HEY MATT - About those "Terms of Partici pation"

“Hey matt - I've emailed you before about XL's repeated use of racist terms and provided you with examples. They are a clear violation of your terms of participation (Posts that demean a country, nation, religion, or particular group of people).

Here is a recent one that I find highly offensive: http://www.thebackpacker.com/trailtalk/thread/47428,1.php#1564393

Are you serious about enforcing your own rules or are we to assume that you condone such language?
last edited: 5/09/07 8:59:26 PM”

“yawn”

“I say we pass the hat and help old Violin out with his problem.”

“I don't see XL demeaning an ethnic group on that post. He is accusing others of demeaning someone over ethnicity for not "knowing his place."

I complained once about a horrible slur XL used (and which I confronted him about) - but this isn't one.”

“Ahem...[shaking hat at Ped]...come on brother, let's help him out. We don't need too much money. We only need enough to buy the little pair for V.
last edited: 5/09/07 9:53:27 PM”

“daddy, XL's touching me again!!!”

“Shouldn't this thread be fuego?

Does this mean I should report:

BB for his writings about the French?
Mutt for his writings about Christians?
Various slurs against dumb, southern rednecks by various folks?
Dayhiker's slurs against dumba$$ architects like arclite?
chili, Ewker, and longlosthikers slurs against all that is great and wonderful like University of Alabama football?”

“...stupid southern redneck”

“Karma will some day use XLax's head for a mop and his butt for a broom.

Pity the fool.............

I understand the frustration with the guy.
He is never wrong and is a chicken punk with a keyboard.”

“kind of like..., hum,....sarge?”

“Looks like Violin just got owned!”

“Let's not forget those dumb Northern New England and Northern New York hillbillies, now boys.

And let's not forget Quebec and the Maritimes yokels.

And then Nimblefoot is a man apart.”

“Mutt for his writings about Christians?

The truth isn't a slur.”

“Punk”

“Hippy Doofus.”

“I'd rather have someone call me a Northern idiot than break my frickin foot. Stupid STUPID STUPID SOUTHERN kid. I never said redneck though. =)”

“Hugs”

“not drugs?”

“Coffee?”

“jebus cripes. i lean left on alot of things, and i think xl says alot of stupid stuff, but i dont think he was being racist here. he wasnt calling alberto a spic, he was saying the liberal left treats him like a spic. move on, cracker”

“LOL@crashbang - this keeps getting better and better. I'd hate to be violin right now.”

“...or any time”

“This is one of those TT pranks, right?”

“I actually agree with Violin. Civility has taken a considerable slide around TT lately. Heck, for the past couple of years for that matter.”

“Seeing as how violin has cried to Matt like a little sissy over and over again, I fail to see how this would serve him well as a prank.”

“one good thing about 3 certain people being gone the feugo threads aren't at the top of the list much anymore..that is a positive even though they do provide a lot of humor”

“i think the civility level has raised overall without the presence of he-who-shall-not-be-named”

“I agree with CB.”

“of course you do. all sensible people do”

“LOL...crash...I misplaced my program...who am I supposed to P!ss off today?

LOL...Marky mark...and Vile baby, I am not a racist (please show me one place where I have stated one race is superior to another).

I believe all people are capable of exceeding any self imposed "limits" on themselves. My anger or disgust comes when a person fails to even TRY to succeed. Then they blame another party for their own incompetence, ignorance and failure.

Victimhood is the easiest dodge in the world. It saddens me when you sell out as a victim too easily. There are some who know the horrifying crisis I am facing right now. IT is very alluring to take the victim route but I refuse to. In fact I truly believe that each challenge is made to make us stronger IF we believe and trust in the eventual outcome.

I make fun of the libbies since they are permenant victims. I make fun of the silly little people (in mind and spirit) not the height challenged. Remember Failure is the only ASSURED objective. You can work like a a caged badger for success, do everything exactly as you need to to succeed...and still not succeed. Failure you can make everytime you want.”

