Sicko

“ "IF we were backpacking and I kept telling you we had a food shortage but I was chowing down each time you turn around....What would you think?"

I could care less, unless you were trying to eat my food.
Then I would tie your ass to an anthill and pull out your fingernails.”

“The system is damaged ( I agree) but I do not agree in turning over 1/7th of the national GNP to NON Responsive Government Cogs who will make worse decisions than the insurance guys doing it today.
XL

LOL, that's one of the points Dr. Gupta made last night...he said you dog on our government every chance you get and now you want to hand our health care over to them?”

“Everyone is a critic to those that DO something.”

“i'm not a critic of WHAT he is doing, i'm a critic of HOW he is doing it...he's just such a prick he turns people off and he's border line conspiracy theories are just main stream enough for people to take him seriously
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“Moore isn't alone in trying to make sense of problems that(for their size and complexity) have no solution. He does try to bring things out into view unlike the wallets that hide in the shadows sucking the overwhelmed masses dry. Experiment USA has gotten to the same cross roads as Iraq. Split into three pieces each or explode.”

“WOW...so Cliff...you are saying right now is WORSE than say 1861?

(LOL)....My concern with the Government running ANYTHING is that it is subject to the whims of the power brokers. I do not want my health, your health or anyone's health MANAGED by a group that may change year to year.

Government is by all evidence totally unaccountable. At least with the HMO if there is a big screw up there is the potential for lawsuits. Heck in Georgia we have and Insurance Commisioner who will hit the Insurance companies if there is a problem.

Taking Government into the photo takes the HMO down a darker path.

I guess I rate the success of government by HOW many people NO longer need assistance.”

“You're talking to someone that has never had a job. My own enterprise has been my life , so, I understand capitalism as well as any. But , because of that I know that the gov working with biz never works and infact believe that even the worst of gov can't hide behind imaginary competition as the brakes to runaway fleecing necessary for even the slightest of balance. This country is too big and needs to be divided so the great 'USA experiment' can use one of the great tenets of capitalism-Competition.”

“Maybe if the government offical was subject to Chinese style punishment we'd have zero problems.”

“Until the laws change and allow individuals to sue HMO's the danger of lawsuits is nil. The insurance commissioner is only as good as the honesty and integrity of the person in office. To me that is scary. While I am not a fan of frivolous lawsuits, there is something to be said for exposure to the courts.”

“Heck in Georgia we have and Insurance Commisioner who will hit the Insurance companies if there is a problem.
xl

LOL, tell me about it...my company has had all kinds of problmes in that state and in MS...stupid southern red neck hicks ;)”

“the insurance industry is one of the most regulated ones there is and the state departments of insurance are very strict...every insurance company takes DOI complaints very seriously...the majority of complaints stem from people not understanding their policy...most believe their policy provides more or better benefits than it actually does...i don't really think the insurance companies are the big issue, i think it's more about health care for all”

“Watch it for free and screw Jaba Moore...

Clicky”

“I read an article in a magazine yesterday about a crime becoming more widespead called medical identity theft. Thieves steal your social security number and rack up all kinds of medical bills in your name. It can be worse than regular identity theft because you can be labeled as having AIDS or some other condition on top of trying to straighten out the mess between many providers. It can max out your lifetime cap as well. It said one third of Fortune 500 companies have started asking to see medical records first before they make job offers. Fake social security cards can be purchased for as little as $20 in some places. Hospitals have started asking for picture ID before providing services.
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“Have you seen that you can get identity theft insurance now? Crazy!”

“Often times what thrifty said is true....we had a lady whose house burned down. BIG A house...she had gotten a "sweet deal" on insurance but it was NOT for Replacement value.

I guess my problem with demanding universal health care is "How many other things do we want the Government to provide for us?" or better..."How many other things do we want people we don't trust to handle in our lives?"”

“Mr Cheese Wiz gets pounded by Dr. Gupta on Larry King Live...

