gone from black folks, theyre gonna be their own worst enemies, not bozos like imus

this left-leaner has spoken”

“Would any of this have played out like this if Howard Stern had said the exact same thing?

I don't listen to Imus and have no dog in this fight. I don't think he should have been fired based on this particular event. Maybe it was a sum total type of thing. I do think what he said was incredibly stupid and that he was begging to get bashed when he said it.”

“if ya ask me - Imus has won this battle - he's gotten so much free time and now people who never heard of him or his show know who he is.

Rutgers will go on and have another good team..... those girls are fine. Get their feelings off their shirt sleeves and turn their backs on Imus is all they need to do.

Imus will land on his feet and have another show and people will line up to join in on the cash train that is created.”

“Dayhiker, did you ever listen to Stern when he was on the free airwaves? He may not have been simulcasted near you.

He has said words and phrases ten times worse than what Imus said and always got away with it. No why?

Robin Quivers (SP?) his news lady is black”

“Know way!

LOL!”

“I actually feel bad for Imus. I certainly hope his career is ruined over this. It's awful that he made these comments about real people - college athletes are really still kids in my eyes and I'm glad he was reproached and I think a suspension is OK.

I don't applaud Jackson and Sharpton's efforts (Jackson should remember his "Hymietown" remarks and the uproar over them - Imus has been worse, but shouldn't a Reverend be thinking about the mote and beam). The lynch mob is silly.

But the PC bashing is equally silly and pathetic. Kamau Kambon doesn't have a TV show, a radio show or a national audience. He really is at the stage where you don't want to give him any more publicity. If he was invited to speak near me, I'd surely think about joining the picket line. But comparing some freak who got onto C-Span once - even if what he says is absolutely horrible to a guy who has a regular TV and radio show is silly.

I also think the columnists who say there is no real racism in the US are out of touch with reality. Racism is still real. Of course black folk can be racist and white folks can be victim. However white folk have plenty of advantages and a lot more power and I have little sympathy for the notion that a white person is as injured by the same act of racism as a white person is.

At least Imus has the sense not to justify what he said, and not to think it should be a ho-hum yawner. I hope he learns something and gets to keep his career.”

“ped - did you mean to say that you hope his career IS ruined or IS NOT ruined?

WK - I never listened to Stern when he was free but would occaisionally see the rebroadcast on E. Agreed he says things 10x worse. I've tuned him in once or twice on Sirius and he's even more over the top.”

“all these yay-hoos can say whatever they want - they have their opinions - right, wrong, stupid, immoral - who cares. Opinions are like #&%!$s - everybody's got one - some are bigger than others and smell worse, but still.

Whether we choose to listen to them or care what they say is what makes the difference in our society. People obviously LOVE to hear the nonsense spewed daily by the likes of Imus (stern is case in point). I don't listen and I don't really care what they say or who they offend.

I'm kinda tired of everybody getting offended all the time. Like I told my 15 year old the other day - he's got to be 'ok' with people having a different opinion from his - even if he HATES the viewpoint of the other person, they are entitled to it.

I wouldn't thing the Rutgers gals are nappy headed whatevers no matter what Imus says.”

“Roam gets a gold star for standing up for freedom of speech! :P”

“Oops - thanks for asking Dayhiker. I hope his career is not ruined. I've never listened to him for more than 15 minutes at a time, but sometimes he is fun and interesting. I'll listen to him as much in the future if I have an opportunity.

I just learned that CBS had fired him, too. I hope he finds talk show work - I trust he will. I'm sure he'll get offers.

While I'm at it, there are interesting parallels with the Dixie Chicks. I didn't hear people on the right saying it was a free speech issue when public figures bashed 'em, people hollored for boycotts, and companies like Clear Channel cut 'em off of all radio play. As far as they were concerned, it was free speech meets free enterprise.

But now, companies make business decision to sever their ties and public figures bash Imus and its a PC assault of free speech.
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“People can say anything they want about people in this country as long as they are not homosexual or black. For some reason these folks are so hyper sensitive they have to be treated differently.”
bacpac
6:47:55 AM
4/11/07

Might have something to do with history and reality. In the last two centuries people haven't been lynched for knowing their place as white people, or for killed for trying to rgister white voters. Few people have been beat up or killed because they were straight. Straight white men are less likely than gays or blacks to get the sh-- kicked out of them for making a pass.”

“Straight white men are less likely than gays or blacks to get the sh-- kicked out of them for making a pass.”
PedXing
6:06:44 PM
4/12/07


Ped, I wish all the women who slapped me silly knew this LOL.”

“LOL -

but hey, if this really happened to you, then how come you're still so full of .... wit... (yeah that's right, wit) witty replies?
last edited: 4/12/07 8:32:54 PM”

“Seriously though, there are plenty of people alive today who remember a time when a black man was taking his life into his own hands if he looked a white woman the wrong way.

For example, in BB King's autobiography he tells of how after he joined the army he was traveling with a bus full of new black soldiers when it was stopped by white men wanting to punish the black man who had shown interest in a white woman.”

“Tammy Bruce was rappin today. Top rap tunes adapted for words that white girls can't say on the radio.”

“CBS Radio Fires Don Imus
Moonves: 'All Of Us Have Been Deeply Upset'

http://wcbstv.com/topstories/local_story_102163935.html”

“They just interupted a commercial to to say that the Gov of NJ was on his way to the meeting between Imus and the basketball team and the motorcade was involved in a multi-car accident. He's in surgery now.”

“Oh #&%!$.


The crash occurred as Corzine's two-car motorcade was heading north to Princeton after a long day of travel that included appearances in Pennsylvania, Bergen County and South Jersey.

