Kayak/Canoe Question

“A group of novices are planning a "Deliverence" weekend sans the pig aspect and I cannot quite remember how many mph you can go on a flat (calm) river.

I am looking at doing the Broad River from US221 in NC to SC9 at Lockhart. Several dams to portage around but it's all fun.

Anyone have a good idea on the speed for a leisurely pace?”

“I'D FIGURE 3-4 mph. plus think about stoppimg fopr pee breaks and eating lunch and swimming”

“I would say 2 mph is a more realistic number on flat water.”

“i agree with the 2 mph on flat water. harder to paddle and watch out for those head winds.”

“slow pokes!”

“I'd say the trolling motor on my Old Town Tripper would push ten MPH. 36 lbs of thrust!”

“I hate kayaking on a lake. I think I will get one of those sails for my yak LOL”

“I think in a Yak we can do an easy 3 to 4 mph...but more sustainable especially with Canoes is 2.”

“well I find that I hike and kayak rather slow. I like to take my time and take tons of pics and just look at eavrything. so yes I guess i am a slow poke and darn proud of it :D”

“Thank you for the opinions and I feel I will use 3 mph because there is some current as it is not all slack water.

Depending on the start/stop point we will have a dam to portage or two.”

“Yerby, were not done. Have a seat, this could take awhile.....”

“Yeah I'm waiting for the banter”

“One more thing that MAY have some bearing. One of my favorite local rivers usually has a prevailing headwind when paddling downstream. It is generally easier to paddle up than down. This may factor in for you as well.”

“I know nothing about spray skirts. after this weekend, I learned I really need one. the rapids were a BLAST but the water made the kayak heavy and I was in fear on tipping over.
any suggestions? plus I hope to get it at campmore (i have a $100.00 gift card there)

thanks”

“From the Campmor website......

Our staff of experienced canoeists and kayakers is able to outfit you with the best paddling gear. We carry a large selection of canoe and kayak paddles, pfds, sprayskirts, drybags, safety gear and so much more. Please note that our canoes and kayaks are only available for in store pick up at our Paramus location and are not able to be shipped.

Just tell the Campmor people which kayak model and what type of use it's for and they will fix you up.
last edited: 8/07/07 10:41:50 AM”

“Buy TWO, a FULL SKIRT, and a HALF Skirt...

The half skirt will protect your legs from the sun, the occasional rogue wave from boat wakes or the sub-class 2 rapid....and the BIGGEST REASON: It VENTS the hot air from the boat behind the seat.

Neat added bonus is a net pocket for gear storage on your lap and a cup/waterbottle holder .....”

“thank you troll that is what I was looking for.”

“I want to upgrade my fleet this spring. My dilemma is what to get. I have a solo canoe and two tandems. I typically paddle moderate whitewater as well as easy camping floats (Buffalo River) The solo canoe I have is not well suited to harsh white water. It has little or no rocker and burys the nose easily in waves. I want either a kayak that I can use for overnight floats (Storage) as well as some white water or a Mad River OutrageX or similar canoe. http://www.madrivercanoe.com/outrage-x

I welcome any and all usefull input”

“I'm a kayak guy myself. I only wish I had the experience to answer your question.”

“The problem with the Mad River in white Water is that it all the "cargo room" is taken for air filled flotation bags roped into both the bow and stern...if you want to use which ever for both rough water AND camping, suggest you look at kayaks...

(Opinions Vary - ask the same question on Paddling.net).

Ever consider a Sit obn Top Yak?...not good for Northern Clime Winter weather but plenty of gear storage and there are some models that provide for Rough Water utility.....”

“HbH:

Since you're in Arkansas, I'd suggest posting your question on the Arkansas Canoe Club message board forums.

www.arkansascanoeclub.com

I'm a whitewater kayaker and one of my three 'yaks is a Prijon Chopper that I use for overnight trips.

There are quite a number of "recreational" type kayaks that have storage as well as some hybrid variants with storage like the Dagger Approach that can be used for mild whitewater.
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