Hey Web-mistress!

“Can you please move the religious crap threads to fuego please? some of us don't want to have to see it. That is where crud like that belongs anyway!

Thanks.
last edited: 6/30/07 3:31:04 PM”

“I agree...........”

“Yeah, cause those threads just pop right open of their own accord, don't they? LOL!

And here I thought Free was all open minded and tolerant and stuff.”

“I tolerate it but would rather not see it at all. If your're feelin froggy, there, mistress, go ahead and pop em over. If not, oh well...”

“Funny how this wasn't a problem as long as the "i hate christians" thread didn't have a counterpart.”

“SS, I think that should be fuego too. Anything with religion, is Fuego. BTW, I'm baking cookies tomorrow :). I hope you like blueberries.”

“Take your baking crap and go find a baking forum. Talk about hiking and backpacking here.

LOL!”

“You're jsut jeolous you arn't getting any ;)

besides, thats CHATTER, and this is chatter no?

fuego stays in fuego, chatter stays in chatter, and I do talk about backpacking :) unlike miss4400 who has yet to say even the word backpacking! :)”

“Spirit (apparently not in the open-minded, spiritual sense of spirit) Coyote -

Perhaps we should move the gardening threads and the cookie threads and the multitude of other threads in which you freely comment that have nothing to do with backpacking to Fuego as well.

If all of the non-backpacking threads were eliminated from Trail Talk, most of the regular posters would have pretty much nothing to say. The point is, Spirit - you don't get it both ways - no matter how popular a poster you are with the TT in-crowd, of which I am not a part. It's just disingenuous for you to regularly post your opinions about all sorts of non-hiking issues and then criticize someone else for doing the same - just because you don't like the particular topic. If you don't like a thread with the word "God" in the title, then don't read it.”

“"All political and religion threads should be placed under Fuego"

From the explanation on how to classify threads when posting a new thread. Where does it say anything about all non backpacking topics being fuego. Don't be obtuse strutta!”

“Well Tango -

Congratulations on entirely missing the point. On the other hand, perhaps I am just too inarticulate to express thoughts clearly, or not smart enough to know the difference. You can be the judge - a comfortable role no doubt.

I was not suggesting what is or is not Fuego - and I don't really care what people post about any topic. Most of the threads are just good-natured fun with the exception of a few mean-spirited comments here and there. You seem to believe there is some sort of bright line test between Fuego and anything else and I think a review of the threads here suggests otherwise.

I also find it a bit inconsistent that anything negative about God or some spiritual topic seems to fall within general backpacking, but anything positive is considered Fuego, so as not to offend the delicate sensibilities of people who feel like Spirit Coyote. That seems pretty ridiculous and disingenuous to me, but apparently makes sense to others. A lot of the posters, at least so I've noticed, don't seem to care much about the Fuego "rules" anyway except when a request for selective enforcement is convenient. That doesn't really bother me either, as I do much more reading than posting anyway - usually looking for threads about actual backpacking which for some reason are often a bit hard to find on thebackpacker.com.

I was not attempting to be obtuse by the way. I was just expressing my opinion which I thought was what the site was pretty much about. There must be some other rule of which I am not aware. I sure someone will be kind enough to point out the error of my ways - so I apologize in advance.”

“The i hate christians thread should be fuego. I have fuego unchecked because I don't choose to participate nor want to see all the inane bickering that goes on. But now since the thread is 'misclassified' according to the rules I am slapped in the face with it. I don't like it I haven't opened the thread but I still see the title. If you think I am thin skinned just think if the title was I hate black people. It is offensive, now granted I don't know what the thread really is about and where it is now or if it is a discussion and I don't care. So maybe it is positive.

I don't understand your statement with regard to the above:

I also find it a bit inconsistent that anything negative about God or some spiritual topic seems to fall within general backpacking, but anything positive is considered Fuego...

Now as to all the other threads that are classified correctly as chatter, it is just what it says, any subject that isn't (what I would say) controversial.

So maybe I totally misunderstood you when SC asked that some of the religious thread(s) be moved to fuego. I understood it to mean the i hate christians since that was the only religious thread I saw. The goodness I love God thread came long after SC's post. But even that one should be fuego under the rules. Religion does incite forceful language, point of views and strong beliefs hence fuego.