Corzine was sitting in the front passenger seat of the black Chevy Tahoe, alongside his driver, Trooper Robert Rasinski, according to New Jersey State Police Superintendent Rick Fuentes. In the back sat Samantha Gordon, an aide who typically accompanies Corzine when he travels beyond the Statehouse.

It was not immediately clear if the governor or the others were wearing seat belts.

"The State Police will be addressing that in their investigation," Coley said.

The motorcade was headed north in the left lane just past mile marker 44 when a red pickup truck entered the road from the shoulder and crossed into the path of a white Dodge Ram truck, police said.

The Dodge then swerved in front of the governor's SUV, colliding with the Tahoe and sending it careening onto the highway median and into the metal guardrail, police said.

Jim Freund, a second lieutenant with the Great Bay Regional Volunteer EMS, arrived to see the governor's SUV teetering on the twisted guardrail and medical technicians removing Corzine on a backboard.

"He was conscious, but he was moaning," Freund said.


Corzine on breathing tube and facing long recovery”

“WELL THATS IT....too Dang many people hurt in car wrecks...time to get rid of cars....(

hey guys when we get to a point where a libbie (real libbie not the throw away like Imus) gets burned for saying something...can we tune up the FREEDOM OF SPEECH rants (LOL)?

Face it you libbies are hypocrites...Freedom of Speech got people MURDERED in Freedies Fashion Mart...but it was Al Baby's freedom of speech.

Here is how I deal with Imus, Dixie Chicks, Westover Baptist et al...I don't listen. If someone supports them...I don't patronize them...this is still a NO FASCIST (thats the meaning bonehead libbies) nation so I can choose where I spend my money.
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So when you grow up you can learn you to cannot control what other people say or do, you can only control the way you respond.


As for the friendly libbies at all the Major Media branches running for the High Grass...LOL...yeah but see, (very important here Vile baby go get a 5 year old to read it to you) THEY OWN THE FREAKING STATION they have a RIGHT to do as they wish.

Down in the Augusta Area in Georgia we have this shock jock (actually a former Federal Prisoner now on parole) who spreads his crap for a minority "religious" station in SC...Well Brian Lamont ("Ryan B") has been supported by his station as he has continued to spread his crap. They did nothing even when he started accusing the Sheriff and others of Committing crimes!. Well now the Station and Brian are finding out the results they will pay damages.

Now if the Radio Station is making more than they are paying out (ooops capitalisim rears its head) they will stay with him...if not they would be fools to keep him.”

“we continue to tolerate rapper disrespect of women. can someone please explain why Imus = bad, rapper = good does not equate to racism. isnt this double standard entirely rooted in culture, race and/or ethnicity?”

“Nappy headed ho.
So that caused such pain and distress as to warrant the end of a man's career?

Really?
And the lyrics and lifestyle espoused on the playlists typical of any hip-hop or R&B radio station is acceptable?

I assume this means that trash-talking in sports is now forbidden.

Way to choose meaningful battles.”

“Where is free speech when people speak against the war, you twit?”

“Hey what have I DONE...now Numblenutz that is not "have I hurt you feewings" by saying justifiably that I can see your hypocrisy in the support the troops crap, but WHAT HAVE I DONE..Damage wise to you?

ZIP ZERO NADA, Free Speech and Free Speech...but see libbies can't take that the only FREE SPEECH is FREE SPEECH THEY ESPOUSE....AND THERE IT IS

HOME RUN!!!! THE LIBBIE HYPOCRISY EXPOSED LIKE A COCKROACH IN THE KITCHEN COUNTER>>>>THE CROWD CHEERS>




the Libbies are


”

“If anybody should have been fired this past week its that Asst. DA down in North Carolina that went after the WHITE lacrosse players. But hey - he apologized so its all ok now - right?”

“The DA in NC is in for some _very_ hard times. Did you see Sharpton when some one called him on his treatment of the lacross players when accusations first emerged? He looked like a porcupine in attack position. He was not a happy camper.”

“he was supporting that stripper that rasied the FALSE allegations wasn't he?

there was never any evidence!”

“I merely called you a "twit", you dink.”

“dink?

double income no kids?”

“THEN WE HAVE~!

a Democratic fundraiser who is close to the Clintons, and a March 31 event in Miami that will be hosted by the musician Timbaland.

http://www.cqpolitics.com/2007/03/clinton_collects_cash_with_hus.html

And here is a sampling of his work.

A aint got no fillin,
Ama let these niggaz know,
A been killin em wit these beats,
Now am spittin dem killer flows,
Whatcha know bout me dog,
Not a damn thing,
Gotta problem u can c me in da streets dog,
Am on 1 man game,
Dont take this lightly,
If a want u dead its done,
A can make dat hype n b cuts,
Nigga ma bread is long,
A done been both sides of the tracks,

So with HILLY

Taking the extreme opposite stand is Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-N.Y.), who says she won't go on the show nor did she ever want to. A new feature prominently displayed on her campaign Web site shows a big photo of the Rutgers women's basketball team with the bold headline: "RESPECT FOR RUTGERS, Join Hillary in sending the young women of Rutgers a message of respect and support."

MESSAGE HERE - If you give me money I don't care what you say bout them (insert expletive)....

Duplicity is now rampant (LOL)”

“LOL...just found this video of a crack Democratic Defense Attorney in action


http://www.break.com/index/funny_dui_test.html”

“'TT'ger Whoes, all of you.”

“I am offended and am calling Jessie!
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“Don't call me Jessie.”

“Shirley you can't be serious?”

“I think my wife and I will buy a Buckwheat wig, a Rutgers jersey, and a cowboy hat. She can be a nappy headed ho and I can be Don Imus for Halloween.”