Pounding Part 1
Pounding Part 2
Pounding Part 3”

“WHAHHAHA....here you go

McCreith, a resident of Newmarket, north of Toronto, suffered a seizure last year. He was told in Canada he would have to wait more than four months for an MRI to rule out a malignant tumor.

Rather than wait, McCreith, 66, quickly arranged a trip to Buffalo for a scan. The MRI confirmed his worst fears — a cancerous growth that a Buffalo neurosurgeon removed a few weeks later.

“If I had been patient, I’d probably be disabled or dead today,” McCreith said.

http://www.buffalonews.com/home/story/129344.html


I think this must have been SLICKED over by the Libbies.....”

“It's been 49 days since my PET scan.”

“One could never find similar occurrences in this country.”

“http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=471617&in_page_id=1770



Woman of 108 told to wait 18 months for hearing aid
By STEVE DOUGHTY and NICK McDERMOTT

A woman aged 108 has been told she must wait 18 months before the Health Service will give her the hearing aid she needs.

Former piano teacher Olive Beal, one of the oldest people in Britain, has poor eyesight and uses a wheelchair.

The delay could mean she will be unable to communicate and listen to the music she loves.


Now her family have said that realistically Mrs Beal is unlikely ever to receive the digital hearing aid that will save her from isolation.

The one-time suffragette is one of hundreds of thousands of older people made to wait up to two years and sometimes more for modern digital hearing aids that make a dramatic difference to their ability to hear and communicate.

The case of Mrs Beal comes just a few days after the Mail revealed how another centenarian, Esme Collins, has been threatened with eviction from the nursing home where she has lived for ten years in a dispute between home owners and the local council over her fees.

The Daily Mail's Dignity for the Elderly campaign has highlighted the way the elderly are made to pay high bills while their needs and interests are sidelined in the system meant to care for them.

Mrs Beal, who lives in a care home in Deal in Kent, has used an old-fashioned analogue hearing aid for the last five years.

She has now been assessed as needing a more modern digital hearing aid which cuts out background noise and makes it easier to hear conversation or music. These cost around £1,000 on the private market.

But Eastern and Coastal Kent Primary Care Trust have told her family she must wait 18 months before she gets one on the NHS. By then Mrs Beal will be aged 110.

She said yesterday: 'I could be dead by then.'

Her grand- daughter Maria Scott, 52, said: 'I spoke to her doctor some time ago about getting her a new hearing aid, as the existing one did not seem to be working for her.

'After a hearing test they said, "Yes, she does need a digital hearing aid, but there is an 18-month waiting list".

'I would have thought they would take her age into account as she probably has not got 18 months to wait.

'Olive worked hard from the age of 16 to her late 60s and paid taxes. She has been healthy all her life and lived with her daughter until 15 years ago - she has never sponged off the state.

'Her eyesight is falling, and if she cannot hear then she will be isolated from the outside world.

'Her analogue hearing aid does not filter out background noise so it makes it very difficult for her to hear clearly. But the digital one would allow her to hear people talking to her and to CDs. She loves music hall numbers.'

Mrs Beal went to school in London with Christabel Pankhurst, daughter of suffragette leader Emily, and helped at suffragette demonstrations.

She brought up four children but only her eldest son, now in his eighties, survives.

Her youngest son was a World War Two soldier killed in Normandy on the day after the D-Day landings. She was widowed 45 years ago. Donna Tipping of the Royal National Institute for the Deaf said: 'I am afraid this is a common problem.

'In some parts of the country waiting times are more than two years, which is shocking.

'The new digital hearing aids can really transform people's lives.

'It is an issue of quality of life, with isolation, frustration and withdrawing from society caused by loss of hearing, and it is sad because this is reversible.'

A spokesman for Eastern and Coastal Kent Primary Care Trust said: 'We are reducing waiting times.

'The priority is given to patients who do not have an existing hearing aid, but we accept our service needs improving.

We apologise to any patient kept waiting for a new or replacement hearing aid.”

