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How 'bout Upper Bum#&%!$??
last edited: 5/02/07 2:19:34 PM
mARKo
2:19:20 PM
5/02/07

I know where Spooner is.
LucyJones
2:23:47 PM
5/02/07

I live in the boonies about 15 miles north. My place is where the mailman makes a U turn and heads home; also the last house with electricity.
Nimblefoot
2:26:13 PM
5/02/07

A childhood friend, Rick Ertl used to live there. I think he worked for the county, his degree is in Natural Resource Management, as is mine.
LucyJones
2:29:32 PM
5/02/07

I have a private program for managing natural resources, specifically the deer herd. My specialty is culling for personal consumption.
Nimblefoot
2:33:16 PM
5/02/07

Do you follow the "If it's brown, it's down" code of ethics in your program?
LucyJones
2:37:50 PM
5/02/07

That was a trick question. Sorry, I can not accept your answer. It was a nice try. Upper is usually associated with the source. Rivers flow downward, so Lower is associated with the terminal part of the river.

"... the Upper Fox River that flows from central Wisconsin into Lake Winnebago, and the Lower Fox River that links Lake Winnebago with Green Bay." ...

"The Upper Fox River begins as a small stream northeast of Portage. It flows southwest towards that city and comes within 2 miles (3.2 km) of the Wisconsin River before quickly turning north. After flowing past Montello, the river goes northeast until reaching Lake Butte des Morts. Here it is joined by the tributary Wolf River before entering Lake Winnebago at Oshkosh. The Lower Fox begins at the north end of Lake Winnebago, where it flows north past Neenah, Menasha, and Appleton as it begins its 39 mile (64 km) course towards the Bay of Green Bay."
Fox River (Wisconsin)
bonecrusher
2:44:43 PM
5/02/07

Wow, bonecrusher. My answer was good enough! I live about a quarter of a mile from where the river continues out of north end of Lake Winnebago in Menasha. There, now you know where I live, you can stop by and see that I am not a troll!
LucyJones
2:48:23 PM
5/02/07

Nawww, not really. I talk about it to see what kind of reaction it elicits. The deer pretty much graze in my yard like cows. Thus far they've been perfectly safe and no matter how much I like venison, the trigger will probably not be pulled.
Nimblefoot
2:48:41 PM
5/02/07

Well, Nimblefoot, being educated on the topic, I am not opposed to deer management, but I myself could never pull the trigger.
LucyJones
2:49:53 PM
5/02/07

Hey Lucy,
I'm coming into this convo late, but, GO FOR IT! I've been camping my whole life, but only came into backpacking the last two years. After just three backpacks, I took my son out, after that, I soloed, it was awesome! Yeah I freaked my family out. My husband just barely let go of me at the trailhead, saying over and over, "this just ain't right". But he did, and I marched into the brush at 10pm in the dark with a bright moon, (yeah, late start), and I had the most wonderful trip.

SO DO IT!
Pamela
5:32:46 PM
5/02/07

Oooooh, a night mission!

I've done quite a few.
mARKo
6:08:14 PM
5/02/07

Moonlight on the rocks is beautiful!
Pamela
6:12:23 PM
5/02/07

I'll second that Pamela, especially in a place like Joshua Tree with the coyotes howling in the distance. *sighs*
MsDoolittle
7:26:11 PM
5/02/07

anywhere that has "big sky" and howling coyotes is tops in my books, too, msdoolittle!

tell us all about it when you get back lucy; i envy you your chutzpah...i get nervous going more than 4 hours from my car.

then again, i am going to the red river gorge with a bunch of TTers that i've never met AND am taking my 4 year-old scared-of-bugs daughter with me, so maybe i'm not such a chicken sh1t after all!
happyclicker
8:01:31 PM
5/02/07

You are all an inspiration to me! I promise to post an entire trip report and pictures. You have to wait until August though!
LucyJones
8:15:24 PM
5/02/07

Hey, you're in WI. I'm doing a low mileage (13 miles) loop with some newbies over Mother's Day in the Nicolet, just north of Eagle River. Looks to be all women and you're welcome to join us. My e-mail is in my profile if you're interested in putting some miles on sooner.
graska
8:32:36 PM
5/02/07

I recommend the Eagle River area trip, too. I just love things there. Anvil Lake and campground, just a little East of Eagle River, will be in my heart forever.