Did I misunderstand you? Or did you misunderstand?
last edited: 6/30/07 11:41:21 PM”

“Exactly tango.

Stutta,

Topics like religion and politics belong in Fuego. That's why it was created.

Chatter topics belong in chatter, that's why it was created. Gear belongs in gear, trips, trips. Etc. Got it yet strutta? That gives everyone the ability to turn off what they don't want to see via the check boxes at the top. I don't want to see I hate so and so's religion, I don't want to see My god is better then your god, etc unless I go into fuego intentionally. As for being a bright line test to what goes into Fuego, I think tango already posted the evidence..there is and I'll repeat it for you: "All political and religion threads should be placed under Fuego"”

“I wonder if Mattress reads these posts?”

“The religious bias in the country is suffocating. You can be religious as long as you aren't Christian.”
bacpac
4:48:52 AM
6/29/07

“That's the stupidest thing I've ever read on Trail Talk... and that's saying something.”
violin
6:30:33 AM
6/29/07

Not so stupid now, is it?”

“Tango and SC -

For the last time, I'm not now nor have I ever suggested that there are no "rules" about Fuego. And for the record, I agree with both of you that religion/politics and other topics belong there, not here. I could care less what any of you think about religion and/or politics.

Why there is even a Fuego category at all on this website escapes me entirely. Some people apparently like it, but like Tango, I never jump into the Fuego category and probably never will. I enjoy discussing issues like theology but I don't need to come here do that - especially not to discuss issues in an on-line forum where some folks will just argue for the sake of argument without any sincerity of belief. (I think they are called "trolls"?) The only reason I log on to this site is to read about (and occasionally offer my opinion), or ask a question about gear, or a particular trail. TT posters have been very helpful to me in both areas.

Yes SC, I do "get it." With all due respect, do you really disagree with my observation, that based upon a review of threads on Trail Talk, some posters don't seem to feel particularly constrained to follow the Fuego rules?

Can we end this now please, and just go hiking or something?”

“gardening and cookes: chatter!

politics and god: fuego!

any other stupid questions?”

“Strutta, your post was clear to me. I think this is the first time I've ever seen you post.

And furthermore, many of the regulars, or "in-crowd", have beaten almost every backpacking subject to death, twice. If we were limited to discussing only backpacking here it would have become pretty boring about six years ago. Do a search on trekking poles and see how many threads pop up. I bet there are at least 12. So, it's not that we don't have any interest in backpacking, or don't care about it (for the most part), it's just that many of us have our gear, don't replace it every time some new, 1/2 ounce lighter version comes out and don't feel like discussing the wonderfulness of sil nylon anymore.
At least that's how I feel about it.

So, what kind of bird hunting do you do? I've always wanted to bird hunt. A dream of ours is to buy some acreage in retirement and set up a few acres for birds. It's hard to find public land that's not forest to hunt here.
last edited: 7/01/07 8:24:02 AM”

“"mattress". LOL!

Hey mattress - can we get a keyword search function? Thanks.”

“NO religion in backpacking....I BEG TO DIFFER... I can quickly recall a number of times when I woke up early one morning (okay it was in GOD'S COUNTRY COLORADO) and watched the SUN rise.

Or I have had those moments of pure joy when a certain agreeable vision has been hiking in front of me...(and they say I don't appreciate the woman's movement).

And if you want to argue that if you believe in heaven you must believe in hell....The corollary to that would be experienceing PURE hell which would be a hiking partner in a tent during a driving downpour who had 'digestion issues".”

“Points well taken Sassafras about topics. I agree with XL also about seeing God in creation (oops - Fuego - mea culpa) - it's one of the joys of backpacking for me as well.

Anyway to answer the question, I like to hunt ruffed grouse in the mountains and bobwhite quail, woodcock, etc. in the flatlands I am between bird dogs at the moment so I haven't been hunting as much.

I am packing the truck now for a week in the poconos in PA - loading up with my backpack, flyrods and guitars - to use at different times of course. I'm not hiking most of the time (obviously) although I hope for a couple of nights in the tent. It should be a pretty fun week. Talk to you all later.”

