New York: One Night of Fire

“Anyone of you New Yorkers involved in any of their events or know about it? Opinions?

http://www.thedanger.com/
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“Bunch of half nekkid heathens!

I signed up.”

“Bunch of whacked out people in crazy costumes having a good time? That can't be legal.”

“Read something about it in Time Out New York. I subscribe to that mag. But, didn't follow up on it and nothing really emerged in the local papers covering it. Just another day in the Naked City!!! :)”

“...with a Naked Lunch about 12:15?”

“With the humidity peaking as it is, that sounds pretty good, Tilt. Although, I don't want to scare half of Manhattan by trotting my naked ass done the street...”

“No comment ---- LMAO”

“LOL...spontaneous gatherings....”

“My son went back to New YOrk for the weekend. Talked about people in New York knowing how to have a good time and mentioned Coney Island. When I saw the article - I put the pieces together.”

“ped - I never asked how your son liked Burning Man. When we met back in the late summer he was about to leave for the big event.”

“My step-son had a blast at Burning Man. All the gear I lent him came back with a deep infusion of dust and sand, but I got it clean.

I haven't heard him say anything about going this year - but he's got a full time job for the summer, so he can definitely afford to go again.”

“Anarchists advocating crime.”

“bacpac hates anyone who is different”

“It's interesting that the police are working with this group, but being very obstructionist to Critical Mass, a grass roots bicycle activist movement. It may be that this once a year event is seen differently than Critical Mass' regular schedule of events.”

“Here's the Village Voice Article with link to a slide show.”

“I don't hate people who are different.

I think people who conspire to commit crime are scum.”

“so bacpac, that wouldn't apply to Vick then?


ped - thanks for the update. Burning Man is probably a pretty cool thing to attend.”

“I have no sympathy for Vick. It was the hysteria of the situation that I found ironic.”

“I think people who conspire to commit crime are scum

and what crime are they conspiring to commit?”

“I gotta question..say these people get this theoretically spontaneous gathering going...they dodge Police control and somewhere in the crowd ACHMED MOHUMPAGOAT sets off a nail bomb. Now is the city (and the taxpayers)responsible for their injuries...I mean is the Government there responsible for some protection?

See this is my problem with most of these gatherings that dodge required paperwork or hiring police to cover the route. If the protestors get hurt...they immediatly scream "WHERE ARE THE COPS!!!"

Typical liberal think in my opinon...rights WITHOUT responsibility. ”

“typical xl post. full of strawmen and baseless conjecture
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“when i looked at the website earlier, it was encouraging cooperation with the police, and mentioned that they had good relationships with them last year, and that it was about celebration, not lawlessness”

“Typical puritan think.....

Their greatest fear is that someone, somewhere might be having fun.

Fear must be maintained or the empire is doomed.”

“hippies are the new terrorists”

“Never said that Marky Mark,. in fact I have no problem with celebrations (a right of the Consitution) my thing is who is responsible if something goes wrong?

I have seen "spontaneous keggers" go bad quick. Then rather than having rescources on site...the existing government agencies scramble to help the idiots.”

“"......my thing is who is responsible if something goes wrong?"

Your fear is who......

Fear-mongering at it's finest.

You obviously want the government in on our lives.”

“i love how people like xl and bacpac rail about "mommy govt" intruding in our lives, but as soon as a bunch of hippies want to get together and party, its all "theyre scum because they didnt do their paperwork or ask mommy policeman if it was ok"
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“ooops - here is the article:

http://www.villagevoice.com/blogs/runninscared/archives/2007/07/a_night_of_fire.php#more”

“those evil, skinny-dipping non-permit getting bastards are the scourge of the 21st century.

real criminal anarchists, there, mr bacpac. huh. imagine that. a bunch of hippie libbies and the police got along swimmingly, despite the revelry. dont be such a narc”

“XL - The nail bomb hypothetical makes no sense to me. There are bigger crowds in New York in shopping areas.

You've got a point though. When I organize a public gathering on public property I have to get a permit and I have to get insurance and pay a fee for someone to be at the site.

I think we need a little exuberant anarchic creative expression from time to time. It has some costs and risks, but it shakes things up a bit. I'm sure the city is wary of making a precedent, but it would be great if they could cut a deal whereby the organizers would be bonded and share the cost of some of the risk.

In the end, this kind of thing is probably good for tourism and the economy and that generates the kind of tax dollars that help pay for the services involved.

When I was 18, I would have had a blast being involved in something like that. While embarrassed about the recklessness, it would make for some fond memories.

Maybe the city got it right: tolerance, amusement, but not approval.
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