““I actually agree with Violin. Civility has taken a considerable slide around TT lately. Heck, for the past couple of years for that matter.”
treebait

The reason it seems like TT is less civil is that there are more conservatives now than in the past. Used to be it was considered to be just clean fun for the liberals to treat anyone who disagreed as a fascist thumb-sucking neanderthal who it was less worth treating civilly than you would a poo slinging monkey in a zoo. Sure, there were conservatives around back then but they were more like pets than someone you took seriously.

You need to pull up some early threads. I was just looking at one from 2001 that makes XL's comments look like kindergarten smack.”

“You missed the point.”

“Isn't that the reason most of us started hanging out here to begin with?

So, someone said something crude. Like you've never done that before? We all love to get on our soapboxes -- especially over in the Fuego corner. Get over yourself and guess what? Life goes on.

Matt's a genius for never interfering in these conversations

...unless he does it as a troll. Then, he's even more genius.”

“LOL...Good one Phantom that suck up ought to save you a few more weeks....

I always notice the people who lose their sense of humor get bit(hy first.”

“TT is a love/hate thing with me.

The BS is fun at first but after a while I hit my threshold and I get sick of the BS and back off and lurk. My BS quota gets below my threshold and I'm back.”

“best thing to do is to stay off the fuego threads. It's accepted that they are anything goes threads so if you go therr and get your feelings hurt, just STFU and stop going there.”

“One problem is some people can't keep their piehole spew confined to fuego threads.”

“true, but thats what I love about TT :)”

“Goodie for you. ;P”

“XL was deliberately using a racist term to provoke a reaction.
He phrased it carefully, but deliberately.

The idea is that the 'liberals' will then respond to him and he will call them 'racist'. It's not new and I think most people can see through him.”

“"LOL...Marky mark...and Vile baby, I am not a racist (please show me one place where I have stated one race is superior to another)."
XL

I am not a racist nor is Violin.

Can you stop insinuating or outright accusing that we are?

Your karma is in the toilet, DannyDan.
Will you ever redeem yourself?”

“Oh goodie, Y2 can read XL's mind

Time to put on my tin foil hat ROTFLOL”

“Manuka - read they guy's postings he does it fairly frequently. S*%ge used to do it all the time too.

You can also hear it being done on 'News Talk' radio stations and read about it in the world of the right-wing blogs.”

“One problem is some people can't keep their piehole spew confined to fuego threads.”
treebait

EXACTLY!”

“The beautiful thing about TT is that it has an ignore user function. I only have 2 peeps on mine, sarge and buddha bear. Sarge apparently finally used up his 9 lives, but buddha bear stills spews his hate speech from time to time. But I don't complain about it because I DON'T SEE IT.”

“Reading "that guy's" posts is like reading or hearing the latest(same tired old lies and half-truths) right-wing rants online or on radio.

One such rant goes something like this......

Everyone knows that "liberals love terrorists and want America to surrender to the terrorists".
Terrorists hate Jews.
Therefore, "liberals hate Jews".

Our dear boy is using Jews to bash liberals.

Maybe he was mistreated as a child or he is just a spoiled brat punk who is used to pushing people around.

I'm reminded of Johnny Cash's song "Oney".”

“hyways assertion that the hate only comes from the left is ridiculous. hate comes from the extremists more than the middle, but it doesnt come from the left more than from the right, and vice versa”

“Hey! Isn't that a personal attack, or is that not an offense listed in the Rules of Participation. ;) To be honest, I never read them. :)”

“one thing that ive noticed (and this is just a general trend, not that they all do it), is that conservative commentors will lump all libs together and say things like "libs support terrorists" "libs hate america". liberal commentors tend to call out individuals, and since their attacks are more individual, are perceived as being more hateful”

“i called your assertion ridiculous. i did not call you ridiculous. therefore, not a personal attack”