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Questions About a Governor’s Fall



It is extremely disturbing that Don Siegelman, the former governor of Alabama, was hauled off to jail this week. There is reason to believe his prosecution may have been a political hit, intended to take out the state’s most prominent Democrat, a serious charge that has not been adequately investigated. The appeals court that hears his case should demand answers, as should Congress.

The United States attorneys scandal has made clear that partisan politics is a driving force in the Bush Justice Department. Top prosecutors were fired for refusing to prosecute Democrats or for not bringing baseless vote-fraud cases to help Republicans. Lawyers were improperly hired based on party affiliation.

If the Justice Department was looking to help Republicans in Alabama, putting away Mr. Siegelman would be a shrewd move. In a state short on popular Democrats, he was elected governor in 1998. He was defeated for re-election in 2002 by just a few thousand votes, in an election marred by suspicious vote tabulations.

The charges Mr. Siegelman was convicted of suggest that he may have been a victim of selective prosecution. He was found to have named a prominent Alabama businessman to a state board in exchange for a contribution to a campaign fund for a state lottery, something Mr. Siegelman supported to raise money for his state’s woefully inadequate public schools. He was not found to have taken any money for himself and many elected officials name people who have given directly to their own campaigns to important positions. The jury dismissed 25 of the original 32 counts against Mr. Siegelman.

The most arresting evidence that Mr. Siegelman may have been railroaded is a sworn statement by a Republican lawyer, Dana Jill Simpson. Ms. Simpson said she was on a conference call in which Bill Canary, the husband of the United States attorney whose office handled the case, insisted that “his girls” would “take care of” Mr. Siegelman. According to Ms. Simpson, he identified his “girls” as his wife, Leura Canary, and another top Alabama prosecutor. Mr. Canary, who has longstanding ties to Karl Rove, also said, according to Ms. Simpson, that he had worked it out with “Karl.”

The idea of federal prosecutors putting someone in jail for partisan gain is shocking. But the United States attorneys scandal has made clear that the Bush Justice Department acts in shocking ways. We hope that the appeals court that hears Mr. Siegelman’s case will give it the same hard look that another appeals court recently gave the case of Georgia Thompson. Ms. Thompson, a low-level employee in a Democratic administration in Wisconsin, was found to have been wrongly convicted of corruption by another United States attorney.

Congress, though, should not wait. It should insist that Mr. Canary and everyone on the 2002 call, as well as Mrs. Canary and Mr. Rove, testify about the Siegelman prosecution. In standing by Attorney General Alberto Gonzales throughout the attorneys scandal, the Bush administration has made clear that it does not care about the integrity of the Justice Department. By investigating Mr. Siegelman’s case, Congress can show that it does.

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/06/30/opinion/30sat2.html?ei=5090&en=6522ac53b9fc2a90&ex=1340856000&partner=rssuserland&emc=rss&pagewanted=print
violin
8:50:31 AM
6/30/07

"The idea of federal prosecutors putting someone in jail for partisan gain is shocking."

Scooter Libby anyone? LOL


This subject was already covered in the Corruption thread. Old News.
Vile had to wait for the Left's talking points to post.
last edited: 6/30/07 9:01:17 AM
StoveStomper
8:55:23 AM
6/30/07


------ Miss Piggy Has Lost His Mind -------



December 3, 2007
Rove Blames War on Daschle (Bill Press)
@ 8:03 am

If you ever suspected Karl Rove was nuts, now you know he is. Ever since escaping the asylum, hes been running around like a madman, blaming the Iraq war on Democrats.

He started it on Charlie Rose. He repeated it on Fox News Sunday. Back in 2002, he says, President Bush was in no hurry to go to war. He wanted to give U.N. inspectors more time. But Democrats in Congress, led by Rep. Tom Daschle (S.D.), insisted on scheduling a vote on Iraq in October 2002, before the midterm elections.

Its an interesting theory. Theres only one problem with it: It is absolutely, totally, no-doubt-about-it FALSE. Former White House Press Secretary Ari Fleischer was on the scene at the time. Like all the rest of us, he remembers well who was driving the issue. It was definitely the Bush administration that set it in motion and determined the timing, not the Congress, insists Fleischer. I think Karl in this instance just has his facts wrong.

Indeed. As we all remember, it was George Bush who forced U.N. inspectors out of Iraq. It was officers of the Bush White House who publicly attacked Hans Blix. And, when he sent the war resolution to Congress, it was George Bush himself who said: Weve got to move before the elections meaning the midterm elections of November 2002.

Whatever you think about this war, one thing is certain: It is George Bushs war. He started it, he directed it, he screwed it up, and now he cant find his way out of it.

For Karl Rove to try to re-invent history by blaming the timing of the war on Tom Daschle its nuts.



I say drop a net on him and hold him for observation.
Tilt
9:51:46 PM
12/03/07

Well if he had brought up 8 years of ignoring a growing problem......Daschle...LOL the Democratic Pit Yorkie
XL400236
4:56:35 AM
12/04/07

Talk about Joseph Goebbels and the Big Lie ---- I'm just hoping he wasn't this insane when he was in the White House.

It would explain a few things, though, wouldn't it?
Tilt
6:29:42 AM
12/04/07

The BIG Lie....hmm...

