Ron Paul

“I voted for bush (meaning against kerry and gore) and that didn't work out so grand, did it? I Never took you as a lock stepper mutt. You have always struck me as a free thinker. In the end would my vote make that much difference?”

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“I Never took you as a lock stepper mutt. - Nigal

I'm a pragmatist.

In the end would my vote make that much difference?

It's not you personally, Nigal. You're not a stupid person. It's the ideas, however, that are, and those ideas are apparently held by a lot of disaffected conservative/libertarians. The general election is not the time to teach the republicans a lesson - the cost is too high.”

“BTW - as bad as Bush has been, Kerry and Gore would've been worse.”

“I voted for bush (meaning against kerry and gore) and that didn't work out so grand, did it? I Never took you as a lock stepper mutt. You have always struck me as a free thinker. In the end would my vote make that much difference?”
nigal
11:47:55 AM
5/14/08

Worked out well for me.”

“So after reading this, the real queastion when it comes to voting, to me at least, is where should one's priorities be: with oneself or with the people?

How can you vote for a candidate who doesn't share an iota of your core beliefs? When is it okay to hold your nose and compromise your principles? Personally, I can't stand any of the candidates (again) and am tired of voting against people. So do I vote for me or for the majority? What did the Founding Fathers intend?”

“It's all about blindly following the party.”

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Nigal's head”

“For some (mostly here on TT, lol) that's true but I don't think that's what Mutt was advocating.”

“if you are voting your principles then you are voting for self interest. Nothing wrong with that, but if thats what you are doing then you need to look at the three candidates (Obama/McCain/Paul) and ask yourself where would putting your vote best protect your self interests. I think we are all grown up enough to know that voting for Paul in this election will not get him elected President. And its pretty obvious that the choice the democrats will put up will attempt a radical redirection of our countries path. The republican candidate some say is pretty much the same direction we have been going the last decade or so. Neither party will make the government smaller, one will tax us to death, the other borrow us to teh same place.

Not much of a choice, but at least the republican way rewards self achievement while the democrats penalizes.”

“What did the Founding Fathers intend
I think they meant to coordinate the states rather than command to them, otherwise , we would live in America with States.”

“No argument there, but do you ever see us going back to pre-civil war style government. A vote for Paul only hurts McCain. It will have no effect on the Obama vote. So you aren't washing your hands of both parties just republicans. So when you vote for Paul the net effect is to assist Obama. Maybe you guys can find the nadir voters and form a new party.”

“I feel what's in my best interests are also best for everyone. If I was just looking out for me I'd vote Obama and get everything from the gumbmint.”

“you'd only get it if you stopped being successful and being in control of your own life. Is that really in your self interest. I don't see you as the type to take”