Have a great hike, graska.
bonecrusher
12:05:09 AM
5/03/07

Nimblefoot, please let us know if you need someone to remove some of your brown friends (I"m talking about the ones with the white tails).
Sassafras
6:54:40 AM
5/03/07

Solo backpacking and hiking is great - you get to go along at your own pace and really enjoy the beauty out there.

I understand the frustration with the lectures. Yesterday at lunch one of the guys I work with, who is letting cigarette smoking kill him, started telling one of the other guys how terrible it was that I went out solo sometimes. I proceeded to tell him how terrible it was that he smoked eventhough he knows it is killing him - he shut up.
wingding0
7:31:59 AM
5/03/07

Graska, I may just take you up on that. That sounds great!
Bonecrusher, I have a friend with a place on Anvil! Caught some beautiful walley and crappe there last year.
LucyJones
8:16:06 AM
5/03/07

WI. dweller myself right on the MI border noth of Green Bay. Did many solo trips on Isle Royale thru the years you will have a blast. We need to get this WI crew together for a hike
spalpeen
8:16:50 AM
5/03/07

Go for it Lucy. Solo is best. I would do a shakedown overnghter though. Best to find out about a leaky tent etc. when it is an easy fix.
steppenwolf
1:43:13 PM
5/03/07

spalpeen - Are you in Marinette?
Sure used to love the Menominee Silver Cream.


aka nowslimmer
last edited: 5/03/07 2:29:09 PM
bonecrusher
2:25:53 PM
5/03/07

lol. I get the same stuff from males too...esp. my father...my mother has given up talking to me on the subject. My honest advice is: buy a gun. Carry it on you when you backpack...and if that makes you wary, buy pepperspray instead and keep it handy.
sweetpeastu
2:26:56 PM
5/03/07

I agree with Dayhiker on the shake out trip.

My main suggestion, however, is that next time some guy gives you grief about going, ask him if any of his friends hike. If he says yes, tell him "OK, you've convinced me - I need to bring pepper spray." If no, then let him know you can't take his opinion seriously.
PedXing
2:46:48 PM
5/03/07

then again, i am going to the red river gorge with a bunch of TTers that i've never met AND am taking my 4 year-old scared-of-bugs daughter with me, so maybe i'm not such a chicken sh1t after all!”
happyclicker
9:01:31 PM
5/02/07

LMAO
chili
3:36:49 PM
5/03/07

My honest advice is: buy a gun. Carry it on you when you backpack...and if that makes you wary, buy pepperspray instead and keep it handy.”
sweetpeastu
1:26:56 PM
5/03/07

your kidding right? pepperspray, ok, but a gun? that sounds like the best way to get yourself hurt, really.

One TT'er I know used to say she carried a stun gun, but I never saw it - I believed her though. Prolly not a bad idea.

but not a real gun - illegal in national parks and like I said - probably the best way to get yourself shot.
Roam Around
5:09:42 PM
5/03/07

Anyone that afraid should consider another form of recreation.
Nimblefoot
5:15:46 PM
5/03/07

I've never met anyone on the trails that I was afraid of.
Pamela
5:49:18 PM
5/03/07

Welcome aboard and good luck, 6 days seems a bit long for the first time, but you will learn a lot in that time and will always have the memories.
fingerlakeshiker
5:57:35 PM
5/03/07

The Anvil Trail will be my next trip, I'm doing Hidden Lakes. (See Eric Hansen's Hiking WI.pg. 90) I'l love to get a trip going and combine these two trails. Or, I'd like to combine Escanaba with Lumberjack. I know I have to get more miles together before I can post a trip up here. Of course there are SO many hiking opportunities and rivers to play in; a person could just set up a car camping location and play everywhere. Everyone can camp in my yard! I have a lake on one side and a 18 mile bike trail across the street!
graska
9:16:03 PM
5/03/07