I promise you I did not have sex with that woman, Ms. Lewinski. [b]
XL400236
7:12:14 AM
12/04/07

What about when Clinton? # 695330
salebored
7:22:41 AM
12/04/07

*Yawn*
StoveStomper
7:23:38 AM
12/04/07

Karl just isn't worth the keybored wear when one can bring up Klentoones.Ah?
salebored
8:24:44 AM
12/04/07

LOL>..you sure you aren't a defense attorney?
XL400236
10:49:40 AM
12/04/07

sale thinks the problem in Iraq began when Bush was elected and that Clinton's policies had no impact.
hyway
11:04:56 AM
12/04/07

Iraq should have stayed in Kuwait, then we would have even more oil. The real problem started years ago when we started telling the world how to live, while we were here playing footsey in a restroom and chasing evil out from under the dusty bibles.
salebored
11:13:02 AM
12/04/07

We should have stayed out of Europe in WWII too? My point is that to discuss Iraq in an intelligent and reasoned manner you have to talk about both Bushs' and Clinton's policies. (oh and to leave you out of the discussion since your contributions are usually gibberish)
hyway
11:19:16 AM
12/04/07

The only thing Sale said was that someone could post that a Republican president just nuked Iran and XL would respond with, "So, Clinton got a blowjob in the white house".
Nimblefoot
11:23:38 AM
12/04/07

OHHH nimble I have covered this before...but in your typical style you miss it...

President Clinton was charged for Committing Perjury...which he admitted to. he did falsify testimony in a case. And thereby prevented another American Citizen of getting a fair trial. He admitted, got a slap on the wrist...but the libbies never seem to worry about it. This is the position that has the ONLY oath in the U.S. Constitution.

Yeah yeah...Hsu it ain't so...(LOL) as a result of that liason we sent men and women in to Bosnia (never understood why but then it was only ONE YEAR)(LOL)
XL400236
11:27:46 AM
12/04/07

Okay, I'll bite (bad pun), are you saying his lie regarding Monical Lewinksy resulted in sending troops to Bosnia? Is that documented as to a direct cause and effect or is this some more labyrinthian hoohaw?
Nimblefoot
11:35:21 AM
12/04/07

nimble, sales common response whenever anyone mentions Clinton is to do what he did above as if to suggest that as the only democrat president in the last 25 years his policies had no impact on anything.
last edited: 12/04/07 12:11:19 PM
hyway
12:07:30 PM
12/04/07

We aren't living in Clinton times girls , when you learn that what's up right or rite now is what needs to be watched. Clinton and bush are both embarrassments to the history of this country and both are still doing it. The difference is ,3 years ago we elected the texan idiot for a secong term.
salebored
1:44:17 PM
12/04/07

See. Anyone get it? It's about the present, not the past (now I'm gonna have the TT historian on my ass:))
Nimblefoot
1:50:40 PM
12/04/07

if it was truly about the present then no one would be talking about WHY we went into Iraq. It would just be about what to do NOW that we are there.
Hyway
3:36:01 PM
12/04/07

when extra large can't think of anything intelligent to say, which, needless to say is often, he brings up Bill Clinton. Often times it has nothing to do with anything. Such is the case.
EarthNsky
3:54:30 PM
12/04/07

You're right, Hyway; my next post will be about Adam and Eve and how they screwed it all up:)
Nimblefoot
3:54:38 PM
12/04/07

literally and figuratively
EarthNsky
3:57:16 PM
12/04/07

nimble, ramblingrev already said that original sin was the cause of global warming, but he claims it was a joke.
Hyway
4:09:16 PM
12/04/07

"........And thereby prevented another American Citizen of getting a fair trial."

Who, pray tell, was that?

Before Bush started the war on Iraq there was no war there.

Bosnia was a mess that Clinton's predecessor might well have done something about but for a lack of oil.
MarkO
4:27:24 PM
12/04/07

Okay, then, my original sin was that my joke wasn't.
Nimblefoot
4:39:31 PM
12/04/07

so lets get this straight, There was no war in Iraq before Bush so its Bush #2's fault and there was no war in Bosnia before Clinton so it was Bush #1's fault.
Hyway
6:48:09 PM
12/04/07

I'll see what I can do to help.......

Before the March 2003 invasion Iraq was more of less at peace.
There were no-fly zones for some years after 1991 and weapons inspectors, but not a shooting war going on.

The civil war in Bosnia erupted some time in 1991 and was not the fault of any Bush.
Where the hell did you get an idea like that, HyWay?
Civil war in Bosnia was a result of long-simmering resentment and hate going back hundreds of years.
Intervention in Bosnia was needed to stop the shooting war and the massacres.
N.A.T.O. and the U.S. intervened and eventually got things under some semblance of control but not until after G.H.W. Bush had left office.
MarkO
7:17:26 PM
12/04/07

Aren't you always the person saying that we need to stop intervening in other countries affairs?
Hyway
7:51:02 PM
12/04/07

No war in Iraq, the tailhook put a stop to war and began an occupation.
UNCLIFF
9:17:06 PM
12/04/07

Before the March 2003 invasion Iraq was more of less at peace.

Let's all meditate on that statement for a while by MarkO.

mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

*cough*BS*cough*

mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Sarge
9:26:22 PM
12/04/07


fait accompli...... not.

Tilt
9:27:48 PM
12/04/07

Hey, did I tell you a guy down the street bought a used Rove Ranger?
Tilt
9:29:16 PM
12/04/07

And these guys are the ones who successfully pegged Kerry as a "flip-flopper"....
laqtis
10:11:40 PM
12/04/07

Great point Q.
salebored
6:59:11 AM
12/05/07

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