“It's quite diffrent to mention in a trip report or a topic about backpacking that you feel closer to god----that I can understand but to come on the board and start a discussion on why the bible is right and your religion is wrong etc (thats called bible thunping if you didn't know) belongs stricly in Feugo. Further this new "troll?" never even bothered to say "hello, I like backpacking" and hasnt mentiond backpacking at all and just decided to start an argument about god. If you don't see why that should be in fuego, then you have blinders on.
last edited: 7/01/07 11:15:49 AM”

“nm
last edited: 7/01/07 11:18:16 AM”

“Religion and politics=fuego, IMHO...

strutta, have you checked out Practical Backpacking?
http://www.practicalbackpacking.com/forums/index.php

You might find it interesting rather than our cookie chatter (me want COOKIE!)...we aren't going to change here...we like us as we are...”

“Y'all do realize this thread will come back to bite y'all on the a$$ next time y'all post Fuego in Chatter, Hee Hee.”

“Mata, there is room for only one Cookie Ho on TT, and I am it. ;-)”

“I think Spirit should grow a pair and learn to be strong enough not to open threads that are clearly defined by their title.

Dirty hippy...

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“Nigal, who said she opened the thread?

As I stated, I don't like to see the thread i hate christians and since it is not properly classified as fuego I HAVE to see it. And honestly I'd rather not see it.”

“How about some sort of Purgatory for trolls?”

“Yakateeyak!Wakwakadaxx!dirty hippy!kawaxgadax!”

““Nigal, who said she opened the thread?

She posted to the thread and told missi to go find another forum.”

“Cool Strutta. We have a german shorthair pointer but she has a hard mouth. She points at her toys, squirrels in the yard, our rabbits, and has helped us track a deer, but we didn't have the heart to break her of her hard mouthyness as a pup and she is now nine.”

“She posted to the thread and told missi to go find another forum.

I hear there are sites specifically for 2nd amendment absolutists, also.   < G >

...... Pro and Con.


Political theads all turn fuego whether they start out that way or not (and isn't it amazing how politics worms its way into nearly everything)... Religious threads tend to go fuego.... Guns, usually... Dogs on the trail, not so much.

I think we don't cuss about horses nearly enough.   ; - )

”

“time for a little 'horsin around'?”

“As I stated, I don't like to see the thread i hate christians and since it is not properly classified as fuego I HAVE to see it. And honestly I'd rather not see it.”
Tango
9:39:44 PM
7/01/07

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“Thanks for the heads up Nigal, I didn't know that.

Hey smarty pants bearmagnet!”

“Hey Tango! How you doin'?”

“Who is this in-crowd I keep hearing about? And how do I become a part of it?”

“WOW...Bear, just seeing the title bothers you? I mean if I am interested I click a thread, if I am not interested...I just hit BACK and forget aboutit...but you are telling me just seeing the words bothers you?”

“WOW...Bear, just seeing the title bothers you? I mean if I am interested I click a thread, if I am not interested...I just hit BACK and forget aboutit...but you are telling me just seeing the words bothers you?”
XL400236
1:56:32 PM
7/02/07

It's a quote xl. Complete with citation. The whiteout is my response. Try to keep up.
last edited: 7/02/07 1:03:17 PM”

“Stickstonebonehurtme.”

“I think Spirit should grow a pair and learn to be strong enough not to open threads that are clearly defined by their title.

Dirty hippy...

”
Nigal
7:31:45 PM
7/01/07

oh please Nigal, you forget of whom you speak. Surely you know that Spirit and XL consider it their life mission to comment on every thread known to exist in the free world!”

“FUEGO! FUEGO!”

“As opposed to Roam who just comments on every 2 out of 3 threads....(LOL)”

“Is Nigel channelling what Bacpac used to call Mel?”

“Hey Tango! How you doin'?”
bearmagnet
8:50:41 AM
7/02/07

Did you see my thread, I had a bag night my first in 2ish years! Working my butt off at my campground. Making a lot of improvements and changes. Thanks for asking.

XL- It's me that doesn't like to see the thread title. (Go check out the sicko thread several examples that you demanded are there now please comment.)”