Just pack this puppy. I can almost guarantee you won't be molested.

chili
11:29:55 PM
5/03/07

Just pack this puppy. I can almost guarantee you won't be molested
Does that come in an ultra light model?
windigrrl
11:32:33 PM
5/03/07

Fortunately, I'm not scared, it's everyone around me that is. I'm not too concerned with the length of the trip. I went on a 6 day whitewater rafting trip through the Frank Church River of No Return Wilderness last summer. Being that deep into the middle of nowhere was awesome! I love that feeling of being so remote. I hadn't felt that since my stint in Glacier back in 92. I had forgotten what it felt like and now I crave it!
LucyJones
8:39:44 AM
5/04/07

BTW, the guy giving me the most grief is a gun collector. Go figure.
LucyJones
8:40:42 AM
5/04/07

I went on a 6 day whitewater rafting trip through the Frank Church River of No Return Wilderness last summer
LucyJones


I'm very jealous!
Roam Around
9:28:27 AM
5/04/07

Oh man, it was INCREDIBLE. Most amazing vacation of my life. Swam twice though, didn't like that. 42 degree water whipping you downstream. Very scary. never comprehended the sheer power of water until that day.
LucyJones
9:40:57 AM
5/04/07

It is really important to make sure all of your gear works really well, that you know how to repair your water filter, etc. The first trip I ever did on Isle Royale our filter clogged hopelessly, our stove went up in four foot high flames and a water taxi to Rock Harbor to buy replacements was going to cost $60 one way (and that was just from eight trail miles away at Daisy Farm) and with the national park tax the replacements would have cost about 3x what they would have at home. Fortunately, there were more experienced hikers around who helped us figure out our problems.
Isle Royale is an excellent place to feel like you're in the middle of no where, but with all the docks at the campsites help is close by if needed.
Sassafras
9:54:21 AM
5/04/07

Refer to the Guns Are Evil thread...
roseymonster
9:59:27 AM
5/04/07

Last Saturday night I was becoming familiar with my Katadyn filter (yes, I have an exciting social life) and it broke. So, I will definately give all of my equipment a test run. Most if it has already been used on camping trips and my boots are well broken in. I walk everyday with my pack on, loaded with 30lbs and blankets. I plan to hit the steep, rocky inclines at High Cliff State Park many times between now and my trip with weighted pack on.
LucyJones
10:09:22 AM
5/04/07

your gonna do great!
Roam Around
10:18:45 AM
5/04/07

yep you is. And you'll love the island.
Sassafras
10:21:26 AM
5/04/07

I'm jealous Lucy, I wish I had working knees!
Pamela
1:58:25 PM
5/04/07

Actually Pamela, that is the one thing I am worried about. I have weak knees and tend to strain them. That is why I have been walking with my pack on and why I am going to do some steep trail training before I go. I can deal with gear failure, but there's not much you can do about your knees in the backcountry.
LucyJones
2:14:39 PM
5/04/07

Lucy, this may be the reason to take someone then. I lucked out the time I soloed. My knee didn't bother me. I am suffering now though. I never know when it will kick in. I do know how much I can take. I hiked about 12 miles in severe pain with a locked knee, but I was with a friend that time and my phone was working, so I could have called someone if I had wanted to. Do you know how far you can push it?
Pamela
2:20:29 PM
5/04/07

Your doing all the right things - my knees used to really bother me, but as I built up my overall strength and got my body more accustomed to carrying the pack load over distance the knee issues disapeared.
Roam Around
2:29:42 PM
5/04/07

Yeah, Roam Around, that sounds like me. In high school my knees would bother me a little. Other than that I never had a problem until I was out in Glacier. My knees had no experience on hills and going down was what did it. I strained a knee on my first hike out there. Took about 10 days to heal and after that I never had another problem..until recently. I am now 35 and was doing an exercise video and started having problems. I think I hyper-extended my knee doing kicks and it hurt for about a month. So, I don't really have chronic problems, but I also don't want to injure myself when it can be prevented.
LucyJones
2:35:45 PM
5/04/07

Trekking poles are your best friends.
treebait
2:43:00 PM
5/04/07

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