“When Moore can get the 'libby twins' riled up he's doing his job.”

“Libbies are so silly.”

“Whaaaat?”

““When Moore can get the 'libby twins' riled up he's doing his job.”
uncliff
8:15:08 AM
7/30/07
ignore this user

Hey - we refer to them around here as the "Axis of idiots", although "Libbie Twins" sounds like a hilarious subset!”

“Now bubba bear, talking about yourself, mArKo, and violin, isn't nice.”

“Now now...stovie we are trying to shy away from negative personal attacks. LOL....I know how easy it is though.....We all know evidence and facts are mean things to use.”

“TT Fact

Productivity at stovestomper's place of employement INCREASED after his unfortunate stroke.
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“
Anybody catch 60 Minutes last night?

Repeat of a classic: the passage of the Tauzin-Bush Pharma Rip-off Bill.

Somebody shoplifts a bottle of shampoo in this country and goes to jail --- Tauzin and his pals sell us out to Pharma for billions and are richly rewarded.

Then some imbicilic bozos will defend it.  Watch:

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“I'm off today, Ha Ha.
What's bubba bear's excuss?

Oh bubba, 'unfortuante' is not spelled that way.
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“Axis of Idiots comments, TAKE #1...........”

“Some former politician becomes an UNREGISTERED Lobbyist (tilt that means they gave him money and he presented their name positivly to the government) and his WIFE is hilariously on the other side.....

NADA< ZIP ZERO (etc etc) happens to him.”

“Take #2..........”

“QED.”

“Quacks, Eggheads and Dipschits?”

“Hey bubba, ol' tiltypoo dislikes people that post during working hours. He has threatened to turn people that post in to their employers. He might turn you in!
LOL”

“I'm waiting for my MRI's (on my knees). I blew my knees (again) refereeing high school rugby in May. My MRI's would have happened while I was away in WA State on Rainier with the Boneheads and I've been busy helping my best buddy with haying and will call this afternoon to reschedule - 3 to 6 weeks.

Once that's done I'll set up an appointment with my surgeon - Dr. Coughling who is the Montreal Canadiens' head doctor and one of the best in the world. All doctors have to put in a percentage of donkey time and I'm the donkey.

I'll be able to resume training, refereeing and all activities in a couple of months.

Not bad for an impoverished, newly retired country school teacher, eh?

Canada's full, BTW.”

“Completely Full?   (damn!)”

“I'm trying to marry a Canadian girl, you can still get in that way!”

“Great news, Gremlin!”

“Pity the fool that rallys 'round Michael Moore. You will someday distance yourself farther from him than you will your ninth grade photograph.”

“Hey, I still remember some French from highschool.....”

“Pity the fool that rallys 'round Michael Moore. You will someday distance yourself farther from him than you will your ninth grade photograph.”
gojo
10:12:07 AM


Like that Cindy S. gal, Mother Moonbat, that few Dems want to talk about now? Ha Ha Ha!!!
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“Comment c'est va Tilt?”

“Pity the fool that rallys 'round Michael Moore. You will someday distance yourself farther from him than you will your ninth grade photograph.”
gojo
9:12:07 AM
7/30/07

Another ringing endorsement to go see the film!”

“What film?”

“C'est bon.

Frappe la rue, Jacques!

(et ne retourn pas encore, encore, encore, encore...)”

“LOL...Ah yes...the heroic French Culture

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“Why are you all so afraid of the big bad movie maker?”

“Not even bubba bear will defend poor Cindy now. LOL”

“
Hit's Them Hollywud Tipes!

Thar eeeevul.

Weed ruther pey Twenny Tymes whut tha docterrin iz wurth thn hadmitt Mikl More iz write bout ENNYthang.

HEK~! yw Awlreddy Nowe weed ruther spark uh Wore an kil uh bazillion peepl thn hadmit ennythang lyk at!! Tha docterrin thang ain't nuthin.

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