Mutt's infallibility

“How ironic and sad Nigal. Your own post proves my point. You know all the places and words. You've got a Rebbe to follow. You've memorized your seven Noah rules. Won't those Israelis cut you some slack?

In a nutshell:
It's neither sad nor ironic, it doesn't prove your point, I do not know all the places or words, I have no Rebbe but yes, I do know the Seven Laws of Noah. So far you're only 1 for 4.

It must make you feel terrible to have it all down pat and still be a goy.

Not in the least. I was born a Gentile and I am overjoyed with my lot in life and very thankful for it. Should I show ingratitude toward my Creator for what He made me? Were I meant to be a Jew I would have been born a Jew or the conditions would come about that I may convert according to the laws of Torah. I can do more to light the world as a Noahide than I could as a Jew.


Such is life when you're dealing with culture that by it's very nature is racist and exclusive.

You show here that you have no earthly idea concerning Judaism or the laws of Torah. But again, thank you for showing it's not about Zionism and it's just about the Jews.”

“Sol - I've got no interest in competitive victimage. Who would judge and score points.

You miss key distinctions in collaboration. The Zionists wanted the Nazis to send jews to Palestine. The mufti wanted jews killed, wherever they were.

I'm not interested in arguing that one side are the good guys and the other are the bad guys. There are blood thirsty a-holes aplenty on both sides and have been forever. I, however, would much rather live in Israel than in most Moslem countries. I like to be able to say what I believe and don't believe about religion, politics, etc. without feeling like I am asking to be killed.

Tell me honestly, where in the Middle East would Pat Roberston be able to speak his mind, publish, organize a political party, worship and argue for his faith and beliefs?”

“Hey, I'm sorry I had you pegged wrong. The last time we discussed you having the ability to join the US military to fight "terrorism" (the new age rules and all that) you said you wouldn't join but would be happy to go to Israel and work in the Israeli Red "Cross". And your knowlege of all those Yiddish terms and Israel towns! Oy Vie you slepper you! Plus, some of those adjectives you use to describe Palestinians made it sound like you spend a lot of time over on the Meir Kahane sites. Who would have thought you were a regular Christian American kinda guy?

Now as far as you quoting the line about culture etc. You're jumping the gun bro. I'm not talking about Torah Judaism. I'm talking about Israeli culture. Big difference but I do understand that you might not know that.

pedXing
I'll deal with your post tonight. Just don't slink off like you did when we got down to nitty-gritty on the 2nd Amendment several months ago.
last edited: 7/26/07 11:35:36 AM”

“slink off? LOL

I'll try to check back here.”

“SH....lovely...but totally inaccurate.”

“I was inaccurate. You'd have to under-go intensive training to work your way up to idiot level.”

“Damn Sol, it's just one circle after another with you dude.

”

“Hey the problem ain't with the dog! It's the f--king tail that keeps trying to slip away!”

“The constant redirection is dizzying.”

““I was inaccurate. You'd have to under-go intensive training to work your way up to idiot level.”
solitary hiker


And I for one am SO PROUD you made it.”

“where'd my babe go?”

“You accuse me of going around in circles? Well if an outside observer were to read all of the posts in this thread he might go away thinking that you guys are equally or more guilty of going around in circles than I am. But that is neither here nor there and not worth our time. Why don’t we all step back and count to ten figuratively. Clear the air so to speak. I’ll promise to quit badgering XL and Nigal. I would also request that you guys tone down the name-calling rhetoric. Bearmagnet should continue to post the photos because we all can agree that beautiful women are pleasant to look at. I might also posit that all women are beautiful in that they are the primary civilizing influence on man that prevents him from destroying himself. Agreed?”

“I have to agree...I think that a nation or a people's acceptablity have to do with the relative HOTNESS of their women....I am thinking if the Moslems got a little more liberal in what their women can show...we might be able to be more acceptable to them. (LOL)”

“Checking back yet again Sol, as promised. You never did get back to my post, as promised, but you start a new thread accusing me of slinking off.

pedXing
I'll deal with your post tonight. Just don't slink off like you did when we got down to nitty-gritty on the 2nd Amendment several months ago.
last edited: 7/26/07 12:35:36 PM”
solitary hiker
12:32:17 PM
7/26/07
last edited: 7/28/07 12:07:40 PM”

“Damn tricky Jew you! Always with the slinking off and around. LOL!”

“I loved a charachterization of the Nationalisim following 9/11 and its comparison to the NAZIS in 1930's. It was so totally devoid of historical or logical accuracy.

The Nazis created Nationalisim by attacking groups who had NEVER done anything to damage the nation. Shopkeepers, store owners and people who just were going about their lives were identified as the CAUSE of the breakdown of the German government. They were charachterized as destroying the nation with NO physical evidence.

Today in the West Bank and parts of the Arab and ANTI Isreal world hebrew people and Isrealis in particular are shown in Cartoons and related Children's studies in the same light. Why do I trust the Isreali side of the story...becuase I have seen both sides. I have friends on BOTH SIDES. The Arab view is that they MUST DESTROY Isreal because the JEWS are bad. Then they go into some of the most hilarious examples WHY. Much like the conspiracy nuts of the 30s and to today they have no real evidence. The media helps with the faked "ambulance calls" in Lebanon while totally ignoring the attacks in Isreal.

So I guess it comes down to veracity. Guess who has the most?”

“And yet you supported our war in Iraq....

there is a word for this, but I just cant seem to understand what a hippo has to do with it..”

“Lumber...4 UN charter decisions that allowed us to take action for violations of the cease fire, the fact that the previous administration had made comment after comment about the danger of the Saddam Government. And I think the most damning evidence is the fact that they were attempting to obtain Yellow Cake (um remember Joe Wilson did admit he lied when he said that (its in his book)). It was a very real threat.

I have likened it to the retaking of the Rhineland in 1936. Tell me if you had been the European powers in 1936...knowing now what you know...would you have intervened?”

“You've been called on that "Joe Wilson admitted that he lied in his book" BS before and persist in re-posting it. Find any documentation yet?

Talk about slinking off.


You understand how the Nazi's successfully demonized the Jews but do the same thing to "libbies" each and every day.”

“The persecuted liberals.

That is not a stretch. It is a stretch, twist, yank and reversal of the truth.”

“XL I didnt say anything about the UN support for the war, I said YOU supported it....PERSONALLY

Are you really just a blind follower? a sheeple? Whats next, will you also be a victim when you finally realise how wrong you are?

Wait I think I know what the problem is. You allow different standards depending on which set gives you the most benefit. That makes it bad for the nazi's, good for the US and ok for the PLO? I guess it was also ok for the CIA to aid Contra drug deals and funnel arms to the mid-east? Do you also approve of our usage of chemical weapons in Iraq? Strange but your value system seems almost liberal and based on FEEEEELings...


BTW it was our failure during the gulf war to finish the job inspite of the UN and our failure to support the Iraqi uprising that left saddam in power. Inspite of all the claims I have yet to see any evidence that might suggest that Iraq posed any real danger to the US. Wasnt the results of the gulf war proof enough that Iraq was impotent?

BAAAAAH!”

“The Plame affair seems to overshadow the fact that Saddam did get yellow cake uranium from Niger.”

“You can order uranium on the net , whats your point?”

“Order me a couple of pounds. Put it in a baggy and ship it to yourself.”

“its ups shipping, ya really want a pound?”

“Two pounds, and don't forget to add your return address.”

“http://www.unitednuclear.com/bulk.htm

Its easier just to post one of the urls... LOL”

“Nigal gave yellow cake to Sadaam? How nice of him.”

“From the Cost of Bush's War thread


[from cut and past article]These assume a conflict lasting 30 to 60 days, involving 125,000 to 250,000 U.S. troops facing light opposition and no chemical or biological weapons.

solitary hiker
11:42:15 AM
9/24/02


“ WRONG
The figures seem a little high. 125K - 250K soldiers!?! Try around 70K max.
Mutt
12:29:54 PM
9/24/02

I'm not Mutt bashing here, but did notice this on the "Cost of Bush's Folly" thread. I've been wrong, too. For one thing, I thought the US would find some usable and effective WMD's in Iraq.
last edited: 9/09/07 6:22:02 PM”

“Ped just a quick question....HOW BIG do you think a cache of say a good bio or chem weapon would be?

I am talking enough to say kill a couple hundred thousand or a half million people, not the stock piles like in Anniston ALA.

I think I heard somewhere that a good sized SUIT case of material would pretty much render Washington or NY uninhabitable in a matter of hours.

So we have seen photos of Mig Fighters that were buried in the sand right next to Military Bases we did not find until storms blew the sand off them. Is it conceiveable that there is still somewhere they could be?

I am not arguing about the fact about whether there were or weren't. There is every indication his people were eliminating them but TELLING Saddam they had them. The reality is there were frequent and continual violations of the peace treaty, if he thought he had them (whether they actually existed) that is one of the violations that allowed any country to take military action (UN RESOLUTIONS by the way).”

“He had them suckers. Believe what you will.”

“Bush and the bible has some chance of being accurate, but....
last edited: 9/10/07 6:09:31 AM”

“Is there a little something still out there that was in very usable condition when we went in? Its possible, it wouldn't be hard to hide. The manufacture or long term preservation of that stuff might be possible to cover-up entirely.

I dealt with this stuff multiple times (see "which is it"?). Either we were BSing when we said we knew all this stuff about what he had and where and how it was moving, or we totally blew it when we went in - because now it has no clear owner and no clear return address.”

“Yes..............the weapons are north, nay, south, nay east...........and west of Bagdad.”

“Is it possible we took some in to plant and it got ripped like all that money?”

“..... and it was all trucked to Syria in plain view of Keyhole and Lacrosse satellites!

_{(yeah, right.)}



"We Own the Night"

                motto of the NRO”

“Tilt.........Tilt.............BLAM!!!

You just don't understand selective reality.

Poor boy...................
Tilt, Tilt, Tilt, Tilt, Tilt, Tilt, etc”

“Yeah, I was wrong about that, pedXing. I was also wrong about the Iraqis easily taking to freedom. Apparently the Religious Idiots won't allow that. (Notice it's almost always religious idiots causing the world's problems).”

“This thread just kills me every time I see it.

Phaedrus really outdid himself --- Instant Classic.”

“Yeah, we need a "tiltypoo's infallibility" thread! LOL”

“Did somebody step on a duck?”

“Instant Classic!!!!”